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Lane was doubting Earl Thomas would come here, he's hinting towards Eric Berry now (and was this morning)   Who just got cut by KC.

 

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My neighbor in CA is from CLE. He just came over specifically to high five me lol. 

Another name to watch is the greatest name in pro sports:  Ha Ha Clinton-Dix.   Nothing like having a safety with the same name as a November, 2016 GOP taunt.  ?

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‘I couldn’t help myself’: Teen talks about OBJ celebration that led to 911 call

POSTED 10:30 PM, MARCH 13, 2019, BY MELISSA REID, UPDATED AT 11:04PM, MARCH 13, 2019

 

SHAKER HEIGHTS, Ohio -- Shaker Heights police responded to a frantic 911 callTuesday night.

 

“We had just gotten home from getting groceries around 8:30 p.m. Then I heard screaming. At first I thought it was a woman because the screaming was so high-pitched,” said Corita Jackson, who lives on Winslow Road.

 

Jackson immediately put her kids back in the car.

 

https://fox8.com/2019/03/13/i-couldnt-help-myself-teen-talks-about-obj-celebration-that-led-to-911-call/

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1 hour ago, MuRrAy HiLL said:

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‘I couldn’t help myself’: Teen talks about OBJ celebration that led to 911 call

POSTED 10:30 PM, MARCH 13, 2019, BY MELISSA REID, UPDATED AT 11:04PM, MARCH 13, 2019

 

SHAKER HEIGHTS, Ohio -- Shaker Heights police responded to a frantic 911 callTuesday night.

 

“We had just gotten home from getting groceries around 8:30 p.m. Then I heard screaming. At first I thought it was a woman because the screaming was so high-pitched,” said Corita Jackson, who lives on Winslow Road.

 

Jackson immediately put her kids back in the car.

 

https://fox8.com/2019/03/13/i-couldnt-help-myself-teen-talks-about-obj-celebration-that-led-to-911-call/

This 911 call was on the local news here in SFL this morning. 

10 hours ago, E Rocc said:

Lane was doubting Earl Thomas would come here, he's hinting towards Eric Berry now (and was this morning)   Who just got cut by KC.

 

 

Yeah, Thomas wasn't going to come here because we've already got a very good player at his position...

 

My buddy says there are two teams in the running for Berry - his (NFC North team) and us. Though he said his boss told him both the Redskins and 49ers are sitting back and might still want to pursue him more aggressively. 

I think it is great that OBJ is coming to Cleveland. Great player if he stays healthy and keeps the drama outside of the sport. He brings a bit of star quality and will bring some shine to Cleveland-he is known as more than an athlete and really is sort of a celebrity and has a large non-sports related following. Minus any injuries and on field/locker room drama, he will be a great asset to Cleveland and the state. Ohio needs some star quality.

13 minutes ago, Toddguy said:

I think it is great that OBJ is coming to Cleveland. Great player if he stays healthy and keeps the drama outside of the sport. He brings a bit of star quality and will bring some shine to Cleveland-he is known as more than an athlete and really is sort of a celebrity and has a large non-sports related following. Minus any injuries and on field/locker room drama, he will be a great asset to Cleveland and the state. Ohio needs some star quality.

 

As an athlete, he has one of the largest social media followings - globally. 

espn app is littered with news this morning of the browns being the big free agency winner.

10 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

espn app is littered with news this morning of the browns being the big free agency winner.

 

Funny thing being, we didn't receive our best signing via FA either

18 hours ago, YABO713 said:

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001022496/article/chiefs-release-safety-eric-berry 

 

Chiefs release Eric Berry. It's happeninggggggg

 

I suspect the Browns are going to want to give him a physical before offering a contract. I read Berry saw a specialist who gave him an all-clear and said he didn't need surgery.

 

As much as I wanted OBJ here, letting Peppers go puts a big hole in our secondary. Kindred is a fine back-up, but that's it. We need a higher quality starter SS  We also need cornerback help with BBC and Gaines leaving. I like Terrance Mitchell as a starting CB probably more than some other fans. We need depth -- will Howard Wilson finally be able healthy and productive? 

 

And who is going to be our starting OLB? And where are we going to find him? KJ Wright is the only decent OLB left in FA, but at his age, is really any better than Jamie Collins was? After the two Devins (White and Bush), this draft is very thin at LB. So what's the plan?? Are we relying on someone named Ray Ray?

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

8 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

I suspect the Browns are going to want to give him a physical before offering a contract. I read Berry saw a specialist who gave him an all-clear and said he didn't need surgery.

