November 29, 20213 yr 48 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said: Browns need to find a kicker. It is amazing to me that this is one of 32 jobs in the world, and the guy they hire cannot do it well. If I was Stefanski, McGlaughlin would be on a Greyhound home tonight and a fresh guy in Berea tomrorow morning!
November 29, 20213 yr I'm not sure what the American viewing audience did to deserve watching this prime time game...but it must've been bad. This is awful to watch.
November 29, 20213 yr This offense is just painful to watch. Our defense actually played a pretty good game.
November 29, 20213 yr Those aerial shots of downtown Baltimore were impressive. I wish Cleveland's harbor looked that nice.
November 29, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, Ineffable_Matt said: I'm just waiting for @YABO713to tell me how good Stefanski was this game. Oh he was awful last night. No defending it. Still doesn't invalidate my thoughts on him generally. We couldn't run block to save our lives. The lack of discipline was atrocious. And we have a QB playing at 50% while the league's most capable backup rides the bench. When he has bad days, it should be called out. Yesterday was a bad day.
November 29, 20213 yr 3 minutes ago, YABO713 said: We couldn't run block to save our lives. The lack of discipline was atrocious. And we have a QB playing at 50% while the league's most capable backup rides the bench. Do you think Mayfield is a good long term option if healthy? This was the worst possible situation to evaluate him for a second contract. He is certainly not having a good year, but a torn labrum along with his other injuries certainly influence that. As much as I hate to admit it, the guy is a hell of a competitor and I think demonstrates good leadership that can help the Browns excel. I do not think he is a phenomenal QB, but is quite effective when healthy and given the opportunity to win. He was very good last year, but mediocre in year 2. I dont know how you can pay him big money to stay with this year's results, but I dont know how you can let him go either. To me, he has this Drew Brees factor that will make him a decent long term QB. May not ever reach HOF numbers but I dont think I could give up on him yet. Also, looking at the QB pool in college this year, there are no real standout candidates and I do not know if anyone in next year's class has stood out yet either. CJ Stroud is a work in progress, so is Bryce Young. There is no Trevor Lawrence coming down the pike in 2022/2023 drafts.
November 29, 20213 yr ^ but can he be healthy again? because these sound like long term nagging injuries. after all mayfield is no big ben sized guy -- and he needs to be at his physical best to even be effective as we have seen. as for now ... we do have another qb ... just sayin ...
November 29, 20213 yr 52 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said: Do you think Mayfield is a good long term option if healthy? This was the worst possible situation to evaluate him for a second contract. He is certainly not having a good year, but a torn labrum along with his other injuries certainly influence that. As much as I hate to admit it, the guy is a hell of a competitor and I think demonstrates good leadership that can help the Browns excel. I do not think he is a phenomenal QB, but is quite effective when healthy and given the opportunity to win. He was very good last year, but mediocre in year 2. I dont know how you can pay him big money to stay with this year's results, but I dont know how you can let him go either. To me, he has this Drew Brees factor that will make him a decent long term QB. May not ever reach HOF numbers but I dont think I could give up on him yet. Also, looking at the QB pool in college this year, there are no real standout candidates and I do not know if anyone in next year's class has stood out yet either. CJ Stroud is a work in progress, so is Bryce Young. There is no Trevor Lawrence coming down the pike in 2022/2023 drafts. I'm a Baker believed (though not to a fault lol), but I'm starting to question that, honestly. I think he's a top 10-12 QB when healthy, but with the way he plays, injuries are going to come in the NFL. If the Browns pivot at QB at this point, it has to be a veteran (Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson, etc.), our team is too talented to start from scratch with a rookie QB. (Mac Jones is an anomaly).
November 29, 20213 yr 19 minutes ago, YABO713 said: I'm a Baker believed (though not to a fault lol), but I'm starting to question that, honestly. I think he's a top 10-12 QB when healthy, but with the way he plays, injuries are going to come in the NFL. If the Browns pivot at QB at this point, it has to be a veteran (Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson, etc.), our team is too talented to start from scratch with a rookie QB. (Mac Jones is an anomaly). That is the biggest thing on Baker. In his prime and healthy he is a #7-12 QB. That is not top QB level but still too good to give up on completely. I also think his intangibles and leadership are strong. However, Watson is a top 3-10 QB with a higher upside. He is a difference maker if he would ever be cleared by the league. I do not know if Wilson gets you there anymore. He is in his 30's now and is probably subject to diminishing returns going forward.
November 29, 20213 yr Since the end of 2018, Baker has just three 4th quarter come backs / game-winning drives, including none this season. Baker also leads the league in 4th-quarter interceptions since being drafted in 2018. Very Stable Genius
November 29, 20213 yr Dear God -NO!!!!- on Watson! I can't believe people are even talking about him as an option. He's going to be embroiled in legal troubles and lawsuits and drama for years to come. And that's leaving aside that it would be the stupidest possible business move to make this guy the face of the franchise now. And THAT's leaving aside the actual moral repugnance of bringing him to our team and into our town.
November 30, 20213 yr 13 minutes ago, mrnyc said: what's money manziel doing these days? Probably cocaine.
