I couldn't find the complete list but PD says Cleveland ranked 19 out of 25 just behind Cincy.

 

What bullshit!  Atlanta and Seattle on the "least" list?  Puh-leeeaze!  San Diego, DC, Houston & Philly where do they rank?  Closer to the bottom, I would think!

 

If this isn't BS, I don't know what is!

Atlanta best? Yes what a joke! I can personally vouch for Miami, worst drivers on earth. A few years ago I had someone throw a battery at my car on I-95 because 80 mph wasn't fast enough for them.

^My take - if I'm in the left/passing lane going way over the limit (when I drive, I'm usually 5-8mph over and that's pushing it) and someone's on my @ss still wanting to go faster, I get out of the way. That way, they get ahead and get pulled over by the cops first. It's not my job to ensure that everyone is obeying the speed limit and if some jerkoff wants to go 100mph - as long as they're doing it away from me, it's all good.

 

I absolutely hate when I'm a passenger and someone is tailgating our car and the driver doesn't kick it in the @ss and move out of the way. It's not like the tailgater is going to have an epiphany of "hmm, gee golly - I suppose I was driving a little too fast", just because someone holds him up for a few seconds.

^ I agree and always let drivers pass in the left hand lane not matter how fast they are going. Its actually the law but its too bad not everyone obeys it. Nothing is more annoying than people who poke along in the passing lane and will not let others pass (there is an abundance of them in Miami).

 

In the incident above I was not in the left lane being it is the HOV lane at that time of day. This moron kept ridding my rear, then passed to the right and threw the battery.

Atlanta being on the 'best' list really undermines all the confidence in this survery.

The top 5 worst are extremely congested cities, take Atlanta and Seattle out of the best and I think it is on target (as for the top 5 anyway).

Atlanta best? Yes what a joke! I can personally vouch for Miami, worst drivers on earth

It's Atlanta's Southern Hospitality :D

 

I-95 in Miami is a nightmare. Miami in general is awesome though.

 

Atlanta best? Yes what a joke! I can personally vouch for Miami, worst drivers on earth

It's Atlanta's Southern Hospitality :D

 

I-95 in Miami is a nightmare. Miami in general is awesome though.

 

 

Southern hospitality my culo!

 

Miami or Miami Beach is awesome?  There is a huge difference.  ON I-95 have you ever gotten off or glanced over to see what was in the actual neighborhods around say 79, 81, 113 street, hell it's bad all the way up to the new stadium!  Its scary!

 

 

Here is the complete list:

 

Miami holds top spot on rude driver list By SARAH LARIMER, Associated Press Writer

Tue May 15, 9:07 AM ET

The list, ranked from those reporting the most incidents of road rage to the fewest:

 

1. Miami

 

2. New York

 

3. Boston

 

4. Los Angeles

 

5. Washington, D.C.

 

6. Phoenix

 

7. Chicago

 

8. Sacramento, Calif.

 

9. Philadelphia

 

10. San Francisco

 

11. Houston

 

12. Atlanta

 

13. Detroit

 

14. Minneapolis-St. Paul

 

15. Baltimore

 

16. Tampa, Fla.

 

17. San Diego

 

18. Cincinnati

 

19. Cleveland

 

20. Denver

 

21. Dallas-Ft. Worth

 

22. St. Louis

 

23. Seattle-Tacoma

 

24. Pittsburgh

 

25. Portland, Ore.

 

 

So how is Atlanta one of the most courteous cities if it's number 12 on the list?  This reminds me of the air quality rankings we were looking at a week or so ago...

Atlanta best? Yes what a joke! I can personally vouch for Miami, worst drivers on earth

It's Atlanta's Southern Hospitality :D

 

I-95 in Miami is a nightmare. Miami in general is awesome though.

 

 

Southern hospitality my culo!

 

Miami or Miami Beach is awesome?  There is a huge difference.  ON I-95 have you ever gotten off or glanced over to see what was in the actual neighborhods around say 79, 81, 113 street, hell it's bad all the way up to the new stadium!  Its scary!

 

Theres nice parts of Miami! The women there are gorgeous : D

Atlanta best? Yes what a joke! I can personally vouch for Miami, worst drivers on earth

It's Atlanta's Southern Hospitality :D

 

I-95 in Miami is a nightmare. Miami in general is awesome though.

 

 

Southern hospitality my culo!

