You know it's a great game when you are pretty much forced to leave at halftime. The best part was that the rapid was pretty full with Browns fans. This team isn't worth the time, I said they were going win 4 games and I was attacked and suspended for it. I guess the homers on this site who think the Browns are still the Bees knees will have to think again. I just hope that fluke Miami win last week doesn't come back to haunt us when we try to replace that bum McCoy with Andrew Luck at draft time.

The good thing was that my seats in the dawg pound were in perfect view of the FEB construction, they really are moving along on that tower. Looking good.

This team isn't worth the time, I said they were going win 4 games and I was attacked and suspended for it.

 

You were suspended for personally attacking others here. Period.

BULL....I had some guy attacking me on here, once I said something back I got kicked off. Did that other guy get booted? I highly doubt it. And this last time I did nothing but say that I enjoy laughing at some posters on here and I got kicked off again. All because I called you guys out for having your little favorites. Like I said a million times, you guys take this WAYYYYY too seriously. It's a site that people talk about stuff being built around Ohio, it's not really heavy duty talk going on here. But you guys act like we're trying to cure cancer around here.

 

Anyway, does anyone want to still deny that the Browns will be lucky to pull out 5 wins this season?

Anyway, does anyone want to still deny that the Browns will be lucky to pull out 5 wins this season?

 

Yes

Anyway, does anyone want to still deny that the Browns will be lucky to pull out 5 wins this season?

 

Yes

 

There is a potential for a late-season meltdown given how weighted the difficulty of the schedule is. Generally, the team looks like a slightly flashier version of last year's Browns. The thing that worries me the most is the failure of the defense today. I really have no idea what will happen the rest of the year. No way they have a winning season. I'd say 6 or 7 wins if Hillis gets back to full-time. If not, we're in big trouble.

All I'm denying is that we will be "lucky" to win 5 games all season.

Not much to smile about after this game.  Worst of all, Joe Haden injured his knee hauling a** to save a touchdown.  That pick 6 was just embarrassing, I didn't see a ton of effort to stop that touchdown.  I'll be interested to see how they respond to this one.  I can't see them ending the year with a .500 record.

 

Hey HeatOhio, how about keeping it on topic please.

BULL....I had some guy attacking me on here, once I said something back I got kicked off. Did that other guy get booted? I highly doubt it. And this last time I did nothing but say that I enjoy laughing at some posters on here and I got kicked off again. All because I called you guys out for having your little favorites. Like I said a million times, you guys take this WAYYYYY too seriously. It's a site that people talk about stuff being built around Ohio, it's not really heavy duty talk going on here. But you guys act like we're trying to cure cancer around here.

 

Anyway, does anyone want to still deny that the Browns will be lucky to pull out 5 wins this season?

 

Instead of worrying about whatever punishment the other guy received, maybe you should concern yourself about your abrasive tone.

I'm still recovering from a pretty nasty flu, I hadn't slept well the past week (because of the flu), I'm fat and out of shape, it was 40 degrees and pouring rain with a pretty good breeze blowing, and yet going outside to jog a couple miles seemed more desirable than watching the end of the game. Thank you browns for motivating me to get off my butt and exercise.

Here's what we learned yesterday, the Titans are better than the Browns.  Just as the Titans are better than the Ravens, who they beat by two TD's a few weeks back.  The Titans have way too much speed for really anyone in the AFC North, and they'll probably go 4-0 against the North if they keep playing the way they're playing right now..  They exploited our biggest weakness on Defense, slow LB's and Safeties that struggle in coverage, by running 2 & 3 TE sets at us all game.  Bottom line is the Titans were a nightmarish matchup for the Browns.

 

I'm sticking with my 7-win prediction that I started with before the season began.

Here's what we learned yesterday, the Titans are better than the Browns.  Just as the Titans are better than the Ravens, who they beat by two TD's a few weeks back.  The Titans have way too much speed for really anyone in the AFC North, and they'll probably go 4-0 against the North if they keep playing the way they're playing right now..  They exploited our biggest weakness on Defense, slow LB's and Safeties that struggle in coverage, by running 2 & 3 TE sets at us all game.  Bottom line is the Titans were a nightmarish matchup for the Browns.

 

I'm sticking with my 7-win prediction that I started with before the season began.

