April 25, 200817 yr Standing pat this year is NOT a bad move. If the Browns can shore up the secondary, great. Also, another RB wouldn't be bad either. Who said they are standing pat?
April 25, 200817 yr Standing pat this year is NOT a bad move. If the Browns can shore up the secondary, great. Also, another RB wouldn't be bad either. Who said they are standing pat? I did. As it stands, they really can't do much w/the draft. When their first pick, round three? I guess you could get someone there, but it's not going to be a superstar, most likely.
April 25, 200817 yr ^ Josh Cribbs was undrafted and is a Pro-Bowler, isn't he? I listened to the draft on WTAM and WKNR last year, and it was incredibly exciting how it unfolded. I hope that someone busts out that audio of when the Browns were suddenly on the clock with the 22nd pick. One of the stations was doing a live remote at a bar, and the place ERUPTED when that happened.
April 25, 200817 yr Standing pat this year is NOT a bad move. If the Browns can shore up the secondary, great. Also, another RB wouldn't be bad either. Who said they are standing pat? I did. As it stands, they really can't do much w/the draft. When their first pick, round three? I guess you could get someone there, but it's not going to be a superstar, most likely. Their first pick is in the 4th round. Last time I checked, there were plenty of great players drafted on the second day. Also, just because they're a first day pick doesn't mean they're going to be good.. there are thousands of 1st day busts. You have to trade picks wisely. You cannot continually trade future picks, because at some point you will get burned by lack of young talent. Also, the cost of acquiring a pick is MUCH more costly than it ever has been. I would like to see them move up in the 4th round, but unless it's moving into the 3rd, I think they'd be fools to move into rounds 1-2, unless it's a complete steal.
April 27, 200817 yr While it's true that you can find some gems in the lower rounds or even free agency, you're more likely to hit some big-time players in the first round -- and certainly with the first two picks overall. But even that doesn't guarantee a big-time player.... Of the #1 picks in the last 40 NFL drafts, 17 of them never made it to the Pro Bowl. http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/alltimeno1 And, of the #2 picks overall in the last 40 drafts, 19 never made it to a single Pro Bowl. http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/alltimeno2 Food for thought... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 27, 200817 yr The Browns got two four round picks - Beau Bell, the LB from UNLV that they wanted, and Martin Rucker, a TE out of Missouri.
April 27, 200817 yr From the Browns website --- Browns trade again, get Rucker Jeff Walcoff, Staff Writer 04.27.2008 Surprise, surprise. The Browns ended up with not one but two fourth-round picks in the 2008 NFL Draft. The club made another deal, trading their 2009 third-round pick to the Dallas Cowboys for the 111th overall selection to draft Missouri tight end Martin Rucker. Rucker is an extensively experienced tight end who was at the center of the Tigers' offense in 2007, pulling in 84 receptions for 834 yards and 8 touchdowns. He broke the school's record for catches in a season and led the nation in receptions per game by a tight end. Overall in his career, he started a school record 50 games, making 203 catches for 2,175 yards and 18 scores. Rucker's brother, Mike, was a Pro Bowl defensive lineman for the Carolina Panthers who was a second-round pick in 1999. He announced his retirement on April 22.
April 27, 200817 yr And also --- Browns trade up, get Bell Jeff Walcoff, Staff Writer 04.27.2008 In the end, Phil Savage couldn't wait. The Browns traded up to the 104th pick at the 2008 NFL Draft to select UNLV linebacker Beau Bell. The team was slated to pick 122nd before dealing with the Cowboys to move up. Bell (6-1, 239), an inside linebacker prospect,was a tackling machine at UNLV, making 320 tackles in his career, including 126 as a senior. In his career, he managed 27 tackles for loss and 10.5 sacks.
April 30, 200817 yr Cleveland Browns claim safety and sign 15 undrafted free agents Posted by Tony Grossi Plain Dealer Reporter April 30, 2008 15:05PM The Browns announced they signed 15 undrafted free agents and will invite an unspecified number to their weekend minicamp on a tryout basis. The team also claimed safety Steve Cargile via waivers from the Denver Broncos. Cargile is a native of Cleveland who graduated from Chanel High School and Columbia University. He was signed as an undrafted free agent in 2004 by Dallas and played the past two years with Denver. More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 30, 200817 yr defense...defense so what do you kids think of the draft and the aforementioned talent signed?