 

Miami or Miami Beach is awesome?  There is a huge difference.  ON I-95 have you ever gotten off or glanced over to see what was in the actual neighborhods around say 79, 81, 113 street, hell it's bad all the way up to the new stadium!  Its scary!

 

Theres nice parts of Miami! The women there are gorgeous : D

 

outside of Coconut Groove, where?  Is the Gables in Miami proper?  Miami is a dump!

^ That PR Newswire I posted is more flawed than the survey itself. Nashville was not even on the survey.

 

The list is ranked from those reporting the most incidents of road rage to the fewest. It should look something like this:

 

Worst

 

1. Miami

2. New York

3. Boston

4. Los Angeles

5. Washington, D.C.

6. Phoenix

7. Chicago

8. Sacramento, Calif.

9. Philadelphia

10. San Francisco

11. Houston

12. Atlanta

 

Best

1. Portland, Ore.

2. Pittsburgh

3. Seattle-Tacoma

4. St. Louis

5. Dallas-Ft. Worth

6. Denver

7. Cleveland

8. Cincinnati

9. San Diego

10. Tampa

11. Baltimore

12. Minneapolis-St.Paul

13. Detroit

 

 

 

^^ Coral Gables is a city. The City of Miami gayborhoods of Belle Meade and Morningside are nice and so is Brickell.

 

Some of the worst parts of the city are off of I-95. Liberty City and Overtown (remember the '89 riots durning the Super Bowl) are located here. These areas make Cleveland's worst areas seem not so bad.

 

 

^^ Coral Gables is a city. The City of Miami gayborhoods of Belle Meade and Morningside are nice and so is Brickell.

 

 

 

surely you jest!  Brickell is worse that Euclid Avenue.  That is one dead strip of land!

^^ Coral Gables is a city. The City of Miami gayborhoods of Belle Meade and Morningside are nice and so is Brickell.

 

Some of the worst parts of the city are off of I-95. Liberty City and Overtown (remember the '89 riots durning the Super Bowl) are located here. These areas make Cleveland's worst areas seem not so bad.

 

 

 

overtown is horrible! In comparison, it makes garden valley look like shaker!

Seattle has the most courteous drivers I have encountered.  It definitely belongs at the bottom of the road rage list.  I disagree about Pittsburgh and Detroit drivers being on the "best" list.

This should probably be merged with the discussion in the Transportation section.

Florida's Deadly Hit-and-Run Car Culture

By Tim Padgett, Miami Sunday, Nov. 29, 2009

 

Ashley Nicole Valdes was a smart, pretty 11-year-old girl who often cared for her younger, mentally disabled sister while their single mother studied to be a paramedic. In January, while crossing the street to get to her home west of Miami, Ashley was struck and killed by a hit-and-run driver in a pickup truck — and became a heart-wrenching symbol of South Florida's notoriously reckless car culture. "You see all these people getting run over and you ask yourself: What's happened to us as people here?" says Ashley's mother, Adonay Risete. "We need to get tougher and change attitudes."

^In South Florida this is just as much a problem of of fast, reckless Caribbean driving habits and a general lack of community identity of any kind, as it is a problem of transportation policy.

People in Miami drive like maniacs. It's very much a cultural thing.

People in Miami drive like maniacs. It's very much a cultural thing.

 

I dont find South Florida drivers any different from any city with sprawling highways. LA, Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, Atlanta (those hillbillies are by far the worst), The DC-Baltimore Beltway or San Diego.  Metro NY and Philly in city drivers are just as bad.

^New York, yes. But nothing else I've ever seen in matches the Florida peninsula. I got so used to the driving culture of Florida that when I came back to Cincinnati, I was astonished at the difference.

 

 

^New York, yes. But nothing else I've ever seen in matches the Florida peninsula. I got so used to the driving culture of Florida that when I came back to Cincinnati, I was astonished at the difference.

 

Atlanta is hands down the worst.

We're talking about the mentality of drivers, not congestion. Atlanta ranks among the most courteous of drivers according to studies. When I lived in Atlanta one summer I was surprised at how friendly drivers were. They would wave at you all the time even if they didn't know you. Miami is ALWAYS considered the road rage capital. Ask any truck driver. It's not about people talking on their cell phone or beeping their horn. People in Miami love to switch lanes without notice and cut in front of you.

We're talking about the mentality of drivers, not congestion. Atlanta ranks among the most courteous of drivers according to studies. When I lived in Atlanta one summer I was surprised at how friendly drivers were. They would wave at you all the time even if they didn't know you. Miami is ALWAYS considered the road rage capital. Ask any truck driver. It's not about people talking on their cell phone or beeping their horn. People in Miami love to switch lanes without notice and cut in front of you.