December 1, 20213 yr 21 hours ago, mrnyc said: what's money manziel doing these days? He just got divorced and is back on the market....
December 1, 20213 yr On 11/29/2021 at 7:38 PM, TBideon said: No sexual predators on the team for god's sake. You want to build a team without football players? 🙈
December 9, 20213 yr Hopefully the Browns won't need to do a lot of punting on Sunday. https://www.news5cleveland.com/sports/browns/browns-place-p-jamie-gillan-lb-anthony-walker-on-reserve-covid-19-list Edited December 9, 20213 yr by LibertyBlvd
December 12, 20213 yr welp after the 2nd qtr td for 17-0 espn gamecast sez they have an 89.5% chance to win. irl of course that means hand on to yr hat. 😂
December 12, 20213 yr 23 minutes ago, mrnyc said: welp after the 2nd qtr td for 17-0 espn gamecast sez they have an 89.5% chance to win. irl of course that means hand on to yr hat. 😂 I assume they are factoring in Ravens QB out for remainder of game. Edited December 12, 20213 yr by LibertyBlvd
December 12, 20213 yr i dk how they held the ravens off from a fg in the end after fumbling, but they did it. geez. crazy. i hate this game lol.
December 13, 20213 yr NFL playoff picture: Cleveland Browns get help, have momentum to reach postseason https://news.yahoo.com/nfl-playoff-picture-cleveland-browns-022703160.html
December 14, 20213 yr trying to be somewhat realistic, but ideally/best case the browns could go 3-1. more likely though 2-2. i don't know that that gets them in the playoffs. likely no. also, how weird the next two games are saturday games. Cleveland Browns schedule Week 15: vs. Las Vegas Raiders Week 16: at Green Bay Packers Week 17: at Pittsburgh Steelers Week 18: vs. Cincinnati Bengals
December 14, 20213 yr A shame the Browns played so poorly vs the Steelers earlier this year. That was a winnable game. They would be in better shape now had they won it.
December 14, 20213 yr Welp, this isn't good. https://www.news5cleveland.com/sports/browns/browns-place-8-players-including-jarvis-landry-wyatt-teller-on-reserve-covid-19-list
December 15, 20213 yr On 11/30/2021 at 11:25 AM, Ineffable_Matt said: Probably cocaine. No more calls, we have a winner! You win the UrbanOhio game!
December 15, 20213 yr Add one more. https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/nfl/browns/cleveland-browns-qb-baker-mayfield-tests-positive-covid-19/95-6eef7a91-18e9-4f64-98ce-7dda78e51da9
December 15, 20213 yr And Coach Stefanski too "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 15, 20213 yr I just saw video of Baker meeting with local schoolchildren, picking them up, hugging them etc. He was in a mask and the kids were too. While we all love these sorts of charitable endeavors, perhaps they are not wise during Covid times...
December 15, 20213 yr jinkees -- so the upcoming raiders game was probably the most winnable of the remaining games, but now ....? so far they have no 'ronas: https://www.silverandblackpride.com/2021/12/14/22835650/raiders-nfl-covid-19-jalen-richard
December 15, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, mrnyc said: jinkees -- so the upcoming raiders game was probably the most winnable of the remaining games, but now ....? so far they have no 'ronas: https://www.silverandblackpride.com/2021/12/14/22835650/raiders-nfl-covid-19-jalen-richard Gotta go with the Case Keenam vs Denver game plan. Short passes and timely runs. They can win it.
December 15, 20213 yr 7 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said: Didn't Stefanski already have Covid back in January? Yes, it is possible to get it twice.
December 15, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, X said: Yes, it is possible to get it twice. So apparently Covid will never go away.
December 17, 20213 yr Okay, so now this: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32884411/sources-cleveland-browns-qb-case-keenum-tests-positive-covid-19
December 17, 20213 yr Well, my Saturday is free now. https://fox8.com/sports/nfl-postpones-browns-raiders-game-after-slew-of-covid-cases-report/ Edited December 17, 20213 yr by LibertyBlvd
December 17, 20213 yr Goodell making the $65 million/yr decision. Edited December 17, 20213 yr by TBideon
December 18, 20213 yr no kidding? well i am surprized, but the nfl finally made the right call. the players were rightly getting steamed about the unfairness of it. we all will have to live with irregular cancelations of events for awhile longer.
December 18, 20213 yr wait, so now the browns play monday … and then next saturday? yikes — they should move that to sunday at least.
December 18, 20213 yr Well, it's not as bad as playing on a Sunday, then playing again on the following Thursday, which they did earlier this season.
December 18, 20213 yr Does anyone know how many key players the Browns are likely to have back on Monday?
December 19, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, X said: I'm willing to hazard a guess that, no, nobody knows. Well if anything I suppose the delay at least gives that QB some time to learn the playbook.
December 19, 20213 yr Teller is back. That's one... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 21, 20213 yr 33 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said: Browns need to find a kicker. Totally. Why couldn't Mcglaughlin test positive. I'd be happy with a practice squad kicker
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