 

Yes, we're slow and an awful team. You explained away the reason why we gave up a boat load of points but you spoke nothing about why our offense couldn't get past the 50. Just curious about where we're going to pick up another 5 wins. We still have 4 games against the Steelers and Ravens, that's 4 L's right there. Then we have the Cardinals on the road, Texans, Raiders in Oakland...

 

I see us as having a great shot at beating the Seahawks and the Rams if they are still as banged up as they are now. Those are the only two games I can really see us winning. We may squeak out a lucky win like we did against Miami but I doubt it. That leaves us at 4-12 to 5-11. We have a horrible front office that is the most overrated thing I've seen. Shurmer isn't head coach material and I see him being let go the year that Holmgren gets out after collecting his last fat paycheck from that idiot owner of ours.

Sports threads are not supposed to be nicey-nicey, IMHO :)

 

The best way to judge Shurmur so far is how he does with what Heckert gives him. When his new defensive line gets zero penetration, that's bad, because we already know he has no receivers and a QB who may be Brady Quinn and may be Drew Brees. Jauron should be an effective coordinator in theory, but currently there are too many big misses to let him off the hook. And not using Hillis more, even if he's a step slow, was not the right call if they wanted Colt to throw to the RB - Hardesty doesn't look bad running, but four drops is beyond atrocious. I don't think Braylon ever managed that.

 

2-2 isn't terrible for this team. For the Browns to have a chance to be near .500, they have to steal a game from Balt and Pitt, and I'm not convinced that's possible. Seattle, St. Louis, Jacksonville, those are games we 'should' win, which means we'll lose at least one. Others? I wouldn't favor Cleveland in any of them. Mangini stole games he should have lost and lost games he should have won. So far, all we've done was steal a game we should have won to begin with (Miami) and lost one we should have won, although Cinci may not be as bad as people think.

This is what I don't understand about so many Browns fans.  So many "fans" seem to enjoy lashing out at current players, coaches and fans that try to support them.  And it is actually why in some sick way, that I want the Browns to continue to lose, because these fans are getting what they deserve.  I know that every team has a portion of their fanbase that fits this mold (hating on anything and everything Browns), but I truly believe the Browns have the largest portion of this type of fan.  So much anger and hatred, just oozing from the seams, needing to lash out at anything that moves.

 

You (Heat) think the Browns will win 4-5 games, point taken.  I am truly sorry, but I think we will win 7.  Now, should I be impaled, would that punishment fit this crime of thinking we win 7 games?

^^hard for the d-line to get pressure when the 1+ is getting rid of the ball as quick as Hassleback was yesterday.  Minus those two big plays, I thought the defense actually played pretty well.  Tennessee only had 10 first downs the entire game.  Take away the pick-6 and the most awful tackling angles I have seen on that play to their TE and we have a very close ballgame.

 

I watched it again and Dimitri was definitely picked (illegally) on that long catch and run by Washington.  It was rather blatant as a matter of fact.  The WR lowered his shoulder into him and allowed Washington to run free.  BS..... but I'm sure we will get away with some cwap like that as the season goes on

^^hard for the d-line to get pressure when the 1+ is getting rid of the ball as quick as Hassleback was yesterday.  Minus those two big plays, I thought the defense actually played pretty well.  Tennessee only had 10 first downs the entire game.  Take away the pick-6 and the most awful tackling angles I have seen on that play to their TE and we have a very close ballgame.

 

I watched it again and Dimitri was definitely picked (illegally) on that long catch and run by Washington.  It was rather blatant as a matter of fact.  The WR lowered his shoulder into him and allowed Washington to run free.  BS..... but I'm sure we will get away with some cwap like that as the season goes on

 

Yeah, bad calls happen to and for a team all the time. There's no excuse for the poor tackling and the outright lack of speed this team has. Our weak points as a team are our age at LB, This means that those drag routes by the TE's or RB's should draw special attention from safeties or they need to start playing the nickle on basic sets in order to make up for this. There are adjustments that can be made and that would be made by a good coach. And not to be angry and hateful, but I really do HATE it when people play the "if" card. "IF" the Browns didn't give up that pick 6 and IF the Browns didn't try that trick play and IF the Browns didn't try a stupid misdirection play on a 4th and 1. IF IF IF....How about IF the Browns were a real NFL team with NFL talent we may have a shot at beating someone someday?