 

As much as I wanted OBJ here, letting Peppers go puts a big hole in our secondary. Kindred is a fine back-up, but that's it. We need a higher quality starter SS  We also need cornerback help with BBC and Gaines leaving. I like Terrance Mitchell as a starting CB probably more than some other fans. We need depth -- will Howard Wilson finally be able healthy and productive? 

 

And who is going to be our starting OLB? And where are we going to find him? KJ Wright is the only decent OLB left in FA, but at his age, is really any better than Jamie Collins was? After the two Devins (White and Bush), this draft is very thin at LB. So what's the plan?? Are we relying on someone named Ray Ray?

 

We run a 4-3, Avery would do perfectly fine at Will and did at several times last year. Kirko and Schobert will actually have a bit of a more awkward set up, imo, with Kirksey probably playing Sam and Schobert having to play Mike at 240 (which I think is generous). I expect to see Schobert line up wider than the 1 technique in most packages. 

 

But Kirko and Avery are both very serviceable, with Ray Ray being more of a supplemental Will than anything we need to rely on 50+ snaps a game

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Kirksey at Sam makes me nervous. He's good at run-stopping but not in coverage. TEs eat him for breakfast.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

10 minutes ago, KJP said:

Kirksey at Sam makes me nervous. He's good at run-stopping but not in coverage. TEs eat him for breakfast.

 

Sure, but he'll be easier to hide on the strong side when in zone, as most dynamic TE routes start in the boundary and then work their way to the field - though we know that's not always the case. He's good as a SCIF defender (seam, curl, flat) - but on the whole, I agree with you - he struggles when manned up. I just think his positives greatly outweigh that, as he's a great, instinctual player. 

There's growing speculation the Browns are offering the rest of their 2019 draft picks and/or a number of players on their roster to fill remaining holes....ie strong safety and linebacker. I would expect that the player(s) are on a team that needs to rebuild and/or is in salary cap trouble. There are also hints that a primary trade target is friends with OBJ and Jarvis may know who Dorsey's target is based on his tweets this evening. Some are speculating it's Von Miller, or at least someone of that caliber.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

7 hours ago, KJP said:

There's growing speculation the Browns are offering the rest of their 2019 draft picks and/or a number of players on their roster to fill remaining holes....ie strong safety and linebacker. I would expect that the player(s) are on a team that needs to rebuild and/or is in salary cap trouble. There are also hints that a primary trade target is friends with OBJ and Jarvis may know who Dorsey's target is based on his tweets this evening. Some are speculating it's Von Miller, or at least someone of that caliber.

 

We're beginning to see signs of what goes on in the NBA, i.e. players finding ways to play on the same team as their friends.  Ironically, Cleveland is the first beneficiary of this after being the opposite in basketball.   I wouldn't expect any short term steps to combat this, as the Browns emerging from 0-16 this quickly is good for marketing as it gives hope to the fans of teams that aren't doing well.   

 

I'm not sure they can do anything to stop it.   You can't really apply tampering rules to players who are personal friends.

 

We're forgetting that Christian Kirksey was one of the NFL's best linebackers before he got hurt.   Von Miller is possible, but it may be something that happens after June 1 when the cap retention status changes.

A good linebacker can cover TEs. Kirksey can't/doesn't.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

53 minutes ago, KJP said:

A good linebacker can cover TEs. Kirksey can't/doesn't.

 

No LB's could cover me - no good LB's exist. 

 

 

lol Just kidding... but in all seriousness, this depends. Kirksey can't guard TE's in the open field. You're spot on @KJP, but good DC's mask this. If Garrett or Vernon line up at a wide 9 technique, they can get a chip on the TE -or- if we do man up, Kirksey can get better at his press off the line, as jamming a TE from a 3 pt stance makes it damn near impossible to get your spacing at the end of the route as a TE. 

 

These obviously don't address him in the open field, but it's ways to mitigate that and allow him to be on the field more, since he brings so much value elsewhere. 

So Hunt gets 8 games. He'll be on the field the week before Halloween unless he does something else stupid. Probably want to put the Duke trade talk on ice....

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

3 minutes ago, KJP said:

So Hunt gets 8 games. He'll be on the field the week before Halloween unless he does something else stupid. Probably want to put the Duke trade talk on ice....

 

Idk how he doesn't get credit for the 5 games served last season. 

Yep, surprising. He's not even appealing.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I don't get why the Browns didn't sign him for two years, knowing he'd likely miss a good chunk of this year.   And yes, he should have gotten credit for the five games.

 

 

On 3/14/2019 at 10:52 AM, YABO713 said:

 

Funny thing being, we didn't receive our best signing via FA either

 

 

'tis the season --

 

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cleveland!  hold this L

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

LOL!!!

