October 27, 200816 yr A "W" is a "W" period! Three straight games without a turnover and the second win without Winslow.
October 27, 200816 yr Why does all the media write us off? We are right in the middle of the pack in terms of an AFC wildcard..including better than jacksonville and SD right now. COlts arent much better. If we take care of home the next two games, we should be feeling REAL good...cause that would mean a tie breaker against Denver too.
October 27, 200816 yr Why does all the media write us off? We are right in the middle of the pack in terms of an AFC wildcard..including better than jacksonville and SD right now. COlts arent much better. If we take care of home the next two games, we should be feeling REAL good...cause that would mean a tie breaker against Denver too. When were we "wrote off"?? the team has not performed up to expectations, granted I believe they gave too much credit to begin with. I predicted an 8-8 season, I think the "experts" were wrong from the start. See this thread: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,16935.0.html
October 27, 200816 yr I heard Roger Brown and many of the Cleveland media people, who are not very credible sources, but they still have their opinions say numerous times over the last two weeks say "start Quinn, we are not giong anywhere this year anyway", and "this team is bad"...in all reality we are 3-1 in our last 4, and the loss coming to a possible super bowl contender for the NFC...this town can be very fickle.
October 27, 200816 yr Oh please! When a team does not perform up to "expectations", the naysayers come out in force. Cleveland is not immune to this, it happens in EVERY city. Nor, is this something that is relegated to the NFL, it happens in MLB, NHL and NBA. BTW, welcome to UrbanOhio! :wave:
October 27, 200816 yr Because the PD won't be happy until this city gets nuked by a meltdown at Davis Besse, is hit by 10 F5 tornadoes in a line, the splinters ignite in a horrific inferno, the ashes wash away into Lake Erie and are urinated on by any survivors. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 27, 200816 yr how about shaun rogers play yesterday? i can't believe the lions let this dude go for basically leigh bodden...browns were smart to give him a new contract and lock him up!
October 27, 200816 yr Because the PD won't be happy until this city gets nuked by a meltdown at Davis Besse, is hit by 10 F5 tornadoes in a line, the splinters ignite in a horrific inferno, the ashes wash away into Lake Erie and are urinated on by any survivors. Freakin' Hilarious!!!!! I think they're waiting for a Hurricane on Lake Erie though...
October 27, 200816 yr I stopped over to make a post about the Browns needing to get DA a shrink but got sidetracked by KJP's hilarious analysis of the PD....That is why I love Urban Ohio...
October 27, 200816 yr It could be worse, you could be a Bengals fan like myself. At least the Browns have a win.
October 27, 200816 yr It could be worse, you could be a Bengals fan like myself. At least the Browns have a win. The Brownies have THREE. WHOOOHOOO! :-P
November 2, 200816 yr Pretty pathetic down the stretch this afternoon. A little disheartening hearing the 'Brady' chants near the end of the game. I don't place the blame on Anderson... he had an ok game. I'm ready to see Romeo hand over the team to someone that can win a championship. Honestly, does anyone think Romeo can bring an NFL championship to Cleveland? Anyone? ROMEO MUST GO
November 3, 200816 yr Braylon Edwards would have trouble catching a Nerf football.. It's time to at least give Quinn some series, see what the kid can do, it's all about building for next year at this point..
November 3, 200816 yr if their schedule were a bit more friendly, I'd say stick with Anderson, but honestly I don't see the Browns making a run at the playoffs anymore...they will struggle to finish .500 at this point...looking at their remaining schedule, they might be favored in 2 of these games home vs Denver 4-4 at Buffalo 5-3 home vs Houston 3-5 home vs Indy 4-4 at Tenn 8-0 at Philly 5-3 home vs Cincy 1-8 at Pit 5-2
November 3, 200816 yr if their schedule were a bit more friendly, I'd say stick with Anderson, but honestly I don't see the Browns making a run at the playoffs anymore...they will struggle to finish .500 at this point...looking at their remaining schedule, they might be favored in 2 of these games home vs Denver 4-4 at Buffalo 5-3 home vs Houston 3-5 home vs Indy 4-4 at Tenn 8-0 at Philly 5-3 home vs Cincy 1-8 at Pit 5-2 As i said earlier, the "expectation" was greater than the "ability" of the browns. I said 8-8 and I think that is how they will finish.
