I think I saw something on the news about Twinsburg already hiring for one of the locations

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170423/NEWS/170429935/amazon-is-leasing-large-space-in-euclid

 

Curious how many jobs this will be.  Great to see this.

Meh

In other Euclid news:

 

Please join us for Chipotle’s Grand Opening!

Thursday, April 27^th, 2017

10:30am = Ribbon Cutting

10:45am = Doors open to the public

Chipotle: 22250 Lakeshore Boulevard (Downtown Euclid)

 

We hope you can join us at 10:30am for brief remarks by Chipotle General Manager, Brooke Shultz, Euclid Mayor Holzheimer Gail and Director of Planning and Development Jonathan Holody. A ribbon cutting by the Euclid Chamber of Commerce to proceed doors opening to the public at 10:45am.

 

No RSVP needed.

 

Please share the Grand Opening with your network via the link found here. The first 100 customers will receive a free Chipotle swag bag.

Meh

 

Ahh... bummer.  I guess this is the future of retail.

Too bad there isnt a business case for Amazon to re purpose old malls.  90% Amazon distribution center, 10% restaurant / retail

Too bad there isnt a business case for Amazon to re purpose old malls.  90% Amazon distribution center, 10% restaurant / retail

 

And part of that 10 percent being an Amazon outlet store of unclaimed merchandise sold at a discount.

Oh, I wouldn't worry about that old mall very much. It has been officially condemned and has been completely vacated. All of the churches that were there are gone.

 

 

All of this is about to change very soon though and it will include a complete remake of about 65 acres of the site into something pretty awesome.

 

 

Oh, I wouldn't worry about that old mall very much. It has been officially condemned and has been completely vacated. All of the churches that were there are gone.

 

 

All of this is about to change very soon though and it will include a complete remake of about 65 acres of the site into something pretty awesome.

 

 

Cool!  Now if only they would consider extending the Red Line out there.

Oh, I wouldn't worry about that old mall very much. It has been officially condemned and has been completely vacated. All of the churches that were there are gone.

 

 

All of this is about to change very soon though and it will include a complete remake of about 65 acres of the site into something pretty awesome.

 

 

 

You suck. So bad.

 

 

Cool!  Now if only they would consider extending the Red Line out there.

 

Oh they've considered it, weighed it against the alternatives, and would love to recommend it if only for a lack of funding.

Well, someone did file for next month's Planning and Zoning Commission meeting on May 9.

So, I suppose it is public record... if only someone where to submit a public records request to the City

Meanwhile... down on the farm:

Well, someone did file for next month's Planning and Zoning Commission meeting on May 9.

So, I suppose it is public record... if only someone where to submit a public records request to the City

 

Consider it done.

Oh, I wouldn't worry about that old mall very much. It has been officially condemned and has been completely vacated. All of the churches that were there are gone.

 

 

All of this is about to change very soon though and it will include a complete remake of about 65 acres of the site into something pretty awesome.

 

 

 

IKEA...

 

 

:roll:

 

A boy can dream.

Oh, I wouldn't worry about that old mall very much. It has been officially condemned and has been completely vacated. All of the churches that were there are gone.

 

 

All of this is about to change very soon though and it will include a complete remake of about 65 acres of the site into something pretty awesome.

 

 

 

You're killin me, smalls! Lol. When will we have more info on this? Sounds exciting

Planning and Zoning Commission meeting agenda:

https://goo.gl/xzHAcV

 

 

Planning and Zoning Commission meeting agenda:

https://goo.gl/xzHAcV

 

That is very interesting...

Bye, Euclid Square Mall; hello Amazon?

Ken Prendergast

May 3, 2017

 

After 40 years, Euclid Square Mall is destined to be physically replaced by the latest thing in retailing -- E-commerce. The mall, having closed Sept. 19, 2016 after years of limping along with two dozen churches as its remaining tenants, is vacated and officially condemned by the city for safety violations. Euclid Square Mall had succumbed to the changing retail market and population shifts long ago.

