November 12, 201014 yr That's a real cool idea you've come up with, scotdor! I'm sure a lot of us on here, being both urban geeks and local history geeks, are eager to see more.
November 15, 201014 yr Thats a great shot, shows the size of the mall without the addition to Public Hall
December 3, 201014 yr Does anyone have or know where I can find photos of the old cardboard 'oven' they used to give kids at the Higbee's or the Silver Grille? We've been looking for the genuine item, but if I can find decent photos I can probably fake one. Unfortunately I haven't seen any photos of one anywhere at all on the 'net...
December 4, 201014 yr ^Welcome to the forum. The last time I saw one was at an event held at the Silver Grille - it was in a display case. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
December 4, 201014 yr There is at least one photograph of the cardboard Silver Grille stove in the Cleveland Landmarks Press series: either "The Higbee Company and the Silver Grille" or "The Silver Grille: Memories and Recipes"...or maybe the cardboard stove photo is in each of them? Both books out of print but you can find used copies on Ebay or Amazon.
December 13, 201014 yr the classic 1960's burning river photo which gave cleveland its old moniker (even tho you could see shots like this around nyc waterways, for example, thru the 1980's :whip: ) once a three newspaper town remember newspapers? :laugh: speaking of newspapers, here's the sporting news 1/9/1957 hough 9/12/1966 Ist Blaxploitation Film. Uptight! - On the night following the MLK assassination, Cleveland broke out in riots. A group of black militants stagd a robbery of a gun and ammunition warehouse to fight the man. Johnny, the millitant leader, kills a guard during the gun robbery. Tank , a fellow millitant, turns in Johnny to the police to get the reward money. The militants try to track Tank down to kill him for ratting out Johnny. One of the first blaxploitation films. Filmed in Cleveland's east-side black Hough neighborhood. Martin Luther King funeral footage. Glenville Riots This introduction film explorers the events of the Glenville Shootout (in Cleveland) that led to riots from July 23-28, 1968. This event follows the election of Carl Stokes as Mayor of Cleveland, the first African-American mayor of a major US city. This film was made as a introduction to an online course for middle school students in Beachwood Ohio http://wn.com/Filmed_in_Cleveland's_Hough_Neighborhood_in_1968_Uptight!__The_1st_Blaxploitation_Film prentke house 1909 hollenden hotel 1900 public sq the classic frozen in 1937 shot
December 17, 201014 yr Does anybody know if the building at the nE corner of Huron and East 9th had its current facade simply attached to the existing building shown above, or was it built new in the 1970's? The height is the same I believe. Prospect Avenue must have been an amazing avenue to walk down in its heyday.
December 17, 201014 yr Does anybody know if the building at the nE corner of Huron and East 9th had its current facade simply attached to the existing building shown above, or was it built new in the 1970's? The height is the same I believe. Prospect Avenue must have been an amazing avenue to walk down in its heyday. I'm pretty sure it's a "new" building. There is a plaque on the building noting the architect or builder -- it wasn't to Breuer either. Ten years ago when I was going to do a Cleveland then-and-now book of comparison pictures, I was planning to use the photo below taken from the west side of Water Street (West 9th) just south of St. Clair. I got permission to take a photo from this same vantage point -- it was from an occupied office suite. And the only building in this view that's still standing is the three-story structure just right of center. The parade is of troops serving in the Spanish-American war. I don't remember if they were returning or leaving.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 20, 201014 yr Does anybody know if the building at the nE corner of Huron and East 9th had its current facade simply attached to the existing building shown above, or was it built new in the 1970's? The height is the same I believe. Prospect Avenue must have been an amazing avenue to walk down in its heyday. That is the anisfeld (sp?) building. Used to house a piano store. The buildings (there are actually 2 separate structures there) are the still there... but the facades were completely removed to place the new granite facade on them... so there is nothing historic left to restore underneath. old bones. new skin.
December 20, 201014 yr Nothing new here, but man oh man, developers have sure turned gold into a pile of crap at the NW corer of Euclid and 9th. I know it's good for the skyline, but I think I'd even prefer Bond Clothing to the NCB PNC Center. I'd KILL to have the Hickox building and that cool one to its west with the pointy roof line.