 

David so am I.  Courteous drivers?  In ATL?  Please!  Those chevy driving hick are the worst.  No you ask a truck driver. This is my experience.

For what its worth, I've lived in 5 cities. Cincinnati, Columbus, Atlanta, Chicago and Orlando.

 

Orlando was by far the most aggressive, then Chicago, then a distant tie between Cincy, Columbus and Atlanta. Atlanta and Orlando had similar congestion patterns and very poor connectivity.

 

That's just my experience. I think many would agree, but everyone has a different perspective.

Columbus drivers are more passive aggressive than anything else; the turn signal is seldom used and is completely ignored when it is.

^Why no turn signals here? I hate that. Are people's arms so heavy that they can't lift them to hit the stalk?

Atlanta's drivers are some of the worst and rudest I've encountered, as are most sprawling cities.  I think it stems from frustration of having to drive so far everywhere and the horrible traffic.

Atlanta's drivers are some of the worst and rudest I've encountered, as are most sprawling cities.  I think it stems from frustration of having to drive so far everywhere and the horrible traffic.

 

Bingo!

I've only been a passenger in Atlanta, and maybe a dozen times, but I don't think their aggressiveness even comes close to that of LA drivers during rush hour or a rain storm (or the dreaded combination of BOTH).  It was terrifying driving there.  Nobody EVER lets you out if you're, say, waiting to pull out of a gas station and continue on down the road.  You just have to pull out with traffic coming at you full bore, and hope that they stop.  People do not signal when changing lanes, at best, you get the pointed hand coming out of the window AS they're changing, so you slam on the brakes and let them in.

I've only been a passenger in Atlanta, and maybe a dozen times, but I don't think their aggressiveness even comes close to that of LA drivers during rush hour or a rain storm (or the dreaded combination of BOTH).  It was terrifying driving there.  Nobody EVER lets you out if you're, say, waiting to pull out of a gas station and continue on down the road.  You just have to pull out with traffic coming at you full bore, and hope that they stop.  People do not signal when changing lanes, at best, you get the pointed hand coming out of the window AS they're changing, so you slam on the brakes and let them in.

 

ATL/Houston/Dallas are like LA drivers in Rain.  They have no idea how to drive in snow.  Its really scary!

Phoenix/Tempe. Its an absolute nightmare to drive or be a passenger in greater phoenix. You may be living life in a fantasy world in the middle of the dessert, but you need to wake up and face the real world when you get behind the wheel of an automobile.

Phoenix/Tempe. Its an absolute nightmare to drive or be a passenger in greater phoenix. You may be living life in a fantasy world in the middle of the dessert, but you need to wake up and face the real world when you get behind the wheel of an automobile.

its all those old people driving around "God's waiting room - West" AKA Phoenix!

People in Miami drive like maniacs. It's very much a cultural thing.

 

I dont find South Florida drivers any different from any city with sprawling highways. LA, Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, Atlanta (those hillbillies are by far the worst), The DC-Baltimore Beltway or San Diego. Metro NY and Philly in city drivers are just as bad.

 

lol I'm ATL based and I couldn't agree more.  Now give me the BQE anyday...  I know what to expect there

People in Miami drive like maniacs. It's very much a cultural thing.

 

I dont find South Florida drivers any different from any city with sprawling highways. LA, Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, Atlanta (those hillbillies are by far the worst), The DC-Baltimore Beltway or San Diego.  Metro NY and Philly in city drivers are just as bad.

 

lol I'm ATL based and I couldn't agree more.  Now give me the BQE anyday...  I know what to expect there

 

You poor thing, you.

People in Miami drive like maniacs. It's very much a cultural thing.

 

I dont find South Florida drivers any different from any city with sprawling highways. LA, Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, Atlanta (those hillbillies are by far the worst), The DC-Baltimore Beltway or San Diego. Metro NY and Philly in city drivers are just as bad.

 

lol I'm ATL based and I couldn't agree more. Now give me the BQE anyday... I know what to expect there

 

You poor thing, you.

 

it cool baby...  i live in brooklyn

People in Miami drive like maniacs. It's very much a cultural thing.

 

I dont find South Florida drivers any different from any city with sprawling highways. LA, Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, Atlanta (those hillbillies are by far the worst), The DC-Baltimore Beltway or San Diego.  Metro NY and Philly in city drivers are just as bad.