 

Circumstantial evidence suggests the replacement for the 687,000-square-foot shopping mall will be a massive distribution facility for the online retail giant Amazon. Called a Fulfillment Center, the facility would measure at least 650,000 square feet and possibly be as large as 1 million square feet. Based on similar projects elsewhere in Ohio, it would represent a capital investment in facilities and equipment of more than $100 million and result in the hiring of more than 600 permanent jobs.

 

MORE:

http://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2017/05/bye-euclid-square-mall-hello-amazon.html

Planning and Zoning Commission meeting agenda:

https://goo.gl/xzHAcV

 

That is very interesting...

 

Very intrigued.  :-o

Euclid Square Mall, now dead, could be demolished for massive industrial project

By Michelle Jarboe

 

Another dead Northeast Ohio mall could be bulldozed for an industrial project, under plans being floated by an Atlanta-area developer that has constructed sprawling distribution centers for Amazon.com and other retail behemoths.

 

On Tuesday, Euclid's Planning and Zoning Commission will consider a request to rezone a 66-acre site, spanning Euclid Square Mall and a few adjacent parcels, from retail to industrial use. Documents filed with the city identify Seefried Industrial Properties, Inc., of Georgia as the potential buyer of the properties.

 

And those documents show that Seefried wants to construct a massive building - 650,000 to 1 million square feet - where the vacant mall now stands.

 

 

MORE:

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/05/euclid_square_mall_now_dead_co.html

Copy cat.

Info above says 4 local Amazon facilities are rumored to be in the overall Amazon plans for CLE.

 

The Euclid mall spot would appear to be a full Amazon warehouse/fulfillment center (not sure if large or small package.. they sometimes build both in an area... to handle different types of products). This is an unusual urban location for an Amazon FC (my company ships to dozens of them, most rural...)

 

The recently opened Twinsburg facility is a sortation center that merely sorts orders sent from other Amazon facilities down to the post office closest to delivery address.

 

The smaller, already operating Euclid facility is a delivery center, from which packages from other Amazon locations are sent directly to consumers via couriers, etc

 

The 4th facility rumored is quite possibly a Prime Now hub from which items could be delivered to consumers within hours of order.

 

 

Planning and Zoning Commission approved (4-0, one member absent) to recommend the rezoning of Euclid Square Mall properties.

Next up, Council for three readings and Architectural Review Board

Meeting last night with the Architectural Review Board: schematic approval given

 

 

 

Euclid fulfillment center project - possibly Amazon - on dead mall site gets design approval

 

The massive industrial project slated to replace Euclid Square Mall won design approval late Tuesday. And though the developer wouldn't identify the tenant, several clues - the size, layout, function and color scheme - point to Amazon.

 

Euclid's Architectural Review Board approved schematic plans for a huge fulfillment center that will supplant the dead mall, which closed last year. The building will occupy a 650,000-square-foot footprint and, with two levels of robotic storage tucked above the main floor, contain 1.7 million square feet of floor space.

 

Plans also call for 53 truck docks and parking for 200 trailers and nearly 1,800 cars.

 

Executives with Seefried Industrial Properties, the developer, won't say who needs that much space. And during an hour-long design discussion, review board members didn't ask about the building's intended occupant.

 

But Seefried, based in Atlanta, is the same developer behind an Amazon fulfillment center being constructed on the former site of Randall Park Mall, a 20-mile drive from Euclid. And documents submitted to Euclid's planning department show a tan-and-brown building with orangey-gold accents - an orangey-gold that looks a lot like one of Amazon's signature colors.

 

A spokeswoman for the Seattle-based e-commerce giant wouldn't confirm anything Wednesday morning. "Amazon has a practice of not commenting on speculation," she said.

 

Seefried has a deal to buy the 68-acre Euclid site, which includes the shuttered mall and freestanding buildings on its fringes. The purchases, from multiple owners, could take place within 30 days, said David Riefe, the developer's senior vice president for the Midwest.

 

 

MORE:

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/09/euclid_fulfillment_center_proj.html#incart_river_home

My source close to Amazon says this will be a delivery station, much smaller than the fulfillment center in North Randall.

I'm told the smaller Amazon delivery station you note is already operating in Euclid (I actually received a shipment from it last week per the Amazon tracking info provided to me..) - though there has been little press on its existence. This new facility is a full blown fulfillment center that's actually a bit larger than North Randall, depending on how you count the square footage.