January 24, 201114 yr Can anyone place anything in this picture?? Is this the current parking lot of the Warehouse District? Or is this maybe even not Cleveland:
January 24, 201114 yr Here are some other good ones: 1947: JD Rockefeller's house: 1896 Public Square:
January 24, 201114 yr More old Cleveland: Ontario St: 1907 Superior St: Warehouse District trolley construction:
January 24, 201114 yr Can anyone place anything in this picture?? Is this the current parking lot of the Warehouse District? Or is this maybe even not Cleveland: ^ Well it from the old national city building, so that must be prospect Yes looking at it again you can see the roof of the euclid arcade(colonial marketplace) and the buildings across form that would be the east 4th prospect parking lot. On the far left of the picture, the red building I believe is the United Church of Christ building which was built in 1896.
January 24, 201114 yr some interesting pictures here http://photos.cleveland.com/4501/gallery/st_patricks_day_parade_in_cleveland_since_1867/index.html
January 24, 201114 yr In my misc. wishes for the renovated Mall, I hope they have a replica Hanna Fountain. That 1947 pic shows how wide the Mall was before the addition.
January 24, 201114 yr The Horicultural Gardens Stadium pictures is particularly depressing. Look at that garden
January 24, 201114 yr Here are some interesting pictures, mostly from the 60s and 70s here they are! WARNING: Be ready to feel sick! :( http://www.flickr.com/photos/27484989@N08/sets/72157611381993522/
January 24, 201114 yr Here are some interesting pictures, mostly from the 60s and 70s here they are! WARNING: Be ready to feel sick! :( http://www.flickr.com/photos/27484989@N08/sets/72157611381993522/ I'm all verklempt I thouhght Bond's was the coolest building EVA! Kon-Tiki - my grandfather told us that is the place they send bad kids to be scraficied Captain Franks the Williamson bldg. Clock Halles :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( Why did you post this? You're so mean! I hate you!
January 24, 201114 yr Seeing Captain Frank's again nearly gave me an aneurysm. these whippersnappers don't know that see this stuff sets off so many emotions. All that was needed, was a pic of Hough Bakery on Public Square.
January 24, 201114 yr If I was a developer and had the money I would love to recreate some of Cleveland's lost great architecture. Even if not im the original location it would be cool to bring back some of the dead. Imagine seeing some of these great old buildings we see in this thread being recreated and brought back to life. And if I REALLY had ALOT money I would wipe out everything between superior and lakeside, east of e 13th, and west of the freeway, that lacked any significance. Then I would build block after block of buildings from our past. That would be amazing
January 25, 201114 yr My partner picked this up at one of the recent sales at the library: clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 25, 201114 yr I just went through that guys flickr set today as well. It. Is. Sick. The image quality is amazing also. The one showing the southside of Prospect at E4th is just unreal. And the Roxy, so sleazy. And awesome.
January 25, 201114 yr Captain Franks! That really does bring back fond childhood memories. So sad to see what we have done to our cities. Living in Lyndhurst, we used to go to the giant slide all the time! I seem to remember it being part of an ice cream stand? Wasn't there also an old Zayre's in the same parking lot?
January 25, 201114 yr here they are! WARNING: Be ready to feel sick! http://www.flickr.com/photos/27484989@N08/sets/72157611381993522/ Looking at these pictures I can kind of understand why people fled to the suburbs. While I love the old architecture and think that the mass demolitions of the 60's and 70's were tragic, fleeing to Maple Heights may crazy today but it made some sense then. The pictures show a dilapidated city with soot covered buildings, liquor stores on every downtown corner, and dirty streets. The suburbs were new, clean, safe, and spacious compared to the dirty city. Cleveland looks a lot nicer today as far as cleanliness goes than it did in the 60's and 70's. Urban living today is a very different experience than it must have been then and I am glad that downtown is coming back.
