They won't show the Oakland game in Cincinnati on Sunday. Where can i find a place that shows that game or stream online?

Holy Grail will have it. Really any bar with a Sunday Ticket...

Poor Palmer.. ouch.

Great news for the Bengals.  If they draft Trent Richardson and start out the season next year 10-0, maybe they can stop the blackout streak??

 

The "streak" will end at 7 as Pittsburgh is the next home game (Nov. 13th).

 

And it's official: Steelers game is a sellout

Can't believe they robbed the Bengals of a TD. He broke the plane before he went out of bounds.

I don't like the way they are calling that play now, but the call was 'technically' correct according to the current rules.  'Breaking the plane' would only apply in a situation where the player had full control of the ball and had made a 'football move' prior to crossing the goalline

I bet you it was a catch If it was at the 50 yard line.  It wouldn't be a fumble since the ground can't cause one.

Like I said, it sucks.  But it's not a catch no matter where he grabbed it.  It isn't a fumble because it wasn't a catch and you can't fumble an incompletion.  It's a new wrinkle in the rules.  In the most simplest terms, if a receiver makes a catch in the process of falling to the ground, without making some type of move in between and regardless if somehow his two feet touch the ground first, he has to control the ball through the entire fall including the impact with the ground. 

all i know is he had two feet inbounds. The third foot landed out of bounds before he hit the ground.

it was the right call based on the rule. but the rule is as dumb as the "tuck" rule. both need to be eliminated immediately. it was pretty obviously a catch... except for the rule says it isn't.

Just saw the play in question.  That call was total BS.  Bengals got screwed.  What's the difference between that play and when a player lunges over/stretch and extends the ball across the goal line only to lose control of the ball in the end zone?? It's still ruled a TD! 

Not sure ho to explain it any other way.  He didn't "lose control" because, technically, he never had control according to the current rule.  That's what separates it from "breaking the plane of the endzone" when you ALREADY have ESTABLISHED control.  If you go up in the air to make a catch and fall to the ground, it is NOT a catch unless you control the ball through hitting the ground REGARDLESS IF YOU'RE TWO FEET TOUCHED THE GROUND.  A few years ago, that would be a TD.  Not this year.

How did he not maintain control of the ball though? He had a catch, fell to the ground, and brought the ball into his body.  It's not like he dropped the ball after breaking the plane...if anything there was a very slight movement when the ball touched the ground as he was bringing the ball into his body.

Not sure ho to explain it any other way.  He didn't "lose control" because, technically, he never had control according to the current rule.  That's what separates it from "breaking the plane of the endzone" when you ALREADY have ESTABLISHED control.  If you go up in the air to make a catch and fall to the ground, it is NOT a catch unless you control the ball through hitting the ground REGARDLESS IF YOU'RE TWO FEET TOUCHED THE GROUND.  A few years ago, that would be a TD.  Not this year.

 

I understand the rule clearly.  Just saying it's completely BS.

How did he not maintain control of the ball though? He had a catch, fell to the ground, and brought the ball into his body.  It's not like he dropped the ball after breaking the plane...if anything there was a very slight movement when the ball touched the ground as he was bringing the ball into his body.

 

It was the "if anything".  When the ground moves the balls in any way, the ruling will be that he lost control of the ball. 

 

The Calvin Johnson rule

If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete

 

There certainly are a lot of people who think the rule is flawed and the effect it had on the Bengals Ravens game will likely become a rallying cry.  Just google it.

 

He was out of bounds when it happened not in the field of play. His 3rd foot down out of bounds with the ball in control should have made the TD instant. Screwed up rules.

This is what you get from a sport that changes its rules every week in the name of leveling the playing field - boring, melodramatic games in which the most interesting and exciting detail is a ball moving a centimeter or two after a touchdown catch.

Man, it was strange almost never seeing the 50-yard line on TV this week. Nobody could get past their own 40.

From today's game.  This Jerome Simpson play was amazing!

 

Jerome Simpson Front Flip Touchdown

 

I also heard something about the Bengals being 9-6 and possibly making the playoffs?  But that must be an urban legend.

That was awesome. Love it.

 

In other Bengals news, Mike Brown is now almost 100% owner of the team. Coincidentally (or not), the game after that announcement had almost record-low attendance.

 

Mothaf*ck Mike Brown. I hope attendance remains low. He is 100% of the reason.