 

But to be honest, this loss is a good thing, that's just one more loss to go towards what our ultimate goal should be, and that's to draft Andrew Luck in the draft next year.

They are an NFL team (one of 32, I believe). 

 

They have NFL talent.  Pretty sure IF they waived their entire roster, 95% of the players would be snatched up pretty quickly.

 

Kind of ironic that you are crying, pissing, and moaning about decisions made, when your 'ultimate goal' would be to lose as many games as possible to get the #1 pick.  You've said your peace, now I will say mine.  Please go root for another team.  Either that or take your grievances public in the Dawg Pound next game.

^^hard for the d-line to get pressure when the 1+ is getting rid of the ball as quick as Hassleback was yesterday.  Minus those two big plays, I thought the defense actually played pretty well.  Tennessee only had 10 first downs the entire game.  Take away the pick-6 and the most awful tackling angles I have seen on that play to their TE and we have a very close ballgame.

 

I watched it again and Dimitri was definitely picked (illegally) on that long catch and run by Washington.  It was rather blatant as a matter of fact.  The WR lowered his shoulder into him and allowed Washington to run free.  BS..... but I'm sure we will get away with some cwap like that as the season goes on

 

Yeah, bad calls happen to and for a team all the time. There's no excuse for the poor tackling and the outright lack of speed this team has. Our weak points as a team are our age at LB, This means that those drag routes by the TE's or RB's should draw special attention from safeties or they need to start playing the nickle on basic sets in order to make up for this. There are adjustments that can be made and that would be made by a good coach. And not to be angry and hateful, but I really do HATE it when people play the "if" card. "IF" the Browns didn't give up that pick 6 and IF the Browns didn't try that trick play and IF the Browns didn't try a stupid misdirection play on a 4th and 1. IF IF IF....How about IF the Browns were a real NFL team with NFL talent we may have a shot at beating someone someday?

 

But to be honest, this loss is a good thing, that's just one more loss to go towards what our ultimate goal should be, and that's to draft Andrew Luck in the draft next year.

 

Are we even sure that Luck is the best thing for the Browns??

 

Yes he is a great college QB, but there are a good number of those that never amount to anything in the NFL.  The Browns need a playmaking WR (Little's good, but not Calvin/Andre Johnson good) like Blackmon.  That is who they should be targeting in next years draft.  If they draft Luck he is still going to have the same crappy WRs to throw to.  After WR, target LB and CB along with OL and DL depth.  There are plenty of pieces on this team.  Just not enough to make a difference yet. 

Are we even sure that Luck is the best thing for the Browns??

 

 

Watching SportsNation right now and heard for the first time the term "Suck for Luck" describing teams that are playing bad so they can draft him.

 

People are so creative.

They are an NFL team (one of 32, I believe). 

 

They have NFL talent.  Pretty sure IF they waived their entire roster, 95% of the players would be snatched up pretty quickly.

 

Kind of ironic that you are crying, pissing, and moaning about decisions made, when your 'ultimate goal' would be to lose as many games as possible to get the #1 pick.  You've said your peace, now I will say mine.  Please go root for another team.  Either that or take your grievances public in the Dawg Pound next game.

 

I was in the dawg pound this last game, and every single person around me agreed with how god awful we are. 95% of our roster would be picked up? Really? Just goes to show how much you really know about football, which is basically nothing. Maybe you've been watching another sport and you're a bit confused.

^^hard for the d-line to get pressure when the 1+ is getting rid of the ball as quick as Hassleback was yesterday.  Minus those two big plays, I thought the defense actually played pretty well.  Tennessee only had 10 first downs the entire game.  Take away the pick-6 and the most awful tackling angles I have seen on that play to their TE and we have a very close ballgame.

