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54 minutes ago, KJP said:

The spotlight provided navigation for airships that were seen as the future of air travel in the 1920s...Its interior looks like a 1920s railroad station waiting room.

 

 

I've tried to scour google and local historical sites and haven't really been able to find any photos of the waiting room area. I feel like I saw something a long while ago, but have no idea where I found it-  do you have anything on your end?

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1 hour ago, KJP said:

The spotlight provided navigation for airships that were seen as the future of air travel in the 1920s. This building was built with an airship station on the roof & later became part of the Sammy's restaurant chain. Its interior looks like a 1920s railroad station waiting room.

 

 

From the story:

 

"There was a legend that the roof was also designed for a dirigible docking station, but the rooftop plans prepared by Graham, Anderson, Probst and White show no such station planned for the building, and no contemporary news articles or other primary sources have been discovered that prove the existence of, or plans for, either the station itself or any accessory buildings on the rooftop."

3 hours ago, GISguy said:

 

I've tried to scour google and local historical sites and haven't really been able to find any photos of the waiting room area. I feel like I saw something a long while ago, but have no idea where I found it-  do you have anything on your end?

 

I believe the space has been closed for quite some time but I found this photo from Socially Artistic Wedding Planner's Facebook page. Always had a soft spot for this place; back in 2002 when they still served lunch, I signed my book deal with Arcadia Publishing right about where that round table on the far left is.

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I posted about the availability of historical ODOT aerial imagery in the 'Just Plain Interesting Photo Finds..." topic, here's an example (from 1968 at 3650ft)

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That's a fantastic photo. So many details to inspect in that great image.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

15 minutes ago, KJP said:

That's a fantastic photo. So many details to inspect in that great image.

I reduced the size for putting it on here, the original is about 50% larger of a file size (and detail). I'm impressed at the quality of some of these photo programs they were flying at the time.

On 7/17/2018 at 8:17 AM, KJP said:

Perhaps at the time. My father didn't know her until the mid-1980s. She was also quite a bit younger than Shondor, by something like 30 or 40 years.

 

Rick Porrello's latest book is about Shondor.   He says it was her, not the Murray Hill people everyone thought, who hired the bombers that blew up Danny's place on Waterloo.

11 hours ago, E Rocc said:

 

Rick Porrello's latest book is about Shondor.   He says it was her, not the Murray Hill people everyone thought, who hired the bombers that blew up Danny's place on Waterloo.

 

Wait, Shondor's WIFE blew up Greene's apartment??

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

11 hours ago, KJP said:

 

Wait, Shondor's WIFE blew up Greene's apartment??

 

Ellie paid to have it done, according to Porrello.

 

I asked indirectly on his author page if this was new info, he says yes and thanks for not spoilering it on his page.

It's very difficult to stop the decline of existing neighborhoods when we are actively replacing them with new ones at the urban fringe and  the region is not growing.

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Clark Ave. and W41st st. August of 1953. Looking East.

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Saw this on Facebook.
 

Live chickens for sale in Little Italy on Mayfield Rd, 1928 

 

 

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the elysium

1907-1951

e107th & euclid

 

once the largest hockey arena in the world

 

home of the indians, falcons and barons

 

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this looks like it was a pretty decent joint to hang out in

 

haltnorth's garden

willson (e55th) and woodland

1870s

 

 

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Reminds me of Forest City Brewery's back yard.

^ it looks like they had heat lamps and stout style beer back then.

On 12/17/2019 at 10:28 AM, mrnyc said:

^ it looks like they had heat lamps and stout style beer back then.

those are oil burning lamps for light.

^ fue una broma papi

In one of the threads (which I can't find) somebody wanted to see the old Nicholson Terminal (E55th and the lake) when it still was a terminal.  Here's one courtesy of a school friend whose father ran the terminal in the 50's and 60s.

 

The New York News was operated by the Ontario Paper Company of Thorold, Ontario, and delivered newsprint to the Cleveland papers.  Later the Bowater paper boats used the terminal along with Nicholson's own car transports.

 

Here you go:

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Edited to remove "old" from the description of my friend.

Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

All that I can hear while looking at this picture is the opening of "Papa was a rolling stone" by the Temptations...

 

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Here's hope that parking craters in downtown Cleveland can be eliminated.....

