February 3, 201114 yr the streetlights the arch into the county building the PEOPLE the horses/mules What is that building with the tower? The HIPPODROME the may company (gasping) THANK YOU!!!
February 3, 201114 yr ^ I was right... Public Square: 1907 http://www.shorpy.com/node/9820?size=_original Cuyahoga River: 1905 http://www.shorpy.com/node/7983?size=_original League Park: 1910 http://www.shorpy.com/node/9816?size=_original Colonial Arcade: 1900 http://www.shorpy.com/node/8951?size=_original Arcade: 1901 http://www.shorpy.com/node/7402?size=_original New England Building(Old National City) 1908 http://www.shorpy.com/node/8696?size=_original Colonial Hotel: 1900 http://www.shorpy.com/node/8950?size=_original Arcade: 1966 http://www.shorpy.com/node/7403?size=_original Old City Hall: 1905 http://www.shorpy.com/node/7906?size=_original The Hollenden: 1900 http://www.shorpy.com/node/7528?size=_original Flats: 1910 http://www.shorpy.com/node/9229?size=_original
February 3, 201114 yr A couple more, from the same site: http://www.shorpy.com/node/9820?size=_original (Public Square, 1907. Look at all the grime and soot!) http://www.shorpy.com/node/9816?size=_original (League Park, 1910)
February 3, 201114 yr That picture of Euclid is so cool. Hard to imagine people dressed like that...and the crowds. I know there were a few minor protests at the time (I was not one of them...I thought it was progress) but I now cannot get over what downtown lost with the demolition of the Cuyahoga and Williamson Buildings for the BP development. With our current sense of renovation I could picture both of those buildings being very hot high end condos on Public Square just like the Park Building (and very desirable). It would have been so much better if BP had gone across the square where the (Jacobs parking lot) as those buildings at the time (I believe they were 1 and 33 Public Square) were nothing much. Could you imagine Public Square today with a great BP Building on that quadrant (of course looking nothing like the current building as it would have looked awkward on that site, but mixed use) with the Cuyahoga and Williamsom Buildings still intact? C'est la vie.
February 3, 201114 yr I was able to count 3 buildings in the Euclid pic that are definitely still standing today, at least.
February 3, 201114 yr It is too bad that the buildings on public square where the Jacob's lot is were demolished. Does anybody know why they were torn down? Just for parking? A part of me almost wishes that teh buildings where the terminal tower is now located were still standing. I love the terminal tower but as far as a livable urban neighborhood the downtown from 1900 would be awesome today.
February 3, 201114 yr ^Actually no big deal that these were demolished as I suggested above (unlike the Cuyahoga and Williamson Buildings). They were very nondescript, cramped inside and clad in this god awful siding to "modernize them. They were torn down for the Ameritrust project which was never done because Ameritrust merged with Key.
February 3, 201114 yr We did lose some beautiful buildings along euclid avenue though. Just look at the picture! :-(
February 3, 201114 yr Scotdor...these photos you are posting are fascinating...by the way...look how thin everybody looked backed then as compared to today (probably just generalizing...after all William Howard Taft was none too thin)
February 3, 201114 yr Euclid Beach: http://www.shorpy.com/node/7737?size=_original Another great find!
February 3, 201114 yr It is too bad that the buildings on public square where the Jacob's lot is were demolished. Does anybody know why they were torn down? Just for parking? A part of me almost wishes that teh buildings where the terminal tower is now located were still standing. I love the terminal tower but as far as a livable urban neighborhood the downtown from 1900 would be awesome today. They were torn down for a new AmeriTrust Bank headquarters. AmeriTrust then Merged with Society Bank which completed and moved into their new HQ on Public Square. Since AmeriTrust no longer existed, the building was not needed. We got a temporary parking lot ::) ::) ::) There is deep discussion of this topic here on the board, so I dont want to take this thread off topic.
February 3, 201114 yr I decided to spend a bit of time browsing the Library of Congress website (source of most of the Shorpy images) myself for some photos. Beats doing real work! Here are some gems that I found: Public Square, 1916 http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/scotdor/pubsq1916.jpg Bridge swept away by flooding, Cuyahoga River 1911 http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/scotdor/bridgeflood.jpg Sheriff Street Market, 1905. I've never heard of this one! http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/scotdor/sheriffstreetmkt1905.jpg
February 3, 201114 yr Oi, I need to upload these to a different account to display them in full size.
February 3, 201114 yr Sheriff Street Market, 1905. I've never heard of this one! http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/scotdor/sheriffstreetmkt1905.jpg East 4th Street This was the predecessor of the Central market, IIRC.
February 3, 201114 yr These pics are fabulous. Absolutely fabulous. Thank you for posting them. Ah, to have been a straw hat manufacturer in the early 1900's!