 

I watched it again and Dimitri was definitely picked (illegally) on that long catch and run by Washington.  It was rather blatant as a matter of fact.  The WR lowered his shoulder into him and allowed Washington to run free.  BS..... but I'm sure we will get away with some cwap like that as the season goes on

 

Yeah, bad calls happen to and for a team all the time. There's no excuse for the poor tackling and the outright lack of speed this team has. Our weak points as a team are our age at LB, This means that those drag routes by the TE's or RB's should draw special attention from safeties or they need to start playing the nickle on basic sets in order to make up for this. There are adjustments that can be made and that would be made by a good coach. And not to be angry and hateful, but I really do HATE it when people play the "if" card. "IF" the Browns didn't give up that pick 6 and IF the Browns didn't try that trick play and IF the Browns didn't try a stupid misdirection play on a 4th and 1. IF IF IF....How about IF the Browns were a real NFL team with NFL talent we may have a shot at beating someone someday?

 

But to be honest, this loss is a good thing, that's just one more loss to go towards what our ultimate goal should be, and that's to draft Andrew Luck in the draft next year.

 

Are we even sure that Luck is the best thing for the Browns??

 

Yes he is a great college QB, but there are a good number of those that never amount to anything in the NFL.  The Browns need a playmaking WR (Little's good, but not Calvin/Andre Johnson good) like Blackmon.  That is who they should be targeting in next years draft.  If they draft Luck he is still going to have the same crappy WRs to throw to.  After WR, target LB and CB along with OL and DL depth.  There are plenty of pieces on this team.  Just not enough to make a difference yet.

 

I was all for us taking Julio Jones in the draft to give Colt some weapons, so I'm 100% with you that we need a playmaker at that position. BUT, Luck is good enough to make mediocre recievers better, that's what great QB's do. Aaron Rogers, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning...they've all made decent WR's look far better than they ever were. Besides, if we get the #1 pick and take Luck, the way Atlanta is playing, we may end up with a top 15 pick from them, this will give us a great chance to take a top tier WR in this draft. So we can end up with our QB and WR of the future.

 

As for the bust QB's coming out, look at most of the recent picks. Newton, Bradford, Stafford. All those guys are living up to and or exceeding expectation. Andrew Luck is as big of a sure thing as any player in history. He can make all the NFL level throws, he's as NFL ready as any QB coming out since Peyton Manning.

Are we even sure that Luck is the best thing for the Browns??

 

 

Watching SportsNation right now and heard for the first time the term "Suck for Luck" describing teams that are playing bad so they can draft him.

 

People are so creative.

 

You've never heard of the suck for Luck campaign? I'm nearly 110% sure that's what Indy is doing right now. They have too much talent to be playing as badly as they are right now. This is what I WISH the Browns would do.

^^hard for the d-line to get pressure when the 1+ is getting rid of the ball as quick as Hassleback was yesterday.  Minus those two big plays, I thought the defense actually played pretty well.  Tennessee only had 10 first downs the entire game.  Take away the pick-6 and the most awful tackling angles I have seen on that play to their TE and we have a very close ballgame.

 

I watched it again and Dimitri was definitely picked (illegally) on that long catch and run by Washington.  It was rather blatant as a matter of fact.  The WR lowered his shoulder into him and allowed Washington to run free.  BS..... but I'm sure we will get away with some cwap like that as the season goes on

 

Yeah, bad calls happen to and for a team all the time. There's no excuse for the poor tackling and the outright lack of speed this team has. Our weak points as a team are our age at LB, This means that those drag routes by the TE's or RB's should draw special attention from safeties or they need to start playing the nickle on basic sets in order to make up for this. There are adjustments that can be made and that would be made by a good coach. And not to be angry and hateful, but I really do HATE it when people play the "if" card. "IF" the Browns didn't give up that pick 6 and IF the Browns didn't try that trick play and IF the Browns didn't try a stupid misdirection play on a 4th and 1. IF IF IF....How about IF the Browns were a real NFL team with NFL talent we may have a shot at beating someone someday?

 

But to be honest, this loss is a good thing, that's just one more loss to go towards what our ultimate goal should be, and that's to draft Andrew Luck in the draft next year.

 

Are we even sure that Luck is the best thing for the Browns??

 

Yes he is a great college QB, but there are a good number of those that never amount to anything in the NFL.  The Browns need a playmaking WR (Little's good, but not Calvin/Andre Johnson good) like Blackmon.  That is who they should be targeting in next years draft.  If they draft Luck he is still going to have the same crappy WRs to throw to.  After WR, target LB and CB along with OL and DL depth.  There are plenty of pieces on this team.  Just not enough to make a difference yet. 

Agree completely.