Cincinnati Bengals sell out final regular season game

 

The Cincinnati Bengals vs. Baltimore Ravens game on New Year's Day is a sellout, thanks to a discount ticket offer made this week to Bengals season ticket holders.

 

Bengals.com reports that the game has been declared a sellout and will be televised on CBS affiliates WKRC-TV Channel 12 in Cincinnati, WHIO-TV Channel 7 in Dayton and WKYT-TV Channel 27 in Lexington.

 

The game, which could send the Bengals to the playoffs, has been moved to 4:15 p.m.

 

MORE: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2011/12/28/bengals-sell-out-sundays-game-against.html

Cincinnati Bengals sell out final regular season game

 

The Cincinnati Bengals vs. Baltimore Ravens game on New Year's Day is a sellout, thanks to a discount ticket offer made this week to Bengals season ticket holders.

 

Bengals.com reports that the game has been declared a sellout and will be televised on CBS affiliates WKRC-TV Channel 12 in Cincinnati, WHIO-TV Channel 7 in Dayton and WKYT-TV Channel 27 in Lexington.

 

The game, which could send the Bengals to the playoffs, has been moved to 4:15 p.m.

 

MORE: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2011/12/28/bengals-sell-out-sundays-game-against.html

 

Wow.  While something like that has happened with the Stoolers, it's unimaginable with the Browns.  A game that would send them to the playoffs would have the scalpers making fortunes.

 

The team will never sustain success with Mike Brown in charge.

Yeah..... I have so much trouble understanding this, ownership issues or not.

Yeah..... I have so much trouble understanding this, ownership issues or not.

 

What’s hard to understand? Even at buy-one get-one free prices I won’t give a penny to Mike Brown.  I’ve been a Bengals fan my entire life and I was perfectly content watching them win via online streaming.  In fact, I was giddy at streaming the games in a rebellion against the NFL for their regulated blackmail, but that’s another discussion.

 

I won’t buy a single ticket until Mike Brown hires a general manager to replace himself.  He’s fine as an owner, but he shouldn’t be running the team as intimately as he does.  Picture it this way, if any other team had a general manager produce 2 winning seasons in 20 years, he’d have been fired 15 years ago.  Mike Brown just kept at it.  To put it into perspective, if the Ravens moved back to Cleveland, how excited would you be to buy a ticket?

 

Anyway, this article puts it into words better than I could:

 

Bengals' ticket problem isn't shortage of fans, it's the owner

 

 

Cheap tickets from a cheap franchise

by Jim Litke

Published December 27, 2011

 

The Cincinnati Bengals haven't been anywhere near the vanguard of the NFL for two decades now, a stretch that began not coincidentally when club founder Paul Brown died and son Mike took over.

 

Yet the Bengals might be again — for all the wrong reasons — if a mild downturn in league-wide attendance since 2007 becomes a trend.

 

The team's 65,500-seat stadium, named in Paul Brown's honor but financed by taxpayers, was less than two-thirds full Saturday as the team locked up just its third winning season in the last 21 years. Hoping to head off an even more embarrassing number of no-shows when Baltimore visits Sunday with a playoff berth on the line for Cincinnati, the team and players are practically begging fans to come.

 

 

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/12/27/column-cheap-tickets-from-cheap-franchise/?cmpid=cmty_email_Gigya_Column%3A_Cheap_tickets_from_a_cheap_franchise#ixzz1i4RklFrb

Yeah..... I have so much trouble understanding this, ownership issues or not.

 

Ticket prices are coming down for next year, which should help with the attendence issues a lot.  The article I was reading about it said that upper deck seats (and the cheapest) at Bengals games are $60, while the upper deck seats at Browns games are around $32.  When you have a team with such a shitty history, coming off a terrible year last year (after 58 or so consecutive sellouts), expensive tickets, a down economy, and a general hatred for the ownership, you're pretty much only going to get the die hard fans showing up at games.  Next year should be better for a number of reasons.

Congrats Bengals. In the Playoffs for the 3rd time in 8 years and  not 21 like the Newspaper likes to point out.

 

You're basically right.

 

1990, 2005, 2009 & 2011. 4 playoff trips over 22 seasons.

 

They are saying 3rd time in 21 years, which is a factually correct, but very misleading statement.  It implies 21 years ago we went, and then since then there was one other trip, and then this trip.  That is not correct.

 

They went in 1990, 2005, 2009 and now 2011. So the correct way to say it should be either 3rd trip in 7 years, 4th trip in 22 years,  or finally, 2nd trip in 3 years! which really sounds good!