 

lol I'm ATL based and I couldn't agree more.  Now give me the BQE anyday...  I know what to expect there

 

You poor thing, you.

 

it cool baby...  i live in brooklyn

 

OH OK. 

People in Miami drive like maniacs. It's very much a cultural thing.

 

I dont find South Florida drivers any different from any city with sprawling highways. LA, Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, Atlanta (those hillbillies are by far the worst), The DC-Baltimore Beltway or San Diego. Metro NY and Philly in city drivers are just as bad.

 

lol I'm ATL based and I couldn't agree more. Now give me the BQE anyday... I know what to expect there

 

You poor thing, you.

 

it cool baby... i live in brooklyn

 

OH OK.

 

the nice thing about airline biz is that you don't have to live where you are based.  NY was my first crew base and I certainly wasn't going to leave it once I got there.

I'm putting my vote in for Phoenix.  That city is terrifying to drive in.  MTS, I can agree that drivers are generally rude in Atlanta, but I never felt as unsafe there as I have in Miami and Phoenix (haven't been to LA).  I think the difference is that Atlanta's general lack of a street grid keeps people from reaching top speeds and running red lights at 70mph (something I saw alarmingly frequently in Phoenix). 

 

 

I'm putting my vote in for Phoenix.  That city is terrifying to drive in.  MTS, I can agree that drivers are generally rude in Atlanta, but I never felt as unsafe there as I have in Miami and Phoenix (haven't been to LA).  I think the difference is that Atlanta's general lack of a street grid keeps people from reaching top speeds and running red lights at 70mph (something I saw alarmingly frequently in Phoenix). 

 

 

 

Unsafe in your surrounds or unsafe on the roads.  In South Florida -  i'm black and latin - I dont feel safe at  times driving.  Phoenix, I felt as the drivers had poor reflexs and generally didnt pay attention to traffic.

 

Houston and Dallas, their city streets are like the Indy 500.

I've driven in probably every major city in this country.

 

The ones that EASILY stand-out in regards to "worst" drivers (for various reasons) are Atlanta, Boston, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Miami, and Phoenix.  Also, Baltimore, for some odd reason, has horrific drivers.  The most courteous drivers were out in the Pacific Northwest and Minnesota.  New York and Los Angeles drivers are aggressive but they at least have SOME sense compared to the ones mentioned earlier.  The slowest drivers are Pittsburgh drivers (and yes, Cleveland is up there).  Columbus drivers stay in the left-lane too damn much and KOOW is right, there are no turn signals.

 

I will say, the most outrageous stuff I've ever seen, driving-wise, was in Oakland (CA) and Detroit.  Those two cities should receive gold medals for survival.

Oh, and outside the border, Toronto has horrific drivers.  Montreal, on the other hand, has wonderful drivers.

I've driven in probably every major city in this country.

 

The ones that EASILY stand-out in regards to "worst" drivers (for various reasons) are Atlanta, Boston, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Miami, and Phoenix.  Also, Baltimore, for some odd reason, has horrific drivers.  The most courteous drivers were out in the Pacific Northwest and Minnesota.  New York and Los Angeles drivers are aggressive but they at least have SOME sense compared to the ones mentioned earlier.  The slowest drivers are Pittsburgh drivers (and yes, Cleveland is up there).  Columbus drivers stay in the left-lane too damn much and KOOW is right, there are no turn signals.

 

I will say, the most outrageous stuff I've ever seen, driving-wise, was in Oakland (CA) and Detroit.  Those two cities should receive gold medals for survival.

 

I'm surprised you didn't throw DC and Philly in there.

 

Philly drivers are bad but they aren't exceptionally bad.  DC drivers are wish-washy but again, they sure ain't Atlanta!

1. Pretty much anywhere in the Southeast - too much Nascar influence.  You'd better be ready for a flow of traffic that goes 10-15 mpg above the speed limit.

 

2. I-95 in Northern Jersey - where you will find at least one a-hole weaving in and out of bumper to bumper traffic at 90 mph.

 

3. Philly - rude and aggressive... a bad combination.  The traffic signals on the side of the road (as opposed to over the road) doesn't help.

1. Northeast Atlanta 

2. North Atlanta 

3. Northwest Atlanta

LA was the worst I've experienced.  As I remember any little thing, like trying to merge getting onto the highway, resulted in someone wanting to fight.  And I was going with the flow of traffic!