My source close to Amazon says this will be a delivery station, much smaller than the fulfillment center in North Randall.

 

That's planned for across 260th in Bluestone Business Park (about 80,000 square feet).  The size of the mall site facility as suggested by the renderings present to the Architectural Review Board suggest a facility with a 650,000 square foot footprint and 1.7 million total square feet of space when storage is factored in.  That's more in line with a Small Sortable Fulfillment Center, which typically range from 600,000 to 1.2 million square feet.

 

Here's a link to the Crain's article concerning the delivery station:

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170423/NEWS/170429935/amazon-is-leasing-large-space-in-euclid

It's kind of interesting that they keep building on dead mall sites, seeing as online shopping had a large part in killing the malls in the first place.

 

The operation currently located on Bluestone Boulevard is indeed a fully operating small delivery facility using the sorting code of CLE1 It uses an app where "private contractors" (people with a car) can pick up 20-40 packages and deliver them over a 3-4 hour time period typically all within the same zip code. It's been in operation since this past spring.

 

 

Whatever operation will happen on the mall site is listed on the various Planning and Zoning Commission and Architectural Review Board applications as a "fulfillment center".

 

 

 

 

That is all

 

 

 

The operation currently located on Bluestone Boulevard is indeed a fully operating small delivery facility using the sorting code of CLE1 It uses an app where "private contractors" (people with a car) can pick up 20-40 packages and deliver them over a 3-4 hour time period typically all within the same zip code. It's been in operation since this past spring.

 

 

Whatever operation will happen on the mall site is listed on the various Planning and Zoning Commission and Architectural Review Board applications as a "fulfillment center".

 

 

 

 

That is all

 

Dang,  this is pretty huge news - I've wanted this for years since I first heard of it. I wonder when we will get new delivery options for us Prime members? 

 

Amazon Continues Growth in Ohio with Euclid Fulfillment Center

 

New facility will employ more than 1,000 associates

SEATTLE--(BUSINESS WIRE)—Sept. 27, 2017-- Amazon.com, Inc. (NASDAQ: AMZN) today announced plans to open its fifth Ohio fulfillment center in Euclid, which will create more than 1,000 full-time positions. The company recently announced upcoming fulfillment centers in Monroe and North Randall, and it currently operates fulfillment centers in Etna and Obetz.

 

“Our growth in Ohio is the result of an outstanding workforce and incredible customers,” said Sanjay Shah, Amazon’s Vice President of North America Customer Fulfillment. “We are proud to be adding 1,000 new jobs to the more than 6,000 Amazonians already working in the state.”

 

“Amazon continues to demonstrate confidence in Ohio’s communities and people by growing throughout the state,” said JobsOhio President and Chief Investment Officer John Minor. “Amazon’s investment in Euclid will bring another new, high-tech facility and 1,000 full-time jobs to a vacant property.”

Associates at the 650,000-square-foot facility will pick, pack and ship customer items such as electronics, books, housewares and toys.

 

“We are thrilled to welcome Amazon and Seefried Industrial Properties to the City of Euclid, said City of Euclid Mayor Kirsten Holzheimer Gail. “The Euclid Square Mall site has been a prime target of our redevelopment efforts.  While some saw a vacant mall, we saw an opportunity for growth and development. This project is a fantastic addition to the investment we are seeing in our industrial corridor and will provide valuable employment opportunities for our residents. I truly appreciate the support and professionalism of Team NEO, Greater Cleveland Partnership, Cuyahoga County, the Ohio Department of Transportation, Euclid City Council and my administration for helping make this transformative project a reality.”

 

Full-time employees at Amazon receive competitive hourly wages and a comprehensive benefits package, including healthcare, 401(k) and company stock awards starting on day one.

 

“Over the last two years, we’ve been laser focused on creating jobs,” said Armond Budish, Cuyahoga County executive. “It’s very exciting to support a second Amazon distribution center, creating another 1,000 jobs for residents in the county, in addition to the 2,000 jobs at the Randall Park Mall site. These newly announced Amazon projects provide two great advantages: 3,000 new jobs and valuable repurposing of two vacant malls.”