February 4, 201114 yr Arcade: 1901 http://www.shorpy.com/node/7402?size=_original I love how that shot shows the original Superior Avenue side staircase. "Flats: 1910 http://www.shorpy.com/node/9229?size=_original" This one threw me off a little - I *think* that jackknife bridge was replaced by the Center Street swing bridge. Lots of great vintage shots - thanks for posting! clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 4, 201114 yr A couple more, from the same site: http://www.shorpy.com/node/9820?size=_original (Public Square, 1907. Look at all the grime and soot!) http://www.shorpy.com/node/9816?size=_original (League Park, 1910) I don't think I have seen that perspective on the original buildings at the terminal tower site. Thanks. Higbee's looks cool
February 4, 201114 yr I don't think I have seen that perspective on the original buildings at the terminal tower site. Thanks. Higbee's looks cool Not only was Higbee's a cool visual, it was cool to shop in! The Window display's were awesom. That place was magical to me!
February 4, 201114 yr Arcade: 1901 http://www.shorpy.com/node/7402?size=_original I love how that shot shows the original Superior Avenue side staircase. "Flats: 1910 http://www.shorpy.com/node/9229?size=_original" This one threw me off a little - I *think* that jackknife bridge was replaced by the Center Street swing bridge. Lots of great vintage shots - thanks for posting! If so, the jackknife bridge still next to the swing bridge but "stuck" in the up position.
February 4, 201114 yr A couple more, from the same site: http://www.shorpy.com/node/9816?size=_original (League Park, 1910) If only they had the foresight to keep League Park we would potentially have our own "Wrigleyville" on the near east side of Cleveland. Spreaking of foresight, I guess that can be said for all of these buildings.
February 4, 201114 yr A couple more, from the same site: http://www.shorpy.com/node/9816?size=_original (League Park, 1910) If only they had the foresight to keep League Park we would potentially have our own "Wrigleyville" on the near east side of Cleveland. Spreaking of foresight, I guess that can be said for all of these buildings. Municipal stadium was needed. League Park at the time could not be modernized, for professional sports.
February 4, 201114 yr A couple more, from the same site: http://www.shorpy.com/node/9816?size=_original (League Park, 1910) If only they had the foresight to keep League Park we would potentially have our own "Wrigleyville" on the near east side of Cleveland. Spreaking of foresight, I guess that can be said for all of these buildings. Municipal stadium was needed. League Park at the time could not be modernized, for professional sports. Thanks, I never knew that. I didn't follow the Indians growing up and have very little knowledge of their history and stadiums.
February 4, 201114 yr Arcade: 1901 http://www.shorpy.com/node/7402?size=_original I love how that shot shows the original Superior Avenue side staircase. "Flats: 1910 http://www.shorpy.com/node/9229?size=_original" This one threw me off a little - I *think* that jackknife bridge was replaced by the Center Street swing bridge. Lots of great vintage shots - thanks for posting! If so, the jackknife bridge still next to the swing bridge but "stuck" in the up position. The current jack knife bridge replaced the bascule bridge shown in the photo. Maybe in the 1950's?
February 4, 201114 yr I don't think I have seen that perspective on the original buildings at the terminal tower site. Thanks. Higbee's looks cool Not only was Higbee's a cool visual, it was cool to shop in! The Window display's were awesom. That place was magical to me! I know you are old, but I did not realize you shopped there before the Terimal Tower was built! (check the picture, there is an old Higbees building on the site of the current Higbee's building, but it has a cool oval top, and was part of the 5,000+ structures leveled to build the TTC) EDIT: it was next to Hotel Cleveland, so it was not on the original site, but close
February 4, 201114 yr I don't think I have seen that perspective on the original buildings at the terminal tower site. Thanks. Higbee's looks cool Not only was Higbee's a cool visual, it was cool to shop in! The Window display's were awesom. That place was magical to me! I know you are old, but I did not realize you shopped there before the Terimal Tower was built! (check the picture, there is an old Higbees building on the site of the current Higbee's building, but it has a cool oval top, and was part of the 5,000+ structures leveled to build the TTC) EDIT: it was next to Hotel Cleveland, so it was not on the original site, but close Sweetie, obviously your old eyes didn't scrool down. See the picture, of "new" Higbee's public square, in the responses! Dont you have pile of hick or hillbilly to fight your way from under?
