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Starting today Laketran extends weekday service hours to...9 pm! Go shopping and dining, paint the town red! Okay, it's Lake County 🥴, but any increase is good. Next step: midnight. 

 

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  • PlanCleveland
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    Laketran is pretty lucky with the area they serve. It's an extremely ideal set up for a smaller transit organization.    I've got a bunch of numbers sitting in spreadsheets from looking into

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    Two new Laketran routes begin service in September--    

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Bus service between Newark and Granville, including a stop at Denison, coming in October:

 

https://news.yahoo.com/bus-between-newark-granville-including-100324302.html

 

I recall hearing discussion about fixed route busses (finally) coming to Licking County, but I didn't realize they already started service along Main St in Newark. Unfortunately it does look like getting downtown (or to the groceries on 21st) requires a transfer at Tamarack...and no bus routes to Columbus yet. But it's a start.

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BCRTA has a separate page on their website dedicated to their new CincyLink service, the replacement for SORTA's 42X. They recently uploaded specific route details and sent out an email to subscribers yesterday showing off the new bus stop signs. Something I didn't see the last time I was on the website is the "Guaranteed Ride Home Program:"
 

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The Butler County Regional Transit Authority Guaranteed Ride Home Program ensures peace of mind for CincyLink commuters by providing a reliable ride home when an unexpected emergency or unplanned overtime occurs during a normal work day. Riders can call the BCRTA Customer Service Center to request a ride and BCRTA will schedule and pay for an Uber to pick- you up. Only trips from work to home, a hospital, daycare facility, school, or to a park-and-ride facility are covered. Riders can utilize the Guaranteed Ride Home program up to four times in a 12-month calendar period. Please call customer service at 513.785.5237 for questions or to book a ride.

 

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1 hour ago, KJP said:

Uh oh....

 

SARTA to eliminate 5 bus routes, lay off up to 30 due to deteriorating revenue

https://www.cantonrep.com/story/news/local/stark-county/2024/11/21/sarta-to-eliminate-five-bus-routes-lay-off-up-to-30/76458463007/

Here's some good local news out of Lake County. Laketran seems to be doing well - maybe RTA can send some spies over the border to see how they it.

https://laketran.com/laketran-earns-perfect-score-on-wide-ranging-federal-audit/

 

4 hours ago, Willo said:

Here's some good local news out of Lake County. Laketran seems to be doing well - maybe RTA can send some spies over the border to see how they it.

https://laketran.com/laketran-earns-perfect-score-on-wide-ranging-federal-audit/

 

Laketran is pretty lucky with the area they serve. It's an extremely ideal set up for a smaller transit organization. 

 

I've got a bunch of numbers sitting in spreadsheets from looking into stuff for fun and setting up the commuter line we all know should exist out to Painesville. 

 

About 197k of Lake Counties 232k population lives west of the Bacon Rd area. If you ignore the less dense areas south of I90 in that same area, about 173k live there on 87 sq miles, or about 2000 per sq mile. Which is the same density as Hamilton County. That area also has around 70-75k jobs. Most conveniently running right through the middle of this zone. 

 

They only have 1 non park n ride bus that exits this zone, outside of most busses making a stop at Lakeland just south of 90. That bus is hourly from Painesville to North Madison, which has 8k on less than 4 sq miles. 

 

Just imagine how much more effective their already good system could be if the commuter line out to Painesville existed which runs right through the center of their focus area. They would only have to make minor routing tweaks to hit any rail stops. No one lives more than 2-3 miles from the rail. People in Lake County could use it to hit all of the job hubs along the line, or to get to Cleveland for events/work, or going out in Downtown Willoughby. People in Cuyahoga could also use it for work or day trips.

 

Great Lakes Mall is right off the line and all of the jobs along Tyler Blvd. There are 50+ acres of land or empty parking lots in the mall area that could be filled with housing. The old ABB, I believe, site and parking in Wickliffe on Worden is another 40 acres to build on right on the line as well. Then 240 more empty acres in Mentor/Painesville behind Diamond Center where they've already built 2 apartment complexes and a huge housing development. With barely adding any infrastructure by just building some transit focused development on those 3 sites, just building at 12-15 people/acre with some retail, they could add 5,000 people to the County. For reference, the Cobblestone Court apartments in Diamond Center are around 20 people/acre. 

 

Sorry for dumping all of that information on you haha. But I have the numbers sitting around, might as well share them. 

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1 hour ago, PlanCleveland said:

Laketran is pretty lucky with the area they serve. It's an extremely ideal set up for a smaller transit organization. 

 

I've got a bunch of numbers sitting in spreadsheets from looking into stuff for fun and setting up the commuter line we all know should exist out to Painesville. 