 

And Luck's numbers are no better than what Brady Quinn's numbers were in college.  And BQ played a better schedule than Luck's faced.

If you are even comparing Brady Quinn with Andrew Luck than you must know NOTHING about the game. There were a lot of questions about Quinn entering the NFL, that is why so many GM's passed on him. Nobody will pass on Luck, he will be the #1 pick without question. And ND faced a harder schedule than a team in the PAC-10? I'd beg to differ about that. Quinn played Ohio State in that one bowl game and looked pretty average. The main thing about Quinn was because he was coming out of ND and he played in a pro style offense and Weiss sang his praises. That's about all I ever heard. There is not one single expert that believes Luck will be anything less than an elite QB once he enters the NFL.

Brady Quinn sucks. I dont think the Browns should go after Luck. We need receivers.

"Sports threads are not supposed to be nicey-nicey, IMHO"

 

That's a really easy opinion to have when you're not the person responsible for keeping the thread on topic and getting after people who get out of line. Let me correct myself - when you're not the person who needs to take unpaid time out of their busy life and away from their loved ones because forumers insist on making personal insults and then spend the next five posts complaining about how the forum is managed. Apparently several forumers participating in this thread need to be reminded that participation on this forum is a privilege, not a right. And the Admins have allowed sections and threads like this (non-urban discussion) to exist because we know forumers enjoy them and they can be a place to build camraderie. Believe it or not, we like to have fun and we encourage a healthy and occasionally heated debate - but too many times, people have taken things too far, particulary in this thread. Unfortunately, this thread will remain locked for the forseeable future - there are plenty of other outlets to vent about the Browns.

 

 

What is wrong with this moron?  Another person that shouldn't be behind the wheel of a moving vehicle.  He has more than enough money to have a driver or have transportation.  He should be heavily fined by the team and the team should review contracts with each player and their management so this does not happen again.

 

If I was President I would get rid of him.

 

Cleveland Browns DE Marcus Benard faces two charges after motorcycle accident

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/10/cleveland_browns_de_marcus_ben.html

 

BEREA -- Browns defensive end Marcus Benard, who wrecked his three-wheeled motorcycle on Monday, has been charged with reckless operation and driving under suspension.

I had to listen to them talking about this on the radio for 10 minutes yesterday before they said who it was.  I almost went into panic mode because, as would be typical for the Browns, I was sure it was Haden or Ward... or another one of our key starters.

I just can't take anymore of Colt McCoy throwing the ball, yes he is young but seems to me that he is regressing from his first game until now. Yes he doesn't have great recievers but I've seen my share of browns recievers being open just to be thrown over their head or into the ground. There's no reason he should be regressing from game to game, I see no improvements once so ever.

 

What's the deal with special teams and not playing Hillis, looks to me that Hardesty's been eating Popeyes chicken with his playing gloves therefor why he can't catch.

 

We definatly need to dratf a cb next year because Patterson just sucks both in tackling and coverage not to mention Sheldon Brown just flat out sucks, couldn't even outrun an elderly couple.

Good onside kick by Phil Dawson to give us a chance. Too bad our offense can only get 7 yards...

This team reminds me so much of the Buckeyes this year with the D playing well (with the exception of Patterson) and keeping us in the game with not an ounce of help from the O. This team does fight I give em that but tooo little tooo late, still bleed orange and brown. Couple more years we'll be there I strongly feel that, we as fans deserve nothing more then a winner but when we finally do win,  it will feel much much better. GO BROWNIES ! ! ! ! ! !

I'm already fatigued from watching the Browns this season. The offensive scheme has very little imagination. There's absolutely no rhythym. Colt won't/can't stand in the pocket. Colt cannot ever tell when defense is blitzing. Receivers are weak and can't get open. Boring boring football.

 

It's just ugly to have to watch this.

 

p.s. Hillis was hurt that's why Hardesty got so much time

Im having doubt about Hillis. And focusing on the FB, we really hurt ourselves letting Vickers go. He was instrumental in the running game. Marecic has no impact. Watching highlights and replays really makes this clear.

 

Wish we still had Vickers and Harrison back there personally.