February 25, 201114 yr Since my post of Cleveland in the '80s was recently resurrected, I promised to post a few more images. This time from the 1970s, the age of $1 Beer Nite at the Stadium, WIXY 1260 and unimpeded bowling balls rolling down Euclid Ave. Included among the images of downtown are some hotel brochures. They were both built and owned by Jim Carney and were equally tacky (I particularly love the crushed velvet furniture in the Presidential Suite). There's also pictures from a Plain Dealer from 1957 illustrating the evolution of structures occupying the area of what is now the Quicken Loans Arena. Enjoy.
February 25, 201114 yr Awesome stuff! Thanks so much for posting. In the first picture, the dark steel mill on the right appears to be the Republic pipe mill on Scranton Peninsula. When that mill was demolished somewhere around that time (looks like there's some demolition equipment already on site!), who'da thought that site would still be vacant three decades later.. The Old River Road shot is great. Lots of dive bars in that photo, yet some early promotional stuff for an upcoming event appears to be dangling over the street. Near where that picture from the 1800s was taken was the area called the Haymarket District. Guess some of these places are aptly named! I've posted some pictures here of the pigeon hole parking deck. It was a fascinating thing that lasted until it was demolished in the early- to mid-80s for the proposed domed stadium. Cars were raised by pulleys up to their parking spaces on "shelves" and lowered back down when the driver returned. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 25, 201114 yr ^ That guy has what we used to call 'styled' hair. Men having fancy hair like that (beyond a simple barber cut) came into play in the 1970s, at least in Kentucky. The hotels are cool in a retro sort of way. Bond Court is a bit too much, but Hollenden House is a lot of fun. I notice they have the ground floor pretty open to the street...a lot of glass. Interior of the Presidential Suite is done up in a somewhat "Mediterreanean" interior decoration style, which was popular in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Sort of heavy Spanish-esque influenced aesthetic. Or sometimes called "Italian Provincial". Often done in molded plastic as much as wood. @@@ I like that red neon Highbees sign. I see Cincy had those big illuminated signs, too. ...and isnt River Road what became the modern Flats?
February 26, 201114 yr oh the glow of the higbees sign hurts, i had almost forgotten that view *siiigh* re the pidgeon hole parking deck -- i remember it and btw there is a just about an exact duplicate still in use in lower manhattan on fulton st near the seaport. The hotels are cool in a retro sort of way. Bond Court is a bit too much, but Hollenden House is a lot of fun. I notice they have the ground floor pretty open to the street...a lot of glass. i'm the opposite on those two! while that hollenden was a rather notorious den for sinatra and rock stars and the like, it was nothing vs it's earlier grand self: as for the bond, it's funny i was just thinking about it yesterday as i was waiting around right in front of the loew's philadelphia hotel aka the first international style building - cant think of a more pleasant site to gawk at while waiting on a bus lol, but i kind of wished the bond court was still around, it would be a great retro hotel.
February 26, 201114 yr I love the hotel brochure with one guy and two ladies. isn't that noted 70's screen star Karen Black on the right? http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=karen+black&cp=9&bav=on.1,or.&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1220&bih=997 http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
February 26, 201114 yr I love the hotel brochure with one guy and two ladies. The 70s were a time when fading old-school sexism greeted the arrival of new-school suggestiveness. The Billy D Williams commercials for Colt 45 "It works every time" and the Delta Airlines "Fly me" commercials were priceless! ...and isnt River Road what became the modern Flats? Yep, River Road was the Flats East Bank. It was mostly blue-collar/edgy bars for longshoremen, bikers, mobsters and people who wanted to live dangerously. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 26, 201114 yr public square pre-terminal tower! 1924 all taken 8/16/1916 1861-99 1876 4/28/1865 - lincoln's funeral
February 26, 201114 yr Great great stuff! "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 26, 201114 yr These pics are classic! I especially like the second evening skyline shot with the Terminal Tower!
February 27, 201114 yr I love the hotel brochure with one guy and two ladies. isn't that noted 70's screen star Karen Black on the right? http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=karen+black&cp=9&bav=on.1,or.&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1220&bih=997 and herbert streicher on the left? :laugh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Reems
February 27, 201114 yr Love it - any chance you have more shots? :-) clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 27, 201114 yr Love it - any chance you have more shots? :-) I thought you didn't "do" nostalgia?? ;) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 27, 201114 yr They are entranced by that mustache. And so am I.... I love the hotel brochure with one guy and two ladies.
February 28, 201114 yr Love the ad for 'traveling men'. You just don't hear beds described as 'drowsy' anymore.
February 28, 201114 yr Awesome pics. There is a Ron Burgundy joke somewhere in that picture of the two women and the guy....
February 28, 201114 yr Awesome pics. There is a Ron Burgundy joke somewhere in that picture of the two women and the guy.... 'Ladies': "Take me to Pleasure Town" Sr. Mustachio: "Oh, we're going there!" alternatively Man (to women) : I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.
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