 

 

It'd be better if it felt like they deserved to be there. They aren't a good team, but the other AFC teams who didn't make it are worse.

 

The good thing is they have loads and loads of potential, given so many rookies/young players. Also first round picks coming up.

Yeah..... I have so much trouble understanding this, ownership issues or not.

 

Whats hard to understand? Even at buy-one get-one free prices I wont give a penny to Mike Brown.  Ive been a Bengals fan my entire life and I was perfectly content watching them win via online streaming.  In fact, I was giddy at streaming the games in a rebellion against the NFL for their regulated blackmail, but thats another discussion.

 

I wont buy a single ticket until Mike Brown hires a general manager to replace himself.  Hes fine as an owner, but he shouldnt be running the team as intimately as he does.  Picture it this way, if any other team had a general manager produce 2 winning seasons in 20 years, hed have been fired 15 years ago.  Mike Brown just kept at it.  To put it into perspective, if the Ravens moved back to Cleveland, how excited would you be to buy a ticket?

 

Anyway, this article puts it into words better than I could:

 

Bengals' ticket problem isn't shortage of fans, it's the owner

 

 

 

It's still just unimagineable to me.  People here genuinely hate Randly Lerner too.  Remember, it was his family's jet that flew Modell to Baltiwhore.  And he certainly has a much more keen interest in his soccer team in England than he does with the Browns.  He and his father have hired terrible coaches and even worse general managers.  We had the #1 pick in the draft two years in a row and ended up with Tim Couch and Courtney Brown.  We also took Gerard Warren over Richard Seymour...... David Vekune one spot ahead of Shady McCoy..... we traded a future first rounder for Brady Quinn..... spent high first round picks on knuckleheads Kellen Winslow and Braylon Edwards..... and our locker room and training facility has ended more careers (through staph infections) than the Browns care to mention. 

 

All that said, if the Browns were made the playoffs, season ticket holders and ticket brokers would be making an absolute KILLING right now.  We're talking 3x face value without even flinching. 

This paragraph is key:

 

And enough is enough. Bengals fans have made a principled stand, but not against the 53 players on roster. They have made their stand against Mike Brown, who used this area's passion for football against it, getting a stadium deal that hasn't enriched the area but has helped cripple it. Public schools and law enforcement departments are laying off people left and right, in part because they aren't getting the tax money they need. Why? The biggest reason -- seriously, the very biggest reason -- is because the Bengals are getting that tax money instead.

Browns fans aren't so principled, I guess.

^That and Browns tickets are way cheaper than Bengals tickets...

The stadium deal is at the front of everyone's mind, especially during the recession. A lot of the economic woes of the recession get blamed on Mike Brown, and not entirely unreasonably. It's a thorn in the side of the county, and it goes way beyond the sports world.

 

The local media doesn't let us forget it, either. Nor should they, really. It's a perpetual problem.

^That and Browns tickets are way cheaper than Bengals tickets...

 

Oh.... I wouldn't say "way cheaper".  A few bucks at the moment and that fluctuates from year to year.  But regardless, the point is they WOULDN'T be cheaper by a long shot if they could get their sh!te together and make the playoffs like the Bengals did this year.

 

And I don't want to hear any cwap about a stadium ;).  We got a stadium without a roof plopped right down on our lakefront which we had to pay an arm and a leg for just to get the Browns back.

^The cheapest tickets in the entire stadium at Bengals' games are $65 http://www.bengals.com/tickets/stadium-map-and-ticket-pricing.html

 

The cheapest tickets at Browns games are $35, with other sections available for $40 and $45 http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/tickets/seating-information.html

 

A $30 swing is more than just "a few bucks", and it makes the games cost prohibitive for many people.  The only people who are going to be willing to pay that much money to see a team that everyone thought was going to be lucky to win a couple games this year, coming off of such a disappointing season last year, and with the general hatred towards the ownership are the diehards.  I suspect if Cleveland had similar circumstances, the situation would be largely the same.  Cincinnati went nuts in '05 when the Bengals finally made it to the playoffs after such a long drought.  The sellout streak continued then through the '09 playoff team, and even the abysmal '10 season.  The novelty of a .500 team that reaches the playoffs and leaves in the first round has kind of worn off around here, and given the low expectations for this season, the spotty attendence shouldn't be surprising.