April 30, 200817 yr Sounds like an OK draft. Dr. Z says pretty much what others have said... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/dr_z/04/28/draft.roundup/1.html I'm not wild about these Seattle Seahawks: I can find only three interesting names, DE Lawrence Jackson and Notre Dame TE John Carlson at the top, and then a drop to the fifth round for a peek at 250-pound fullback Owen Schmitt. San Diego Chargers: Not their fault. Only five total picks. I'll say this -- opportunistic corner Antoine Cason. Then I'll say goodbye. Cleveland Browns: The first of five choices starts at round four with LB Bo Bell. They say he's mean. I know why. He's lonely. Earlier deals for DT Shawn Rogers (Lions) and DE Corey Williams (Packers) took their toll, which wouldn't be so bad, except that Cleveland had to throw in a gifted corner, Leigh Bodden, and I don't think that was such a good idea. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 4, 200817 yr I have a couple of questions (actually both are all similar): why did Savidge get contract extension? Why did Romeo get one too? What have the Browns won? If neither contract was due to expire, what's the hurry in getting these new deals done? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 4, 200817 yr I'm not sure I agree either. I think all the pieces of the puzzle have fallen into place and we're seeing the past two/three years of aggravation pay off. I think a one year extension would have been fine, but may the browns are thinking, why mess with a consistent formula? The (4-5 year) tide of winning teams is swinging and the Browns are apart of the upswing.
May 8, 200817 yr http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2008/05/belichick_taped_browns_game_in.html Belichick taped Browns game in 2001 Posted by Tony Grossi Plain Dealer Reporter May 08, 2008 11:25AM A Boston newspaper is reporting Bill Belichick cheated in a game against the Browns in 2001.
May 11, 200817 yr I so saw Romeo last night. He's short. So where did you see "humpty dumpty"? Foundation Room at HOB.
May 14, 200817 yr This gets me excitied... --- Cleveland Browns OTAs are off and running Posted by Tony Grossi Plain Dealer Reporter May 14, 2008 14:04PM
May 21, 200817 yr I'll miss Ted Washington at training camp. It was always fun to watch him doing absolutely nothing and being amused by all the activity around him. We'll miss Orpheus Roye too. Last year some of us noted that he was wearing the same reggae-pattern T-shirt for several practices in a row. We asked Mary Kay to ask him about it and the next session he had changed it...
May 21, 200817 yr So I heard on the radio this morning that Daven Holly suffered a "serious" knee injury in practice yesterday... I believe that leaves us with 2 corners on our roster that have a grand total of about (2 years... or 18 games) worth of experience. Neat.
May 21, 200817 yr With Daven Holly lost for the year with a severe knee injury suffered at Tuesday's practice, Brandon McDonald took over as the starting cornerback opposite Eric Wright. McDonald moved inside to cover the slot receiver in sub packages. Safety Mike Adams also had some reps in the slot. Filling that important position probably will influence whom the Browns acquire to replace Holly's roster spot. It may too tough a task for McDonald to ascend to a starting role and learn the new position -- to him -- of covering the slot. F*CK
May 22, 200817 yr Cleveland Browns must trade for a cornerback Tony Grossi Plain Dealer Reporter May 22, 2008 10:48AM The Browns' cornerback situation is at a crisis stage. Fortunately for them, it's early enough to resolve. But the team cannot realistically expect to compete for the AFC North title, and beyond, with a starting tandem of Eric Wright and Brandon McDonald and Jereme Perry as the third cornerback. More at http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2008/05/cleveland_browns_must_trade_fo.html
June 2, 200817 yr Very cool article from Cali: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Five Simple Reasons The Cleveland Browns Are The NFL's Best Franchise by Jim Cantrell June 01, 2008 Professional football, as we know it, came into existence in 1920, with the founding of the American Professional Football Association. The league changed its name to the National Football League two years later, and the landscape of American sports has never been the same. Since that monumental year, there have been several debates as to which team and community could claim the mantle of the NFL's best franchise. More at http://www.bleacherreport.com/articles/26553-Five-Simple-Reasons-The-Cleveland-Browns-Are-The-NFL-s-Best-Franchise
June 11, 200817 yr Nice article. I was one of those who fought to keep the Browns. I had a fax machine at home and used it to fax the NFL every few days. Neighbors and family used my fax machine, as well, to fax their own letters. And I don't vote very often, but I did in November 1995 to extend the sin tax for what was then proposed to be a renovated Cleveland stadium. I'm also not as worried about the cornerback situation as Grossi is. I hope I'm not proven wrong once some of our preseason games get underway and we see how these guys do in game situations! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 11, 200817 yr I don't vote very often How's come, KJP? I would think a person as active in the community as you would vote every chance they got.