 

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Looking west on Clifton Boulevard at the intersection of West 117th Street at the border of Lakewood in Cleveland in 1951. The streetcar was eliminated 3 years earlier but the overhead trolley bus wires....

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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1943 Night view, looking west from East 14th St. at Huron and Euclid. #Cleveland Source: @Cleveland_PL

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

On 12/17/2019 at 9:41 AM, mrnyc said:

this looks like it was a pretty decent joint to hang out in

 

haltnorth's garden

willson (e55th) and woodland

1870s

 

 

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Definitiely the type of place where you'd get stabbed after calling someone a "common dandy"

5 hours ago, KJP said:

1943 Night view, looking west from East 14th St. at Huron and Euclid. #Cleveland Source: @Cleveland_PL

 

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That looks like it was a pretty impressive building where the current US Bank Centre stands! 

broadway and e55th

 

 

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More of a collection of photos and archival media, but take a look at an application I put together for the county. This lists and shows places that MLK visited in and around the Cleveland area- it has a good collection of photos from his time here as well as some archival video of his speeches and the locations mapped out. It says it in the application, but if you have any media of any sort dealing with Dr. King's visits please get in touch and I'll try and get it in.

 

https://cuyahoga.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapSeries/index.html?appid=6522a0e8180b46adb88711b76e6024eb

Not a photo but these newspaper digests from the 1830s are wonderful to read. They highlight the era in which the new Ohio Canal was changing Cleveland and Northeast Ohio from a remote wilderness of natives and fur traders to an agrarian and mercantile society. And the lingering bad feelings toward the British in Canada was well evident....

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=BlFNAQAAMAAJ&lpg=PA22&ots=4GpZv88qLC&dq=silas belden house cleveland ohio&pg=PA28#v=onepage&q=silas belden house cleveland ohio&f=false

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Not sure if ever posted--I found when cyberslacking today on a Cleveland West High alumni site. 

 

Irish American Day parade 1959 at 95th/Madison.   Lots lost in that neighborhood!  

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I found this in an old box of family photos. This is, I believe, the opening of the second Fisher Bros. store (later Fisher Foods) at 2626-28 Lorain Ave in 1903. The dapper fellow on the right is my grandfather. The building still exists and is a dental office.

 

Edit: sorry for the poor quality - it's an Iphone photo of a photo. ☹️

Edit 2:  I got the date wrong; this is probably 1908.

 

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Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

Amazing history here of different parts of the flats with extensive history about the Haymarket District due to the author's ancestors having lived there. It and contains many photographs as well. Definitely worth reading....

 

https://sites.google.com/site/clevelandanditsneighborhoods/home/neighborhoods-in-the-flats

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

 

Love this downtown Cleveland photo from 1939.....

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Here's a high-resolution map of Cleveland in 1894 showing all of the streets before their "numbering" in the 1910s. You can download it in TIF or JPG formats or view it as a PNG....

 

https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:4m90f9194?fbclid=IwAR3cs3hzKFFZxEiTmA69hh2ItPmEuh-DgTnINUjULw3dJ0oPdiMFBg73RBo

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Streetcar on Public Square in 1953, less than 1 year before Cleveland's final streetcar run in January 1954. This was a railfan trip by the Cleveland Railroad Club.

 

Also, in the background is what would become the Jacobs/Weston lots and the future home of Sherwin-Williams HQ...

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^Wow... Just wow. Everything in that picture is in a landfill other than Rockefeller.

 

 ^ tbh, that's ok. the rock bldg must stay forever of course, but the low rise junk is fine to go. the streetcars are another story, ugh. 

 

 

On 1/18/2020 at 4:05 PM, GISguy said:

More of a collection of photos and archival media, but take a look at an application I put together for the county. This lists and shows places that MLK visited in and around the Cleveland area- it has a good collection of photos from his time here as well as some archival video of his speeches and the locations mapped out. It says it in the application, but if you have any media of any sort dealing with Dr. King's visits please get in touch and I'll try and get it in.

 

https://cuyahoga.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapSeries/index.html?appid=6522a0e8180b46adb88711b76e6024eb

 

 

 

very good work here. wow.