The day Paul Brown Stadium opened, we had a bus from the bar go to the game.  They actually ran out of space for all the buses, mostly from northern Ohio.  The attendance was about 1/3 Browns fans, and a good portion of the rest was Kentucky fans wearing #2 (Couch) jerseys.  Our section was 2/3 Browns fans.  I almost felt bad for the guy in the Bungles jersey who kept standing up, turning around as if to egg on the section, and seeing that sea of Seal Brown.

 

The classic Mike Brown story:  In the 1999 draft, the Browns took Tim Couch and flew him to Cleveland on Al Lerner's plane.  The Eagles took Donovan McNabb and limoed him to Philly.  The Bengals took Akili Smith, and sent him an airline ticket.  Coach.  His agent upgraded it to first class.

 

Oh, I don't think we hate Randy Lerner here.  If anything we think he's too aloof, but Miser Mike gives us an example of how the opposite is way worse.

^^have you ever sat at the top of Browns stadium in mid December with the wind coming off the lake.  At least $30 is taken out of your arse.  But thanks for posting the greater disparity in low end tickets, which shows that any disparity in overall average is really probably none at all once you eliminate the cheap seats.  I suppose it just goes back to the fact that Cincy is more of a baseball town.  Cle is as fair weather as it gets with the Indians.  Political leanings also seem to play a part as Cincy's conservative network surely beats the drum about the financial dealings with Mike Brown and keeps it front and center

^^have you ever sat at the top of Browns stadium in mid December with the wind coming off the lake.  At least $30 is taken out of your arse.

 

Or is spent on pregame "antifreeze".  :)

^^have you ever sat at the top of Browns stadium in mid December with the wind coming off the lake.  At least $30 is taken out of your arse.  But thanks for posting the greater disparity in low end tickets, which shows that any disparity in overall average is really probably none at all once you eliminate the cheap seats.  I suppose it just goes back to the fact that Cincy is more of a baseball town.  Cle is as fair weather as it gets with the Indians.  Political leanings also seem to play a part as Cincy's conservative network surely beats the drum about the financial dealings with Mike Brown and keeps it front and center

 

Here are the average ticket prices for individual games, updated weekly: http://seatgeek.com/football-nfl-ticket-prices/

 

Overall, the average Bengal ticket is $100.49 and the average Brown ticket is $68.73.

 

It makes a difference.  I wouldn't mind taking my girlfriend out to a game if I was spending under $100 on the entire day.  But when it's more like $150+, that is pushing it.  That's why I went to UC games instead.

You're missing the point completely.  IF the Browns were winning and IF the Browns were in the playoffs, it wouldn't make one bit of difference in terms of their ability to sell out.  It might make a difference in terms of what demographic would attend the games more frequently, but they would EASILY sell out.

 

BTW, the Browns were at $83 to start the season - http://seatgeek.com/blog/nfl/average-nfl-ticket-prices-after-week-1-2011.  It was probably only because of their awful showing that the prices dropped.

One and done.

I think the Bengals are an up-and-coming team, and most teams that are new to the playoffs usually lose their first playoff game. Of course, in today's game, the Texans were in the same playoff-newbie situation as the Bengals and the home team won. The Bengals will be back next year with more experience. If they load up on fast, strong linebackers and defense linemen, they will go deeper in the playoffs.

^Won't get past the first round as long as Marvin Lewis is still the head coach.

Cincy complains a lot about their sports teams. I was in DC last week and someone said trying being a Washington FAN. They win at NOTHING among ALL their teams.

^Won't get past the first round as long as Marvin Lewis is still the head coach.

 

I think your owner is a bigger problem than Marvin Lewis.

As much as I hate to say it..... they'll be back.  Not sure how much tread Benson has left on the tires given the short shelf life of big backs like him, but the Red Rifle and your recieving core is only going to get better, as well as the offensive line.  I did expect more out of your defense yesterday, but won't judge them on one game.

 

I would be REAL hesitant to blow it all up by firing Lewis, especially after this season.  There might be nothing more valuable in the NFL than continuity (see Browns and their utter lack of it)

Don't we have a few great draft picks coming up next year?

The Bengals are definitely an up-and-coming team, but they benefited a bit from a soft schedule this year due to finishing last in the division last year and playing the NFC West/AFC South.  Next year their schedule will be markedly more difficult and I wouldn't count and having such an easy time obtaining a wild card spot if I were a Bengals fan.  Long-term though, the franchise has set itself up nicely.

Don't we have a few great draft picks coming up next year?

 

I think you will at least have your own first round pick (approx. the 20th overall) and you will have Oakland's too(?) (which should be in the mid-teens)