June 2, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, mrnyc said: via the smithsonian -- manufactured by H. A. Lozier Company in Cleveland, Ohio. I think I saw this guy sipping on IPAs at the Lakewood truck park a few days ago!
August 1, 20231 yr november, 1967 -- america's first big city african american mayor -- more: https://clevelandmagazine.com/in-the-cle/terminal/articles/carl-b.-stokes-was-more-than-cleveland-s-first-black-mayor city rebranding attempts -- An Illustrated History of Cleveland’s Varied Attempts at “Rebranding” Every so often, the local media in Cleveland sets about rebranding the city in an attempt to recover from its late-20th century decline. Why the city shouldn’t try to be what it isn’t, and instead embrace what it already is. RICHEY PIIPARINEN | RUST WIRE FEBRUARY 14, 2012 more: https://nextcity.org/urbanist-news/an-illustrated-history-of-clevelands-varied-attempts-at-rebranding league park --- and density! opening day was may 1, 1891 -- the spiders starting pitcher was none other than cy young used until 1946 for baseball, then began to be slowly torn down in 1951 more: https://coolhistoryofcleveland.wordpress.com another view nearby along lexington ave around e66st -- during the 1920 world series notable -- the only ws unassisted triple play and the first ws grand slam league park ushers -- nice cap!
August 19, 20231 yr november, 1967 -- america's first big city african american mayor -- more: https://clevelandmagazine.com/in-the-cle/terminal/articles/carl-b.-stokes-was-more-than-cleveland-s-first-black-mayor city rebranding attempts -- An Illustrated History of Cleveland’s Varied Attempts at “Rebranding” Every so often, the local media in Cleveland sets about rebranding the city in an attempt to recover from its late-20th century decline. Why the city shouldn’t try to be what it isn’t, and instead embrace what it already is. RICHEY PIIPARINEN | RUST WIRE FEBRUARY 14, 2012 more: https://nextcity.org/urbanist-news/an-illustrated-history-of-clevelands-varied-attempts-at-rebranding league park --- and density! opening day was may 1, 1891 -- the spiders starting pitcher was none other than cy young used until 1946 for baseball, then began to be slowly torn down in 1951 more: https://coolhistoryofcleveland.wordpress.com another view nearby along lexington ave around e66st -- during the 1920 world series notable -- the only ws unassisted triple play and the first ws grand slam league park ushers -- nice cap! Was that really the type of housing we had near league park??? I’m gonna be sick. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
August 20, 20231 yr On 8/1/2023 at 11:43 AM, mrnyc said: An Illustrated History of Cleveland’s Varied Attempts at “Rebranding” Every so often, the local media in Cleveland sets about rebranding the city in an attempt to recover from its late-20th century decline. Why the city shouldn’t try to be what it isn’t, and instead embrace what it already is. RICHEY PIIPARINEN | RUST WIRE FEBRUARY 14, 2012 more: https://nextcity.org/urbanist-news/an-illustrated-history-of-clevelands-varied-attempts-at-rebranding That's an interesting take on Cleveland and the search for a brand, or slogan to capture the essence of the city. The challenge with being versus becoming is that Cleveland and other Rust Belt cities had to change after 1980. Holding on to the past, or some ideal of the past was clearly ignoring the present, but no one was ready to leave that past behind yet, always hoping for the next Renaissance or Comeback or MAGA to come along and restore the glory, not build something new. I guess owning the Burning River, or being Against Everyone seemed hip for a while, but it's a dead end, slamming your head against the wall. Hitting rock bottom after the 2008 recession and the, shall we say, timing out of the Boomer generation over the last decade or so has allowed Cleveland and other Rust Belt cities to begin to shed that nostalgia for what once was, and perhaps begin to build something better for the future. But what a difficult transition it has been. I can't think of many cities, except perhaps some old Soviet ones, that hollowed out as much as the industrial giants of the Great Lakes.