 

not sure if you are interested in the metro, but for lorain county i see he visited oberlin many times over the years:

 

https://www.morningjournal.com/news/lorain-county/oberlin-has-connection-to-martin-luther-king-jr/article_a4c44a64-142f-11e9-80b6-6b473852f4ac.html

15 hours ago, KJP said:

Streetcar on Public Square in 1953, less than 1 year before Cleveland's final streetcar run in January 1954. This was a railfan trip by the Cleveland Railroad Club.

 

Also, in the background is what would become the Jacobs/Weston lots and the future home of Sherwin-Williams HQ...

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A bit of good quality signage can really make a city look more vibrant. 

I love the colorized photos this guy does
 

 

^ colorized, tilt-shifted, historic pics?

 

wow, outstanding!

history -- the telephone game that was the cuyahoga river fire era and what was going on all around that:

 

 

PAST TENSE

How Many Times Does a River Have to Burn Before It Matters?

When Cleveland’s Cuyahoga caught fire, it was as much about urban blight as environmental crisis.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/22/climate/cleveland-fire-river-cuyahoga-1969.html

 

 

1968

 

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Cleveland's Hotel St. Regis and the British Royal Family -- the hotel is a study in the rapid and early decline of the East Side.

 

From the Plain Dealer:

 

The Hotel St. Regis was opened in 1905. In the heyday of Euclid Avenue as Millionaire’s Row, it was home to the several members of the highest echelons of Cleveland society, including William Rockefeller, co-founder of Standard Oil;   and Frank De Haas Robison, owner of the Cleveland Spiders baseball team and the builder of League Park and the Cleveland City Cable Railway Company.

 

When first opened, the seven-story luxury building had 20 large suites. Advertisements promised “Everything high grade; a perfect home for one who wants to avoid the cares of a large house.” Regis was said to be “the only fireproof apartment house in the city.” The imposing brick building featured an ornate white archway and lintel over the entrance, and balconies for each unit.

 

...The St. Regis had a far less fairytale ending. As Euclid Avenue declined and the moneyed class moved east to the Heights, so the Hotel St. Regis declined. In 1920, it became a budget hotel with efficiency units. Where there were once 20 large units, 124 apartments provided two and three rooms homes for a rent of $40 per month in 1924. In 1959, the Hotel St. Regis became a low-income retirement home, then later a nursing home. For decades, it sat empty and abandoned. The building was eventually demolished in the early 1990s to make way for The Shops at Church Square strip-mall.

 

MORE:

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2018/05/meghan_markles_surprising_clev.html

 

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Doing some detective work on a great old photo (turns out that's the Literary/University roads area of Tremont on the right, the Jones & Laughlin Steel mill at left and Standard Oil's first refinery just beyond that in the distance).....

 

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I spoke up and questioned the suggested location....

 

 

And this guy finds the right answer....

 

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

KJP said above , "Doing some detective work on a great old photo (turns out that's the Literary/University roads area of Tremont on the right, the Jones & Laughlin Steel mill at left and Standard Oil's first refinery just beyond that in the distance)....."

 

Los Angeles' inner-suburb El Segundo got its name from Standard Oil's second refinery.  Maybe Cleveland could give that area the name El Primero.  ?

Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

57 minutes ago, KJP said:

Doing some detective work on a great old photo (turns out that's the Literary/University roads area of Tremont on the right, the Jones & Laughlin Steel mill at left and Standard Oil's first refinery just beyond that in the distance).....

 

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I spoke up and questioned the suggested location....

 

 

And this guy finds the right answer....

 

 

Lol, I have a copy of that Sanborn map with the SW location and I was going to get up and find it before I scrolled to the bottom of your post and saw that it had already been posted. #CLEhistorynerd

Can you imagine how urban geeks reacted when they first saw this rendering in the 1920s? Remember that this was the tallest building in the world outside New York City....

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

3 hours ago, KJP said:

Can you imagine how urban geeks reacted when they first saw this rendering in the 1920s? Remember that this was the tallest building in the world outside New York City....

 

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And I'm sure they weren't trying to re-route trolleys and traffic off Public Square! ?

52 minutes ago, Cleburger said:

 

And I'm sure they weren't trying to re-route trolleys and traffic off Public Square! ?

And there were probably a few that were hoping for something taller?

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