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

3 hours ago, KJP said:

 

 

I don't think I've ever expected Cleveland to be declared a "Charmed City"!

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Another hype video to the Avengers theme....

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

It would have been nice if we could have gotten Clay Matthews.  

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I understand Dorsey dumping Sashi's picks, but there's something going on trade-wise on when Derrick Kindred (our only remaining starting-quality strong safety) gets waived and now this.....

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I'm a Morgan Burnett fan. He was totally misused in Pittsburgh last year as they played in him a dime linebacker role, but was a highly rated strong safety in Green Bay. He earned some top PFF grades for stopping the run and is an excellent tackler -- something the Browns were dead last in last year. I only hope he still has a couple of years left in his tank. I still think they're drafting a strong safety in the second round. I'm curious about this Garrett Gilbert.

 

 

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I watched a few AAF games, and was sad to see it go, as I felt that the on-field play was starting to come along later in the season.  I didn't get to see any Orlando Apollos games (and thus Gilbert).  Glad to see at least someone will get another NFL chance from the AAF.

I watched some of Gilbert's highlights this morning. Has a good pocket presence, mobility (especially for a 6-foot-4 guy) and very good touch and anticipation on his passes. I also read some articles about how his career got sidetracked in college. He was on a path to stardom but injuries made him a late-round draft pick. I'm sure he and Mayfield will have lots to talk about, considering they both came from the same high school.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Two NFL quarterbacks from the same school- I'd be surprised if they don't know each other, at least a little, even though they wouldn't have been there at the same time.

Baker taking in the Tribe today:

 

 

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from today — baker getting a bit of publicity around times square

 

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I see a 10-6 or 11-5 record in the Browns' schedule. But here's another view.....

 

I'm intrigued by the odds favoring a 13-3 record. And just as much, I like the odds against the other AFC North teams. Pittsburgh is projected at 9-7, Baltimore at 7-9, and Cincinnati at 2-14. Interesting.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

19 minutes ago, KJP said:

I see a 10-6 or 11-5 record in the Browns' schedule. But here's another view.....

 

I'm intrigued by the odds favoring a 13-3 record. And just as much, I like the odds against the other AFC North teams. Pittsburgh is projected at 9-7, Baltimore at 7-9, and Cincinnati at 2-14. Interesting.

That’s not how those probabilities work. If you have a 51% chance of winning each of 16 games it doesn’t mean the odds say you’ll go 16-0. It means you’re likely to win 8-9 games.

 

edit: I may be doing this wrong but their average win probability is 59% which would translate to 9.44 wins.

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I know, I'm just having fun with all of the green (not red) and respect in these probabilities. For the Browns. The Cleveland Browns...

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Happy Mothers Day! Nice shirt Baker.

 

 

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check out beckham’s new custom roze!

 

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36 minutes ago, Eastside said:

 

Honestly blows my mind that Yinzers think it’s business as usual for them.

 

1. Big Ben wears a walking boot more than tennis shoes

 

2. Juju has yet to play as snap as WR1. RYAN SWITZER is likely WR2 there.

 

3. Their secondary is BAD and Haden is aging.

 

This is the worst team they’ll have since 2004. I don’t hate the Steelers the way some Clevelanders do... but 10-6 would be over achieving for them this year.

 

 

1 minute ago, YABO713 said:

 

Honestly blows my mind that Yinzers think it’s business as usual for them.

 

1. Big Ben wears a walking boot more than tennis shoes

 

2. Juju has yet to play as snap as WR1. RYAN SWITZER is likely WR2 there.

 

3. Their secondary is BAD and Haden is aging.

 

This is the worst team they’ll have since 2004. I don’t hate the Steelers the way some Clevelanders do... but 10-6 would be over achieving for them this year.

 

 

I hate to say it but the Steelers usually tend to overperform their expected outcome. 

3 minutes ago, freefourur said:

I hate to say it but the Steelers usually tend to overperform their expected outcome. 

 

I’m not disputing that - but they usually do it because they have talent to support it. They have solid edge rushers and a good o-line... but that isn’t what they’re accustomed to

2 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

I’m not disputing that - but they usually do it because they have talent to support it. They have solid edge rushers and a good o-line... but that isn’t what they’re accustomed to

 

Having good lines will allow them to at least stay competitive with just mediocre talent behind them. But their secondary is weak and their LB corps still hasn't recovered from the loss of Shazier. The Stillers can still score as long as Roethlisberger is healthy and they have Conner and JuJu, but they aren't going to score like they did in the past. But they are a team that's clearly on the way down unless their draft picks this year produce.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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