September 10, 20195 yr Such a sooty, dirty, productive city.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 11, 20195 yr Tinnerman Steel Range Co. building on Fulton Road in Ohio City Interesting article in Cleveland.com about Let’s draw innovation inspiration from when Ohio engineers ran their own Silicon Valley: By Keith Aksel SOURCE: https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwj0ofi0xcnkAhURa1AKHT-VDZIQzPwBCAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cleveland.com%2Fopinion%2F2019%2F09%2Flets-draw-innovation-inspiration-from-when-ohio-engineers-ran-their-own-silicon-valley-keith-aksel.html&psig=AOvVaw2VIMJZwYIysUIiKsDe2OvV&ust=1568317852672874
September 12, 20195 yr campbell block ne corner detroit/w25th 1892-1975 https://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/749
September 12, 20195 yr leo's casino euclid/e75th 1963-1972 https://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/5
September 12, 20195 yr the 'ol 1986 united way balloonfest fiasco: https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/562556/cleveland-balloonfest/ http://www.rojakdaily.com/news/article/3451/thirty-years-ago-this-balloon-tragedy-threw-an-entire-city-into-total-chaos
September 17, 20195 yr Intersection of Detroit and Lake avenues in the 1930s (the last one is from 1969).... Edited September 17, 20195 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 19, 20195 yr for all the youngsters, this is a page of Cleveland TV listings from nearly fifty years ago: Dec. 15, 1970-- http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
September 19, 20195 yr 2 hours ago, eastvillagedon said: for all the youngsters, this is a page of Cleveland TV listings from nearly fifty years ago: Dec. 15, 1970-- Dark Shadows was my show!
September 20, 20195 yr That's all of the TV shows I watched when I was a kid, including the daytime shows I watched when I was home sick from school. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 20, 20195 yr On 9/17/2019 at 6:02 PM, KJP said: Intersection of Detroit and Lake avenues in the 1930s (the last one is from 1969).... That curved Tudor-esque bldg reminds me of the Cedar-Fairmount intersection in the Heights.....what a loss☹️
September 24, 20195 yr Someone just sent me this photo, guessing it was 1935. Great shot. Check out Muny stadium, the Warehouse District, future Burke Airport, the road from W9 and Huron down to the Flats is there, as is the Eagle Ramp, Lakeside east of E9 is empty---the Cleveland Press would later be built there (North Point is there now), the docks at the port are less defined than they are today, Scranton Peninsula looks pretty busy, lots of other little details.
September 24, 20195 yr Erie railroad,circa1948.leaving eastbound from literary st. Yard. Cuyahoga river bascule bridge the train is traveling over. Central furnaces are to the right of the pic. West 3rd st. Lift bridge is above the hopper car to the right. Edited September 24, 20195 yr by bigbrian24
September 24, 20195 yr On 9/19/2019 at 5:06 PM, eastvillagedon said: for all the youngsters, this is a page of Cleveland TV listings from nearly fifty years ago: Dec. 15, 1970-- This was (is) my birthday. I turned four on this day and I certain my mom had me firmly placed in front of the baby sitter to watch all the glorious morning shows. As I'm sure most kids did, I always waited for Miss Sally to say my name at the end (not Musky).
September 24, 20195 yr I was only three so I was watching Romper Room, Barnaby, Sesame Street and, my favorite, Mister Rogers (I loved the trolley!). "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 26, 20195 yr I just noticed there is a movie called, "want to live forever" showing. Now I have to find that movie! I bet it's a hot mess.
September 29, 20195 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 30, 20195 yr 1 hour ago, KJP said: My Dad would wear his coat like that. Just to go from the house to the car. ahhhh.... 70s/80s fashions.
October 3, 20195 yr those were the days when you would pick out your rad duds at alberts and the ohio city haberdashery and then hurry home to catch 5:
October 3, 20195 yr hate to link this -- grit your teeth before viewing! https://kaidbenfieldarchive.com/20110914-how-the-hell-did-we-let-this-happen-cleveland-then-and.html
October 3, 20195 yr ^ aside from the loss, what's interesting is every building downtown in that pic is completely filthy -- exactly i remember it as a kid. i find dirty buildings are kind of nostalgic now. ha.
October 3, 20195 yr Aside from the Terminal Tower and maybe the ATT Building, why did Cleveland not build many tall (Lets say 25+ stories) skyscrapers in the 20s/30s as did cities like Detroit and Pittsburgh? Was it due to our bedrock situation?