August 20, 20231 yr 4 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said: Was that really the type of housing we had near league park??? I’m gonna be sick. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
September 3, 20231 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 5, 20231 yr The video starts at the location where the Jefferson Street lift bridge was located until it was, ironically, heavily damaged by fire in 1952 and ultimately closed and removed. Then there is a Hullett unloader (gone) on the right for the J&L Central Furnace whose blast furnace (gone) is just beyond the Erie-Lackawanna railroad main line lift bridge (gone). Most of this area has since gone back to nature or is used for aggregrates shipping. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 5, 20231 yr Incredible. I think there's a quick appearance at right by the stacks of the Standard Oil Refinery #1 power house too (gone). Edited September 5, 20231 yr by w28th
September 12, 20231 yr this will make you weepy for what we once had --- excellent lake shore electric railway video from the 1930s --
September 13, 20231 yr Such density and life. Old Cleveland reminds me of victorian era London with the crammed buildings, soot and industry.
September 13, 20231 yr There's a lot going on in that photo. And look how tiny the two people are to all the industrial movement and grandeur around them.
September 13, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, rwashington89 said: Such density and life. Old Cleveland reminds me of victorian era London with the crammed buildings, soot and industry. I think we get B&O terminal (with tower) and a distant Sheriff Street Market in that shot
September 13, 20231 yr ^ so much going on and still room for the classic castoria, uneeda biscuits & mail pouch ads.
October 29, 20231 yr Not sure the year … pre-1954? 1) Warehouse District intact 2) Trolley/ subway cut out on Superior
October 29, 20231 yr ^ A great view of the Columbus Road viaduct. A street I can find practically nothing about online. Seems like it was built in the late 20s and was still intact as late as 1979, if not later. Anyone got any more insight as to its origin and demise? My hovercraft is full of eels
October 29, 20231 yr 6 hours ago, roman totale XVII said: ^ A great view of the Columbus Road viaduct. A street I can find practically nothing about online. Seems like it was built in the late 20s and was still intact as late as 1979, if not later. Anyone got any more insight as to its origin and demise? I feel like it was closed down for a long time due to neglect and finally demoed with the construction of the Waterfront line. Perhaps @KJPhas a better memory than me of this?
October 29, 20231 yr Unfortunately I don't. I remember my father driving us up/down the old Columbus Road ramp in the 1970s but I'm pretty sure the bridge was gone by the end of the 1980s. I couldn't find any references or pictures of it in later years but there's plenty of photos at Cleveland Memory of it under construction (posted below) including its June 22, 1927 opening. Perhaps the best way to nail down when it was torn down would be to find pictures of other nearby structures, such as the Detroit-Superior bridge. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 29, 20231 yr 10 minutes ago, KJP said: Unfortunately I don't. I remember my father driving us up/down the old Columbus Road ramp in the 1970s but I'm pretty sure the bridge was gone by the end of the 1980s. I couldn't find any references or pictures of it in later years but there's plenty of photos at Cleveland Memory of it under construction (posted below) including its June 22, 1927 opening. Perhaps the best way to nail down when it was torn down would be to find pictures of other nearby structures, such as the Detroit-Superior bridge. My memory is foggy of this as well, but I seem to remember the old Shorty's Diner was underneath it?