June 11, 200817 yr Thanks, but it's because I'm too close to the political scene and I see how awfully eager many of our elected officials are willing to become political whores. They have few if any principles and even fewer morals. This is especially true at the state and federal levels. So if you keep going to a store and the choices of merchandise are lousy, sooner or later you get disgusted and stop going to that store. Problem is, there's no other store..... Back to football. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 11, 200817 yr He wants to be a starter somewhere.. I can't blame him, but still.. he took all that money from the Browns and "boo hoo, I might have to be a back up, let me go."
June 11, 200817 yr He wants to be a starter somewhere.. I can't blame him, but still.. he took all that money from the Browns and "boo hoo, I might have to be a back up, let me go." Sound a lot like boozer! The grass aint always greener! LeChuckie - git to gittin' already!
June 11, 200817 yr At least the Browns wouldn't have to have paid him an injury settlement to dump him, right?
June 11, 200817 yr I don't know who would pick him up at this point for other then a back up center. My point exactly! He'll be a starter, only due to injury.
June 11, 200817 yr I'm sure some team will sign him to a non-guaranteed contract (who would sign him to a guaranteed one coming off what he is?). But I'll be surprised if he is starting week 1 somewhere. If he is, good for him, then he was right. If not, I'll be glad to see him on the bench of the 3-13 Falcons or some crap team like that. (Yes, I'm bitter).
July 17, 200816 yr Browns receiver likely to start season on PUP list By James Walker - ESPN.com Updated: July 17, 2008, 3:19 PM ET Cleveland Browns veteran receiver Joe Jurevicius likely will start the 2008 season on the physically unable to perform list. If Joe Jurevicius is out of action, who will fill the No. 3 receiver slot for the Browns? ESPN.com's James Walker breaks down the candidates. More at http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3493264
July 20, 200816 yr I don't know about all of you, but am excited that this forum topic will be hoppin' the next few months! --- Expectation, not desperation, is Browns' companion as training camp opens by Tony Grossi Saturday July 19, 2008, 11:34 PM
August 6, 200816 yr I don't know about all of you, but am excited that this forum topic will be hoppin' the next few months! Apparently not! No one has posted here since your July 20 message! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 6, 200816 yr I'm excited that the Browns play the Jets Thursday.. I dunno about you guys/girls..
August 6, 200816 yr I can't wait to hear Bernie on air again. Is he doing the pre-season games again this year?
August 6, 200816 yr 2007 was full of surprises for us Browns fans. Last year when I asked this question, I predicted they would go 8-8. That was being optimistic due to our "weak" schedule. The Brown's went on to play some "decent" ball and finish with a 10-6 record. Nobody saw that coming. With the 2007 season behind us, the 2008 edition of the Browns are listed as "contenders". We've seen/heard/read good reports from training camp and have a mostly healthy rooster. This year we've got a tough schedule, the national media has the browns under a microscope and expectations are high. What do you think our season record will be this year? 2007 Poll: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,10263.0.html NOTE: This thread is not for general Browns news, information or discussion, only to discuss your 2008 final prediction.
August 6, 200816 yr ^ I'm pretty sure he is. Good, I get to drink a beer every time he slurs his speech.
August 6, 200816 yr i said .500 last year too. i'll guess 10-6 this year again. i hope to be pleasantly surprised.
August 6, 200816 yr I going 8-8. There is no clear cut favorite in the AFC North. I think the deciding factor will be the two Browns-Steelers games. Who ever wins those games wins the division. If they split the series...it's a toss up.
August 6, 200816 yr they will take a small step backwards this year. 7-9 I don't know where you get that. What currently is in favor of that.
August 6, 200816 yr they will take a small step backwards this year. 7-9 I guess you're not sure of that, since you didn't vote. lol
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