October 3, 20195 yr never built cleveland transit is a pretty cool time capsule! https://www.ideastream.org/news/hyperloop-is-up-against-a-history-of-never-built-cleveland-transit-projects 1955 subway system renders 1972 jet port 1977 airport island 1976 people mover
October 3, 20195 yr Regarding the Jetport/Airrort Island, PopularMechanics recently had an article on the proposal that had some interesting schematics/designs. That Time NASA Wanted to Build a Floating Airport on Lake Erie Link: https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/airlines/a28576498/nasa-jetport-lake-erie/
October 4, 20195 yr 18 hours ago, mrclifton88 said: Aside from the Terminal Tower and maybe the ATT Building, why did Cleveland not build many tall (Lets say 25+ stories) skyscrapers in the 20s/30s as did cities like Detroit and Pittsburgh? Was it due to our bedrock situation? Could be. It did build a few 200-foot-plus-tall buildings however: Terminal Tower -- 50 Public Square -- 1930 -- 52 Floors Ohio Bell -- 750 Huron -- 1927 -- 24 Floors Union Trust -- 925 Euclid -- 1924 -- 22 Floors Standard -- 1370 Ontario -- 1925 -- 20 Floors Keith -- 1621 Euclid -- 1922 -- 22 Floors Superior -- 815 Superior -- 1922 -- 20 Floors Fenn -- 1983 E. 24th -- 1930 -- 21 Floors Landmark -- 101 W. Prospect -- 1930 -- 18 Floors Parkview -- 1802 E. 13th -- 1926 -- 18 Floors Hanna -- 1422 Euclid -- 1921 -- 16 Floors Federal Reserve Bank -- 1445 E. 6th -- 1924 -- 12 floors "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 4, 20195 yr too soon? --- 2013 skylift 1977 people mover -- final proposal Historical notes: In the 1970s, monorails and automatic people movers - the kind you see at airports - were all the rage, and the federal government was interested in using them for downtown transportation. Cleveland would be an ideal test case, because the main downtown subway station at Public Square is just too far from most of downtown to be convenient for commuters. (There were plans in the 1950s to fix this by building a subway loop through downtown, but these plans were sabotaged by the very pro-automobile County Engineer.) Twenty years after this fiasco, Cleveland won a federal grant worth $41 million to design and build a downtown monorail system to circulate passengers around downtown. If you look at the map, you'll see two obvious problems that even Lyle Lanley's salesmanship couldn't fix. First, the planned system only would run in one direction, and second, the stations are so close together that in some cases it's faster to walk. For these reasons, Mayor Dennis Kucinich killed the project, and the money went to Detroit instead. This ended up being a good idea- the Detroit People Mover ended up being a white elephant. (Miami's Metromover system ended up being a better deal, in that it did a very good job focusing development around downtown, but it also cost much more because it runs in both directions.) more:
October 4, 20195 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 6, 20195 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 7, 20195 yr On 10/4/2019 at 12:01 PM, mrnyc said: too soon? --- 2013 skylift 1977 people mover -- final proposal Historical notes: In the 1970s, monorails and automatic people movers - the kind you see at airports - were all the rage, and the federal government was interested in using them for downtown transportation. Cleveland would be an ideal test case, because the main downtown subway station at Public Square is just too far from most of downtown to be convenient for commuters. (There were plans in the 1950s to fix this by building a subway loop through downtown, but these plans were sabotaged by the very pro-automobile County Engineer.) Twenty years after this fiasco, Cleveland won a federal grant worth $41 million to design and build a downtown monorail system to circulate passengers around downtown. If you look at the map, you'll see two obvious problems that even Lyle Lanley's salesmanship couldn't fix. First, the planned system only would run in one direction, and second, the stations are so close together that in some cases it's faster to walk. For these reasons, Mayor Dennis Kucinich killed the project, and the money went to Detroit instead. This ended up being a good idea- the Detroit People Mover ended up being a white elephant. (Miami's Metromover system ended up being a better deal, in that it did a very good job focusing development around downtown, but it also cost much more because it runs in both directions.) more:
October 12, 20195 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 12, 20195 yr I like this one. It's proof that converting banks to more imaginative uses is nothing new. Based on the width of the tie, I'd say 1940s? https://twitter.com/Cleve_Memory Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
October 12, 20195 yr ^ 40s is a good guess. Possibly even late 30s judging by that jukebox (not that the term had been coined yet) and the signage font. My hovercraft is full of eels
October 13, 20195 yr Or the 1932 Ford parked to the right of the bank/bar. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 13, 20195 yr I didn't know this... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 13, 20195 yr A fascinating photo worthy of detailed study... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 16, 20195 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 16, 20195 yr Big four lift bridge in the down position. Carter rd. Lift bridge to the left. Scranton peninsula across the river. Upson nut & bolt division of republic steel is the giant steel building in the distance. Circa late 60s Edited October 16, 20195 yr by bigbrian24
October 16, 20195 yr Nickel plate railroad coal towers at e. 75th st. Next to the rapid transit tracks out of the pic to the left. Circa 50s. They were torn down in the 1980s. Steam engine is a 2-8-4 Berkshire locomotive. One of the class of these engines was the last built new steam locomotive in the U.S in 1949 by the Lima locomotive works. In Lima ,Ohio
October 16, 20195 yr Erie Lackawanna E55th st station early 1970s. No idea when it was torn down. Building in the back was an oil products company. None of this remains.
October 16, 20195 yr Pennsylvania railroad station at E 55th and Euclid ave. Circa early 50s. It was getting much needed outside repairs and remodeling on the inside in this pic. Warner and Swasey factory to the right background.
October 16, 20195 yr Erie Lackawanna commuter train to Youngstown is going eastbound past E34th rapid station. Circa 1969. First pic is the train coming off the Cleveland union terminal tracks. On to its own tracks which made a connection to its own yard and station at E55th. Second pic is heading past 34th station eastbound under I-77. Eventually veering off to right onto the mahoning secondary. Out of view in the distance would become the rapids E55th storage yard.
October 16, 20195 yr @bigbrian24 is my new favorite poster!! Great pics!! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 16, 20195 yr Who remembers this Chesapeake & Ohio steam engine that used to sit at brookside park by the zoo. It was eventually removed in the early 80s because of vandalism. To the Chessie system railroad née B&O rr. Clark ave. yard and sat for awhile till the early 90s. When the Illinois railway museum acquired and removed it. Edited October 16, 20195 yr by bigbrian24
October 16, 20195 yr I have a photo somewhere of the Cuyahoga Valley Line train behind #4070 boarding passengers at that park, with the C&O locomotive to the left. Where you shot that picture is where they used to board CVL in the mid-1970s. I rode it in the summer of 1976. I see a fence around the C&O loco in your photo, but I remember climbing on it without a fence being there. Perhaps the fence was added later? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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