October 29, 20231 yr Quote I seem to remember the old Shorty's Diner was underneath it? It was. In fact it almost went over all of it, so for a long time, until the viaduct was removed it was in its shadow. Shorty's had a 50s diner decor that was pretty cool. It was also once the Erie RR depot prior to the construction of the Union Terminal. Edited October 29, 20231 yr by Barneyboy
October 30, 20231 yr Erie RR actually didn't relocate its passenger trains to Cleveland Union Terminal until 1949 -- 19 years after CUT opened. Here's more info in a great video that came out yesterday... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 30, 20231 yr On 10/29/2023 at 6:04 AM, KJP said: Unfortunately I don't. I remember my father driving us up/down the old Columbus Road ramp in the 1970s but I'm pretty sure the bridge was gone by the end of the 1980s. I couldn't find any references or pictures of it in later years but there's plenty of photos at Cleveland Memory of it under construction (posted below) including its June 22, 1927 opening. Perhaps the best way to nail down when it was torn down would be to find pictures of other nearby structures, such as the Detroit-Superior bridge. Such a fascinating picture. It took me a moment to figure out the orientation of the photograph. Love to see the "Hotel Cleveland" signage and the beginning build of The Terminal Tower.. It is amazing to see how much progress was made in 96 years
October 30, 20231 yr Alpha Ct (between Euclid and Prospect / E. 9th and E. 8th… how hard to at least bring the signage back ?? (Shoutout to downtown walking tours 😀) Edited October 30, 20231 yr by MuRrAy HiLL
November 4, 20231 yr What a neat little restaurant located in an alley. Man you just can't replicate places like that. Our old downtown didn't have many tall buildings but we sure had density and cool. Irreplaceable.
November 6, 20231 yr I moved to Cleveland in 1991, and I am pretty sure I actually drove, once, on the Columbus Road viaduct. I think it came down shortly after...
November 14, 20231 yr Not sure the year … pre-1954? 1) Warehouse District intact 2) Trolley/ subway cut out on Superior Literally had no idea that Superior did that. That's 100 times cooler than anything we have now.Sent from my Pixel 8 Pro using Tapatalk
November 27, 20231 yr On 11/13/2023 at 8:18 PM, MyPhoneDead said: Literally had no idea that Superior did that. That's 100 times cooler than anything we have now. Sent from my Pixel 8 Pro using Tapatalk That was to be the start of a downtown streetcar subway whose citywide bond issue in 1919 or 1920 was defeated by Cleveland voters due to postwar high interest rates and a belief that it should be a countywide bond issue. That photo is pre-1954 when the streetcar ramps and deck on the lower level of the Detroit-Superior were converted to a roadway that didn't work. Cars kept hitting the support posts for the upper deck which were inches from the roadway lane. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 28, 20231 yr On 10/30/2023 at 3:22 PM, MuRrAy HiLL said: Alpha Ct (between Euclid and Prospect / E. 9th and E. 8th… how hard to at least bring the signage back ?? (Shoutout to downtown walking tours 😀) That's the back of 823 Prospect, aka Medical Mutual annex building, now the (former) mail room. I believe I remember reading the former restaurant use has ties to Chef Boyardee.
January 8, 20241 yr Saw this on Facebook. I believe this is Euclid and East 30th, the caption said it was the 1960s.Sent from my Pixel 8 Pro using Tapatalk
January 8, 20241 yr I think it's East 22nd. That looks like Trinity Cathedral in the background. Edited January 8, 20241 yr by freefourur
January 8, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, mack34 said: Its EAst 30th. That is the church across the street from News 5 studios. Nope, it’s East 22nd - the church at East 30th has a somewhat similar style but different proportions. https://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/239 clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 8, 20241 yr From 2011 before they CSU demoed the block for a new building. Edited January 8, 20241 yr by Whipjacka
January 8, 20241 yr also, do the 2007 streetview tour down euclid avenue. it is amazing how much better it got
January 8, 20241 yr ^I'd disagree with that. The siting of the new building is perhaps the worst in the City along both Prospect AND Euclid, effectively ruining the possibility of a continuous street wall for decades.
January 9, 20241 yr 14 hours ago, w28th said: ^I'd disagree with that. The siting of the new building is perhaps the worst in the City along both Prospect AND Euclid, effectively ruining the possibility of a continuous street wall for decades. its definitely not good for the err, health and wellness of the streetwall, but given what was built its better its not up on the sidewalk where you would have to actually look at it. 🙀 well ok its not that awful, but its no looker. does csu have an architecture program? seems like the perfect place for an urban architecture emphasis program. i dk that it would directly help with new campus buildings, but it might if they had one, no??
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