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my favorite peabodys gig was my last show there. we had free tix to see hole at the agora, then after courtney did her schtick where her clothes came off we ran over to peabodys to see weezer and did what you would do there for a raucous first tour show like that, swing around from the ceiling plumbing lol.

 

the best memory tho was just standing around outside in the dead of winter watching people walk out of there. everybody looked like johnny storm with steam coming off them like a chimney. it was always quite a stunning sight to watch.

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6 hours ago, mrnyc said:

 

 

 

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Just to be clear these photos are from Peabody's Cafe which was in Cleveland Heights ?

 

My favorite Peabody's Down Under shows: 

 

Janes Addiction 

Primus 

Kid Rock (back before he went country to pander to the trailer parks) 

52 minutes ago, Cleburger said:

 

Just to be clear these photos are from Peabody's Cafe which was in Cleveland Heights ?

 

My favorite Peabody's Down Under shows: 

 

Janes Addiction 

Primus 

Kid Rock (back before he went country to pander to the trailer parks) 

Then later the Last Drop, epicenter of Cleveland’s raging ska scene lol

1 hour ago, Cleburger said:

 

Just to be clear these photos are from Peabody's Cafe which was in Cleveland Heights ?

 

My favorite Peabody's Down Under shows: 

 

Janes Addiction 

Primus 

Kid Rock (back before he went country to pander to the trailer parks) 

 

My fav Peabody's Shows were a mix of shoegazer, industrial and Britpop:

 

Elastica

Meat Beat Manifesto

Pale Saints

Die Warzau

18 hours ago, bumsquare said:

I saw Radiohead at Peabody’s!

 

Oh man... one of my favorite bands.  What was that like?  I would have loved to have been there!

16 hours ago, Cleburger said:

 

Just to be clear these photos are from Peabody's Cafe which was in Cleveland Heights ?

 

My favorite Peabody's Down Under shows: 

 

Janes Addiction 

Primus 

Kid Rock (back before he went country to pander to the trailer parks) 

 

 

ha yeah -- it kinda hard to find correct pix

 

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easily confusing lol!

 

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This is a photo of a painting by L. Alexander Rys showing the SS Judith M Pierson of the Soo River Line making up to what I think was the Republic West quay wall in the Flats.  Probably painted in the late 70s. I think the industrial Flats of the 30s-70s had a majesty of its own.

 

 

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Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

1 hour ago, Dougal said:

This is a photo of a painting by L. Alexander Rys showing the SS Judith M Pierson of the Soo River Line making up to what I think was the Republic West quay wall in the Flats.  Probably painted in the late 70s. I think the industrial Flats of the 30s-70s had a majesty of its own.

 

 

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What museum has the painting? 

1 hour ago, jeremyck01 said:


What museum has the painting? 

 

My museum?  It hangs in my back room.

Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

1 hour ago, Dougal said:

 

My museum?  It hangs in my back room.

 

The Dougalouvre?  😜

1 hour ago, Dougal said:

 

My museum?  It hangs in my back room.


Got it, lol. I thought you found a pic online of it hanging somewhere. 

I like photos like this which had just a hint of color added to it. Makes it feel much more real....

 

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We complain about our Lakefront but it actually used to be worse during Cleveland's peak years....

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^ It's like those gruesome old pictures of Pittsburgh. Looking good wasn't on the agenda.

Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Wonderful new article on and (old) pictures of Wade Park Manor (now Judson Manor) on the Cleveland Historical page.

 

https://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/932

 

By Jasmine Prezenkowski

"On September 15, 1921, a Martin Daly used a silver spade to break ground near East 107th Street signifying the start of construction on Wade Park Manor, a high-end residential hotel. The announcement of plans for the hotel were made a year earlier by Daly, George Schneider, and Edwin Henn. Projected to cost $4,000,000 and contain 150 suites and 500 rooms, the hotel, its promoters predicted, would be “the last word in family hotel construction, equipment and service.” "

 

(Note: more pictures posted with the article - check it out)

 

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When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

Moo

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

As a kid, I used to go roller skating with my parents at the Rollercade rink right next to the stockyards.  I still remember the distinctive smell.

  • 4 weeks later...

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

So many. So gone.

And the short building that was replaced by expanding the building on the left on today's ex-Jacobs Block off Public Square

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Never seen a photo of the fire damage before. I had no idea that the market had burned to the ground and heavily damaged a building across the street....

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 2 weeks later...

The original and shorter Leader Building!

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Very cool- I like that little "The United Clothing Stores" building on the corner.  Looks like a converted mansion.

1 hour ago, KJP said:

The original and shorter Leader Building!

 

 

Did the NIMBYS complain when they made it taller?😜

a film clip with sound

aug 24, 1929

national air race parade

 

 

 

 

 

1930s/40s 8mm film clips

 

 

 

and a 29min cle illuminating company short film from 1924 about a family that flies to cleveland -- go to 9:45 for incredible aerials!

 

 

an early 1960s short documentary of cle by american airlines

 

 

 

and a quick newsreel style clip from the 1950s:

 

 

 

  • 2 weeks later...