November 3, 200816 yr BREAKING - WKYC Browns: Brady Quinn to start Thursday night's game CLEVELAND -- The Cleveland Browns have announced that quarterback Brady Quinn will make his first regular season NFL start this Thursday night against Denver. Head Coach, Romeo Crennel, had said earlier Monday in his press conference that he didn't see any lineup changes. The decision one day after the Browns lost to the Ravens after blowing a 14 point lead with Derek Anderson as their quarterback. The Browns have a record of 3-5. Quinn was the team's a first round draft pick in 2007. © 2008 WKYC-TV
November 3, 200816 yr oh snap. now that is news. hey anything to stir it up a little. i dont see how that will make a difference as honestly qb is among the least of this team's problems, but interesting.
November 3, 200816 yr oh snap. now that is news. hey anything to stir it up a little. i dont see how that will make a difference as honestly qb is among the least of this team's problems, but interesting. Someone buy Braylon some GLUE!
November 4, 200816 yr All I have to say is that is heck of vote of confidence for Denver's defense switching the QB on 3 days of practice. Although if Denvers D is that bad against the run, I can see a "manage" the game plan for Brady, heavy on the run to get him up to speed and build some confidence. Maybe 20 passes at the most for the whole game.
November 4, 200816 yr oh snap. now that is news. hey anything to stir it up a little. i dont see how that will make a difference as honestly qb is among the least of this team's problems, but interesting. Someone buy Braylon some GLUE! Sometimes I feel like Braylon is the Cerrano (Thanks flee2thecleve) character from Major League who can pound out 500 ft homers (tumbling one handed catches) off a fastball but he can't hit the curveball (routine in his hands catches). Minus the vodoo of course.
November 4, 200816 yr ^Pedro Cerrano ^^I agree. Denver's D is mong the league's worst, they struggle against both the run (26 of 32) and pass (27 of 32).
November 5, 200816 yr T-minus 28 hours until Brady Quinn's debut.... (Dr. Frankenfurter Style) Talk about An....ticip.............ation
November 5, 200816 yr T-minus 28 hours until Brady Quinn's debut.... (Dr. Frankenfurter Style) Talk about An....ticip.............ation LMAO! Hot Patootie / Bless My Soul
November 5, 200816 yr Perhaps killing a chicken might not be such a bad idea for Braylon after-all or maybe a pair of these:
November 7, 200816 yr Game summary: Start well, get nice lead, build up hope for victory, collapse, lose. Lather, rinse, repeat.
November 7, 200816 yr The Browns lost fans tonight. Quinn looked OK. He didn't take any risks and hardly ever threw the ball over the top. He's a tight ends best friend. Honestly, I prefer Anderson. At least he throws the ball down the field every now and then to Edwards who will make the catch one out of three times. Another pathetic performance by the defense... absolutely no pressure all night. Isn't Romeo a defensive minded coach? ROMEO MUST GO!
November 7, 200816 yr It doesn't matter if Romeo is a defense minded coach if he doesn't have defensive minded players.
November 7, 200816 yr I want to rant but that takes too much energy... Good for Quinn. I liked DA but once it was apparent that he wasn't making progress in leadership, evening out his game and maintaining his composure I didn't think that it was going to work out. I'll take an even quarter back that is good for 200 plus yds on almost any day. Perhaps the Browns should switch to Hockey since they can only play for three periods?
November 7, 200816 yr Well, at least Chris Collinsworth said that the stadium was pretty awesome (it was his first time there) and commented that he was very impressed by all of the progress happening in Downtown Cleveland.
November 7, 200816 yr At least now we'll be able to see what we have in Quinn and make a determination on what direction to go at QB long-term. My guess is they trade DA for picks and load up on D. Clearly it is that side of the ball that needs help, especially in the LB core. How cool would it be if the Browns picked up Laurinaitis?
November 7, 200816 yr So game winding down and you have 2 timeouts left. 1st and 10, you pick up 9 yards. 2nd and 1, incomplete pass. 3rd and 1, incomplete pass. 4th and 1, incomplete pass. Game over. Why it never dawned on anyone on the coaching staff to perhaps run a draw play to pick up a first down, keep the drive alive, and get a new set of downs is beyond me. Denver is running a prevent defense, rushing only 3, I am quite certain you can pick up a first down, call timeout, and continue on. This is why the coaching staff needs to go.