 

Amazon also offers regular full-time employees maternity and parental leave benefits and access to innovative programs like Career Choice, where it will pre-pay up to 95 percent of tuition for courses related to in-demand fields, regardless of whether the skills are relevant to a career at Amazon. Since the program’s launch, more than 10,000 employees have pursued degrees in game design and visual communications, nursing, IT programming and radiology, to name a few.

 

“Amazon’s confidence in greater Cleveland continues,” said Joe Roman, president and CEO of the Greater Cleveland Partnership. “In the last 30 days, Amazon has committed to creating 3,000 new jobs and repurposing over 125 acres of under-utilized property. The GCP remains committed to the company’s long-term success in Northeast Ohio.”

 

To learn more about working at an Amazon fulfillment center, visit www.amazondelivers.jobs.

 

About Amazon

Amazon is guided by four principles: customer obsession rather than competitor focus, passion for invention, commitment to operational excellence, and long-term thinking. Customer reviews, 1-Click shopping, personalized recommendations, Prime, Fulfillment by Amazon, AWS, Kindle Direct Publishing, Kindle, Fire tablets, Fire TV, Amazon Echo, and Alexa are some of the products and services pioneered by Amazon. For more information, visit www.amazon.com/about and follow @AmazonNews.

MJ quickly jumps on the story.......

 

Amazon confirms plans for Euclid fulfillment center, replacing another dead mall (photos)

By Michelle Jarboe, The Plain Dealer

on September 28, 2017 at 9:00 AM, updated September 28, 2017 at 9:28 AM

 

EUCLID, Ohio - Amazon plans to bring a second fulfillment center - and 1,000 additional jobs - to Northeast Ohio, replacing another dead shopping mall with an e-commerce hub.

 

The Seattle-based company finalized a lease Wednesday on a planned 650,000-square-foot building in Euclid, on the site of the empty Euclid Square Mall. The deal coalesced barely a month after Amazon committed to its first such local project, an even larger facility set to open next year in North Randall, where Randall Park Mall once stood.

 

In its quest to deliver products to customers faster, Amazon is bulking up its presence in Ohio and other states. Two fulfillment centers opened in the Columbus area last year, about 20 miles apart - roughly the driving distance between Euclid and North Randall. And the company recently confirmed plans for a project in Monroe, between Dayton and Cincinnati.

 

MORE:

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/09/amazon_confirms_plans_for_eucl.html

This is tremendous news for Euclid.  The part of town where this will be built has been struggling for years, and hopefully many of those 1,000 jobs or so will go to nearby residents.  It would also be nice if there was some spillover effect to nearby properties and businesses, because there's a lot of available industrial land and buildings in the vicinity that could be repurposed to support the fulfillment center.  Maybe someone on here with more knowledge about the effect these types of projects have on the surrounding neighborhood can comment?  It just seems that a 1 million+ square foot building with a thousand or so employees is the type of tide that can lift all boats, but I could be wrong.

 

Euclid has been doing a good job the last five years or so capitalizing on its lakefront (which is admittedly somewhat disconnected geographically from this project).  Hopefully the tax and employment base this project brings will help the city capitalize on that momentum in the coming years.

This is tremendous news for Euclid.  The part of town where this will be built has been struggling for years, and hopefully many of those 1,000 jobs or so will go to nearby residents.  It would also be nice if there was some spillover effect to nearby properties and businesses, because there's a lot of available industrial land and buildings in the vicinity that could be repurposed to support the fulfillment center.  Maybe someone on here with more knowledge about the effect these types of projects have on the surrounding neighborhood can comment?  It just seems that a 1 million+ square foot building with a thousand or so employees is the type of tide that can lift all boats, but I could be wrong.

 

I would be very surprised if this doesn't result in additional development nearby for restaurants and shops.  Nearby food options are sure to multiply, and the food places nearby on Euclid Avenue must be very pleased; they will get plenty of additional business both during and after construction.