That was an incredible but tantalizingly short film. Love the Erie Railroad passenger train coming out of Cleveland Union Terminal, heading to Youngstown and probably Pittsburgh via North Randall, Solon, Aurora, Mantua, Warren.... And the transit hub scenes on Public Square are stunning. A different era with so many people on the sidewalks.... sigh.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

11 hours ago, KJP said:

 And the transit hub scenes on Public Square are stunning. A different era with so many people on the sidewalks.... sigh.

 

It certainly runs contrary to the modern mindset by some that "buses do not belong on Public Square."  

Cleveland has been crapped on nationally for so many years, I don't think you guys realize how good you have it in that regard. Last time I was in Cleveland was in September and Downtown was absolutely PACKED and this was during Covid. It was either a Friday or Saturday night I was there, I can't remember. MUCH more people than you would see in any other Ohio city. I live in Columbus and I was in Cincinnati the prior weekend, including Downtown Cincinnati so I'm qualified to speak on it! 

 

On 2/18/2021 at 11:43 AM, mrnyc said:

and a quick newsreel style clip from the 1950s:

 

 

 



They had Art Deco trains?! Bring them back! How cool would that be if they build modern ones with that same design? Did the trains of the Rapid Lines ever look similar or just commercial, I wonder? 

 

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1 hour ago, David said:


They had Art Deco trains?! Bring them back! How cool would that be if they build modern ones with that same design? Did the trains of the Rapid Lines ever look similar or just commercial, I wonder? 

 

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Those are intercity passenger rail trains. Subway and light rail cars never looked like that. The Red Line viaduct over the Cuyahoga used to also carry the west bound passenger trains when Terminal Tower was the station. Check it out on Google maps, you’ll notice the viaduct is very wide.  Unfortunately when the new Fed Courthouse was built, they destroyed the right of way for trains. In theory a new connection for trains could be built around that building, but @KJPhas estimated that it would cost $100-$150M, so it isn’t going to happen. 

The Red Line trains will be replaced “soon” (relative) - the new cars will look much more modern. 

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

On 2/17/2021 at 9:13 PM, mrnyc said:

an early 1960s short documentary of cle by american airlines

 

 

 

If this is in the 60s, it’s 1969 Cleveland...maybe ‘68.
 

The Rapid and downtown were still popular. Downtown had been in decline and entering steep decline at this point. Obviously the industrial economy was waning as well.

 

Great video.  Lots of Rapid riders. People dressed like actual adults. Wow.

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Well, that wasn't very flattering.  Was that supposed to entice visitors to Cleveland?  I am not sure I would have been enticed.  @CLENYC why do you think it was from 1969?   

 

 

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A must-watch film on the foundations of Cleveland's urban renewal plans. While Cleveland was demolishing itself around new expressways and segregated uses/people, a similar-sized city on the north side of Lake Ontario was rebuilding its housing stock and adding to it vertically, with mixed use/incomes, all designed around enhanced mass transit.

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

On 2/27/2021 at 6:25 PM, skiwest said:

Well, that wasn't very flattering.  Was that supposed to entice visitors to Cleveland?  I am not sure I would have been enticed.  @CLENYC why do you think it was from 1969?   

 

 

I was responding to a post that this video is from the early ‘60s. Definitely late ‘60s though, looks like it’s 1968 -1969.  Downtown was busy, especially during evening rush hours.
 

It was the real deal Flats back then and this was the River fire and the birth of the “Cleveland jokes” eras....oh, and the destructive race riots era as well.

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1 hour ago, CLENYC said:

I was responding to a post that this video is from the early ‘60s. Definitely late ‘60s though, looks like it’s 1968 -1969.

Based on the vehicles, I think it was earlier than 68-69.  

2 hours ago, skiwest said:

Based on the vehicles, I think it was earlier than 68-69.  

Regardless, a long ago era in Cleveland.  Couple of those young ladies’ outfits look later in the decade; really didn’t see women’s’ bare midriffs/backs in jeans. 
 

probably used some mixed dated video for this video. 

 

anyway, downtown busy with daytime pedestrians and crowded rapid transit trains. Still good downtown shopping but in decline despite the still busy sidewalks.

 

how about that toxic masculinity traffic cop checking out and rating the dames? lol

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^Look at all the people on that trolley 

And that's on East 55th, which was a very busy cross-town route (ie: one that didn't go into downtown). More people traveled just on the Euclid and East 55th streetcar lines in the 1940s (which is when this photo was taken) than they do on all of NE Ohio's transit systems today.

 

Back then, Cleveland was slightly larger than Toronto. The city of Cleveland underwent an urban renewal program based on slum clearance, reduction of density, segregated land uses (and people/incomes), expressways and promoted car usage in a heavily balkanized region. Toronto unified its regional governance and underwent an urban renewal program based on greater density, mixed use, inclusivity, equity and public transportation.

 

That video I posted above "Cleveland on schedule" shows how badly and blindly we de-urbanized this city.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

On 2/27/2021 at 10:05 AM, David said:


They had Art Deco trains?! Bring them back! How cool would that be if they build modern ones with that same design? 
 

 

 

the mercury in cle

 

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edit -- not cle, but check out a deco mercury going right down the street in syracuse in 1936 -- isn't that wild?

 

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