November 7, 200816 yr Perhaps the Browns should switch to Hockey since they can only play for three periods? LMAO
November 7, 200816 yr So game winding down and you have 2 timeouts left. 1st and 10, you pick up 9 yards. 2nd and 1, incomplete pass. 3rd and 1, incomplete pass. 4th and 1, incomplete pass. Game over. Why it never dawned on anyone on the coaching staff to perhaps run a draw play to pick up a first down, keep the drive alive, and get a new set of downs is beyond me. Denver is running a prevent defense, rushing only 3, I am quite certain you can pick up a first down, call timeout, and continue on. This is why the coaching staff needs to go. agree 100%. 3rd down, they should have run. Unfortunately, dumb moves are the norm.
November 7, 200816 yr Quinn looks to be the better overall QB. We'll see how he plays in cold weather down the stretch. D.A. was not a fan.
November 7, 200816 yr The Browns lost fans tonight. Quinn looked OK. He didn't take any risks and hardly ever threw the ball over the top. He's a tight ends best friend. Honestly, I prefer Anderson. At least he throws the ball down the field every now and then to Edwards who will make the catch one out of three times. Another pathetic performance by the defense... absolutely no pressure all night. Isn't Romeo a defensive minded coach? ROMEO MUST GO! You understand that Brady had two days of practice to get ready for this game right? I thought it was obvious that Brady had a lot better control of the offense and seemed very relaxed. DA gets flustered and loses confidence too easily. DA is a nice guy and his team likes him a lot, but Brady is a natural leader and should play the rest of the season..
November 7, 200816 yr ^I understand Brady's limited practice time, but I would still like to see him air it out a little more. Utilize Edwards in what he's best at... running fades and posts down the field. I've thought about it a little more and considering they are now basically out of playoff contention I think it's time to keep Quinn in for the rest of the year... none of this back and forth BS.
November 7, 200816 yr There is no reason to ever put Anderson in again. He cannot move. He cannot manage a drive under time pressure. He cannot hit recievers in stride, while Quinn has already mastered it. Anderson's five yard passes go for five yards, if they're completed at all. Quinn's five yard passes go for 10-15 because recievers don't have to stop, jump, or turn around to find the ball. I'd like to see more downfield throws too, and I think we will soon.
November 7, 200816 yr Brady's lack of downfield passing is also completely attributed to the coaching staff. They installed a very conservative game plan which did not ask him to do a whole lot - and he executed that. We'll see what happens as it expands. But this team is in desperate need of a leader. DA is not a leader. He had big games last year against Cincy, Miami, and St Louis - the 3 worst teams in the league. Otherwise, he played average or poorly, particularly when pressure was on him to perform. Hopefully Brady can fill a leadership role. Usually your head coach is supposed to be a leader, but Romeo leads nothing. "Anderson is our QB" (two hours later) "We're making a change to Brady Quinn" Awesome. The whole Frye/Anderson thing last year, DA/Quinn this year, Winslow staph infection mis-management, the inability to manage the clock at the end of the half or game, the play calling, defensive schemes...its horrid. The Broncos HAD NO HEALTHY RB IN THE SECOND HALF! When your opponent has no running back on their roster, do you think they might have to resort to throwing the ball? And you can't put together a defensive package to stop what you know is coming? Complete and total disaster.
November 7, 200816 yr The Broncos HAD NO HEALTHY RB IN THE SECOND HALF! When your opponent has no running back on their roster, do you think they might have to resort to throwing the ball? And you can't put together a defensive package to stop what you know is coming? Complete and total disaster. I couldn't agree more. What we witnessed last night was symptomatic of the entire year. With an utter failure to devise a gameplan that produces positive yardage and the inability to effectivley coach on or off the field.
November 7, 200816 yr Crennel says Cleveland Browns will discuss signing CB DeAngelo Hall by Mary Kay Cabot Friday November 07, 2008, 1:46 PM Browns coach Romeo Crennel said today that the team will at least discuss the possibility of signing cornerback DeAngelo Hall, who was released this week by the Oakland Raiders. Hall, a two-time Pro Bowl selection, was released after he reportedly struggled in the Raiders' man-to-man scheme and was beaten a lot in the first half of the season. More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com
November 7, 200816 yr "Hall, a two-time Pro Bowl selection, was released after he reportedly struggled in the Raiders' man-to-man scheme and was beaten a lot in the first half of the season." Sounds just like what this team needs....because you can never have too many of your D secondary getting beaten man-to-man.
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