Well, there is already an Amazon Flex fulfillment center across the street from East 260th in Bluestone II. Bluestone I has been fully leased for a couple of years and ground was just broken on the 75k sq ft Bluestone III. Further west on St. Clair is the 25k sq ft expansion of Keene Building Products and there's also Lincoln Electric campus with the almost finished $3 million Welding Technology School

Cleveland really lucked out with Amazon. I'm not sure about other cities, but the Cincinnati/Dayton and Columbus sites are all way out in exurban greenfields. Cleveland gets two highly distressed properties completely repurposed and brought into use generating jobs and taxes in two inner ring suburbs who could really use it. All with no or minimal infrastructure investments from the public as its all in place.

 

There was a rumor before of a third location possibly on the west side. Is there precedence for a city our size having three of these? I could see the city giving up the IX center for one.

If the IX was up for sale it would immediately be bought up by amazon being adjacent to the airport. But since it's an active convention center for the bigger conventions in the region, those that are too big for Huntington, I don't see the IX being sold up anytime soon. There's practically no question that using two in such a tight vicinity is quite a test in itself. Not really confident we could support a third, but I think it would be practical to have a fulfillment center close to the airport for air freighting.

Amazon could have five facilities next to each other and it might not matter. They all do different things. If there is a west side location being discussed, it could be  a Prime Now hub to complement the Twinsburg sorting center and Euclid delivery center already running and the two new facilities just announced (noted in the PD as small package centers, bit one could be a large package pne, etc...). NEO will have exactly as many as needed to support 4MM people, to be sure. Amazon's pretty good at this!

 

As comparison, I see indianapolis, for instance, has at least 5 different amazon warehouse facilities - and they have about half NEO's population.

 

I really just can't believe these close-in mall properties have found a use. Kind of unbelievable, really, isn't it? May not win the HQ2 competition but CLE has kind of already won.

 

 

Something is moving into the former B&B Appliance building already. Think of a furniture place that recently lost their building to a fire

Northeast Factory Direct of Eastlake. Glad to see the inmigration of an employer.

Euclid close to building lakefront trail that could set a precedent in Great Lakes (photos, video)

Posted 5:59 AM November 12, 2017

By Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer

 

EUCLID, Ohio - Cleveland may be the grand poo-bah on Lake Erie, but Euclid, its third-largest suburb, is close to realizing a brilliant lakefront project that could serve as a precedent for the big city next door, if not the entire Great Lakes region.

 

After nearly a decade of spadework, Euclid could soon extend a public trail along three quarters of a mile of reconstructed shoreline on private property east of Sims Park, its main waterfront park.

 

The big idea is that in exchange for access to the land through easements, the city would take responsibility for solving erosion that threatens homes and apartment buildings.

 

MORE:

http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2017/11/euclid_close_to_building_lakef.html#incart_river_index

Here's the problem with this plan....

 

Working with design consultants from Detroit-based SmithGroupJJR, Euclid proposed to property owners that it would clean up and re-engineer the shoreline to make it erosion resistant and more habitat-friendly for wildlife, in exchange for the right to create the waterfront trail.

 

Beaches NEED erosion in order to exist, it's all a natural process called littoral drift, and it's disrupted by armoring the coastline.

 

https://revisionworld.com/sites/revisionworld.com/files/imce/longshore%20drift.jpg

 

This erosion issue really needs to be addressed across the board in a coherent statewide plan. Unfortunately Ohio seems light years away from any such solution.

 

I applaud Euclid for their efforts, there are surely some good elements to their plan. Their hearts in the right place. But it won't give us those expansive beaches that we had in the past. Sure there will be pockets of beach surrounded by piers and very unnatural looking breakwalls, but not much.

^They did engineer a good beach at Sims park

^They did engineer a good beach at Sims park

 

Well, I'm conflicted on Sims. Here's why. They did successfully collect a significant amount of sand. But the method they used required depositing all those rocks, walling off an equally significant portion of the water in the process.

 

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RCuNQBU5k0Y/UGzzEw1FZLI/AAAAAAAAGP8/aKcBZPNzYGA/s1600/P9130956.JPG

 

You see a similar thing at Presque Isle, which to me looks very unnatural - and it is. Perhaps it's a lesser of evils, but I don't know.