January 25, 201114 yr Can anyone place anything in this picture?? Is this the current parking lot of the Warehouse District? Or is this maybe even not Cleveland: Yes, in fact you can see the four turrets on top of the old Sheriff Street Market, most of which burned in 1930. Sheriff Street became East 4th Street. Thus the buildings in the foreground (of which you can only see the roofs), are along the south side of Euclid. The next row is on the north side of Prospect (including the building with the painted billboard for the Pompeian restaurant). The next row is, of course on the south side of Prospect and includes buildings that were just bought by parking lot owner and developer Lou Frangos, including my alma mater Myers College (former Columbia Building), noted here: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,3594.msg539579.html#msg539579 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 25, 201114 yr Ok maybe that came out wrong. I think the mass exodus to suburbs in the 60's and 70's was an awful thing and I personally do not agree with it. The point that I was trying to make was it seems incomprehensible to a young person today (I'm in my 20's) why this mass exodus occurred. These pictures help me understand the rationale better of those who decided to leave although I still think they were wrong.
January 25, 201114 yr Ok maybe that came out wrong. I think the mass exodus to suburbs in the 60's and 70's was an awful thing and I personally do not agree with it. The point that I was trying to make was it seems incomprehensible to a young person today (I'm in my 20's) why this mass exodus occurred. These pictures help me understand the rationale better of those who decided to leave although I still think they were wrong. I understand why it happened. The city fell asleep since the Great Depression and did not address aging industries, decrepit housing conditions, corruption, new highways, block-busting, racism and many other problems. I remember growing up in the 1960s and 70s in the clean and quiet Lyndhurst and Highland Heights, then moved outward again as traffic got worse in those areas. We moved to Geauga County in 1978, staying there until 1993. Then I started moving back inward, eventually to the east end of Lakewood. What I remember of Cleveland back in the 1970s was a very gritty city, but it was also colorful and real. While Cleveland has lots of cool stuff downtown these days, at times it seems antiseptic if not cartoonish. But I will take it compared to what I grew up with. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 25, 201114 yr highways... :x yeah there are many reasons why the population dropped. If you look, almost every east coast/midwest city had a drop in population after the 1950s census. Including chicago and new york.
January 25, 201114 yr I'm definitely getting a lump in my throat looking at those Cleveland Memory Pool shots. I can definitely see where the Chicago comparisons came from originally.
January 26, 201114 yr Here are some interesting pictures, mostly from the 60s and 70s here they are! WARNING: Be ready to feel sick! :( http://www.flickr.com/photos/27484989@N08/sets/72157611381993522/ Totally, totally amazing. There seems to be a huge gap (on the web, anyway) of photo documentation of the city in this era. These are incredible. On ground level, a completely different city from today.
January 26, 201114 yr I wish they had google streetview from back then and early lol :lol: Actually that would be bad ass would that be to go back in time, pick an area and view as if you are standing in the street through Google. https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
January 27, 201114 yr The closest you can get to that is at historicaerial.com where you can toggle back and forth between some aerials from the 2000s and stay in the exact same place from the exact same altitude to look down at the same site in the 1970s, 1950s, or even as far back into the 1930s in some areas. The resolution in search mode isn't great, but you can tell what's what. And you can buy higher-res images if you find something you might really like. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 27, 201114 yr The closest you can get to that is at historicaerial.com where you can toggle back and forth between some aerials from the 2000s and stay in the exact same place from the exact same altitude to look down at the same site in the 1970s, 1950s, or even as far back into the 1930s in some areas. The resolution in search mode isn't great, but you can tell what's what. And you can buy higher-res images if you find something you might really like. Agreed, it's really cool to look at Tower City or see exactly where the entrances to the subway under the Veterans Memorial bridge were.
January 28, 201114 yr Cool set on Flickr, link courtesy of Frowns sportsblog (Clevelandfrowns.com). There are some random Maple hts pics mixed in but there are other gems like Halle's last days and a post card highting the Lakeview Terrace projects (?) KJP the second pic is right up your alley, the Freedom train as it steams by the old Muni stadium in 1975 (http://freedomtrain.org/american-freedom-train-timeline.htm). http://www.flickr.com/photos/27484989@N08/sets/72157611381993522/ Cleveland Memory pool on flickr, it's probably a repost but it can't hurt. http://www.flickr.com/groups/13603077@N00/
February 3, 201114 yr Just saw this 8x10 glass negative on shorpy.com. Euclid Ave. Right were it intersects public square. An amazing photo from 1911 that I've never seen before. Not sure if it has been posted here or not, but here it is: http://www.shorpy.com/node/9827?size=_original
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