 

About 197k of Lake Counties 232k population lives west of the Bacon Rd area. If you ignore the less dense areas south of I90 in that same area, about 173k live there on 87 sq miles, or about 2000 per sq mile. Which is the same density as Hamilton County. That area also has around 70-75k jobs. Most conveniently running right through the middle of this zone. 

 

They only have 1 non park n ride bus that exits this zone, outside of most busses making a stop at Lakeland just south of 90. That bus is hourly from Painesville to North Madison, which has 8k on less than 4 sq miles. 

 

Just imagine how much more effective their already good system could be if the commuter line out to Painesville existed which runs right through the center of their focus area. They would only have to make minor routing tweaks to hit any rail stops. No one lives more than 2-3 miles from the rail. People in Lake County could use it to hit all of the job hubs along the line, or to get to Cleveland for events/work, or going out in Downtown Willoughby. People in Cuyahoga could also use it for work or day trips.

 

Great Lakes Mall is right off the line and all of the jobs along Tyler Blvd. There are 50+ acres of land or empty parking lots in the mall area that could be filled with housing. The old ABB, I believe, site and parking in Wickliffe on Worden is another 40 acres to build on right on the line as well. Then 240 more empty acres in Mentor/Painesville behind Diamond Center where they've already built 2 apartment complexes and a huge housing development. With barely adding any infrastructure by just building some transit focused development on those 3 sites, just building at 12-15 people/acre with some retail, they could add 5,000 people to the County. For reference, the Cobblestone Court apartments in Diamond Center are around 20 people/acre. 

 

Sorry for dumping all of that information on you haha. But I have the numbers sitting around, might as well share them. 

Excellent data dump that squares with our life-long memories of the area.  We are currenlty amazed at the number of people who rely on the services having to wait along streets in Lake County at pole-only bus stops (no covered structures) and also the number of seniors who use the door to appointment door senior transport service (though we are told they are long bus rides similar to a student school bus that does pick-ups and drop-offs along the way). Your data supports why we have long thought the Windermere Red Line could easily be extended in this direction.

One last thought - regarding Great Lakes Mall we are hoping developer Sam Petros and son who bought the Sears store and out parcel portions (20 acres and 1,000 surface parking spots) last winter don't sit and admire the bauble too long as they say in their related Instagram pose.  Not sure if their portfolio has included highter-density mixed-use projects.  Let's hope so to include making a dent in removing the seemingly endless pavement. 

https://www.instagram.com/crainscleveland/p/C2VN70vL9UR/

 

24 minutes ago, Willo said:

Excellent data dump that squares with our life-long memories of the area.  We are currenlty amazed at the number of people who rely on the services having to wait along streets in Lake County at pole-only bus stops (no covered structures) and also the number of seniors who use the door to appointment door senior transport service (though we are told they are long bus rides similar to a student school bus that does pick-ups and drop-offs along the way). Your data supports why we have long thought the Windermere Red Line could easily be extended in this direction.

One last thought - regarding Great Lakes Mall we are hoping developer Sam Petros and son who bought the Sears store and out parcel portions (20 acres and 1,000 surface parking spots) last winter don't sit and admire the bauble too long as they say in their related Instagram pose.  Not sure if their portfolio has included highter-density mixed-use projects.  Let's hope so to include making a dent in removing the seemingly endless pavement. 

https://www.instagram.com/crainscleveland/p/C2VN70vL9UR/

 

Ya some of the stops are just a pole stuck in the grass along a road where people are driving 50 mph. Pretty ridiculous, especially when almost ever line is once an hour. 

 

Oh wow I hadn't even heard about that Sears land purchase. I've thought the Great Lakes Mall, and strip mall across the street, have better potential than any other mall or shopping center in the region. It's not dead, yet, and there is just so much land available to develop if they start building 4-5 story housing in the parking lots. Senior housing would be extremely popular there. 

 

That area could become an extremely prosperous city within a city, especially if a commuter line were to exist across the street. 

6 hours ago, PlanCleveland said:

Ya some of the stops are just a pole stuck in the grass along a road where people are driving 50 mph. Pretty ridiculous, especially when almost ever line is once an hour. 

 

Oh wow I hadn't even heard about that Sears land purchase. I've thought the Great Lakes Mall, and strip mall across the street, have better potential than any other mall or shopping center in the region. It's not dead, yet, and there is just so much land available to develop if they start building 4-5 story housing in the parking lots. Senior housing would be extremely popular there. 

 

That area could become an extremely prosperous city within a city, especially if a commuter line were to exist across the street. 

I’ve contacted my city council rep, Ohio reps, and Laketran a few times about mixed use/TODs, rail, and better bus stops a few times. No luck

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