 

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CSq5fh4s2Rk/maxresdefault.jpg

Another Northeast Ohio dead mall bites the dust, making way for an e-commerce hub.

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/12/euclid_square_mall_demolition.html

Here's the problem with this plan....

 

Working with design consultants from Detroit-based SmithGroupJJR, Euclid proposed to property owners that it would clean up and re-engineer the shoreline to make it erosion resistant and more habitat-friendly for wildlife, in exchange for the right to create the waterfront trail.

 

Beaches NEED erosion in order to exist, it's all a natural process called littoral drift, and it's disrupted by armoring the coastline.

 

https://revisionworld.com/sites/revisionworld.com/files/imce/longshore%20drift.jpg

 

This erosion issue really needs to be addressed across the board in a coherent statewide plan. Unfortunately Ohio seems light years away from any such solution.

 

I applaud Euclid for their efforts, there are surely some good elements to their plan. Their hearts in the right place. But it won't give us those expansive beaches that we had in the past. Sure there will be pockets of beach surrounded by piers and very unnatural looking breakwalls, but not much.

 

You would think JJR would be acutely aware of that after being sued by residents of Madison Twp.  after designing the North Perry Village marina which trapped sand and disrupted littoral drift.  Instead of a sand beach, we now have a hideous riprap revetment protecting our bluff and a concrete set of stairs over the revetment to access the lake.  http://www.news-herald.com/article/hr/20141205/NEWS/141209643

 

You would think JJR would be acutely aware of that after being sued by residents of Madison Twp.  after designing the North Perry Village marina which trapped sand and disrupted littoral drift.  Instead of a sand beach, we now have a hideous riprap revetment protecting our bluff and a concrete set of stairs over the revetment to access the lake.  http://www.news-herald.com/article/hr/20141205/NEWS/141209643

 

 

What a mess. And the city has to pay for dredging the marina and dumping the dredged material at the homeowners shoreline. From the article.

 

Ondrey and Markowitz broke down the improvements as follow:

 

• A new layer of stones will be installed along the plaintiffs’ bluffs.

 

• Sand from outside the area will be moved and nourished on the plaintiff’s shorelines.

 

• The marina’s bin wall will be extended to keep the trapped sand west of the structure and not inside. This will allow an easier time for contractors to dredge the sand and move it east of the marina.

 

North Perry has been contracting sand dredging at the marina since 2011, moving it east of the marina to renourish the plaintiff’s shorelines. That agreement won’t be changing because of the settlement.

 

“They’re always going to have to keep dredging as long as the marina is there,” Markowitz said.

...

This year, the village spent $153,000 on five dredging projects.

 

Lucky for North Perry they have the nuclear plant to provide plenty of funding for such endeavors. And for paying settlements. http://www.news-herald.com/general-news/20170217/north-perrys-lake-erie-sand-dredging-lawsuit-settled

 

ESM demo is in full mode now, here are some pics and aerials from a couple of weeks ago

 

https://upliftdata.io/reports/v/8n5fK4ABU9Zt9v21ULW4-Q

I think I see Koenig's :)

 

Per Oldmanladyluck[/member]

 

Couldn't find a more appropriate thread for this.  Maybe the Higher Education thread... however, welders make good money and this could equate to more local jobs with decent incomes.

 

Lincoln Electric opens $30 million Welding Technology & Training Center in Euclid

By Olivera Perkins, The Plain Dealer [email protected]

 

EUCLID, Ohio - The Lincoln Electric Co. is counting on its new $30 million Welding Technology & Training Center to assist in closing the skills gap in that industry.

 

"We believe that we can be a catalyst," said Christopher L. Mapes, the company's chairman, president and chief executive officer, of its effort to help in alleviate the mismatch between qualified welders and the many openings that are going unfilled. "We believe that we can be viewed as a thought leader relative to the success in addressing that issue."

 

The company held a ribbon cutting Wednesday for the 130,000-square-foot, two-story facility, with expansive windows, that opened in January at its St. Clair Avenue campus. Doing something about the dearth of welders was a recurring theme at the event that included speeches by officials and tours of the state-of-the art facility.

 

More at:  http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2018/03/lincoln_electric_opens_30_mill.html