I too believe letting vickers go was a huge mistake but you have PD writers and some fans that made Owen seem to be the child of some god and still do. Vickers couldn't quite catch that well but his blocking, attitude/emotion, love for the city and fans and not to mention his hatred that most of these current players lack against our rivals is what I loved most.  Shurmer and Fickle must have conjoined playbooks because I swear its the same non creative boring plays called. Well, ima still be supportive but this team is just frustrating, I'm 22 and by the end of this season I will be sharing hair color with the likes of bob barker :-D

Our defense is definitely not the problem.  They have played quite well this year, especially considering that our offense doesn't do a good job of keeping them off the field.  It could use an upgrade here or there, but with the right offensive balance, we have the makings of a playoff calibur D.  And that makes sense considering we have spent our top four picks over the last two years on defenders, all of whom have turned out to be solid picks.

 

Offense is a different story.  We really miss Steinbach.  That left side from Mack to Steinbach to Thomas was always a nice crutch to lean on the past few years.  Our "big play" reciever is MoMass.  That is a problem.  A big problem.  But the biggest issue I see with the way they are playing on the offensive side is an utter lack of rythm on hot routes.  They are not punishing teams for blitzing or playing 8 in the box.  Consequently, teams are stacking against the run and not letting a pocket form on the drops.  I honestly can't tell if it is Colt, the recievers, the system, or any combination thereof.  I also noticed that the Raiders had the Browns sets keyed, flowing in the direction of the play right from the snap.  And can we please think up more ways to get Cribbs the ball!

Our defense is definitely not the problem.  They have played quite well this year, especially considering that our offense doesn't do a good job of keeping them off the field.  It could use an upgrade here or there, but with the right offensive balance, we have the makings of a playoff calibur D.  And that makes sense considering we have spent our top four picks over the last two years on defenders, all of whom have turned out to be solid picks.

 

Offense is a different story.  We really miss Steinbach.  That left side from Mack to Steinbach to Thomas was always a nice crutch to lean on the past few years.  Our "big play" reciever is MoMass.  That is a problem.  A big problem.  But the biggest issue I see with the way they are playing on the offensive side is an utter lack of rythm on hot routes.  They are not punishing teams for blitzing or playing 8 in the box.  Consequently, teams are stacking against the run and not letting a pocket form on the drops.  I honestly can't tell if it is Colt, the recievers, the system, or any combination thereof.  I also noticed that the Raiders had the Browns sets keyed, flowing in the direction of the play right from the snap.  And can we please think up more ways to get Cribbs the ball!

Well said couldn't had said it any better.

...  But the biggest issue I see with the way they are playing on the offensive side is an utter lack of rythm on hot routes.  They are not punishing teams for blitzing or playing 8 in the box.  Consequently, teams are stacking against the run and not letting a pocket form on the drops.  I honestly can't tell if it is Colt, the recievers, the system, or any combination thereof. 

...

I thought the answer to the blitz is to "call" running plays.

The Raiders are a pretty good team, but the Browns are increasingly looking like a trainwreck. I have lost confidence in my 7-9 prediction. Feels like another 4-5 win season, unless we get handed games on silver platters (a la Miami).

I'm giving them until at least mid season before braking out the woe is me hat.  But it is hard to argue that Shurmur doesn't look overwhelmed right now.

...  But the biggest issue I see with the way they are playing on the offensive side is an utter lack of rythm on hot routes.  They are not punishing teams for blitzing or playing 8 in the box.  Consequently, teams are stacking against the run and not letting a pocket form on the drops.  I honestly can't tell if it is Colt, the recievers, the system, or any combination thereof. 

...

I thought the answer to the blitz is to "call" running plays.

 

You can sometimes catch a team off guard and get your back quickly to the second level if he beats the blitz, but that is risky.  The better and more common strategy is to cross a WR or TE into the spot the blitzers are evacuating in coverage and get the ball to him in space for a potentially big gain.  Another strategy is to run your RB out in the flat, which spreads the field.  The idea of a blitz is to send more people than the offense can block, which naturally leaves someone uncovered going out for the pass.... or at least gets you some favorable one on one matchups.

I used to play football simulation games when I was young.  The game was like an Avalon Hill war game, where you assessed the two sides, rolled the dice, then looked at a table to see the results.    I remember the run play had high odds against the blitz. 

 

I imagine that the offense would use "pulling guards" to overload one side of the line, then send the running back.

Im sorry but Josh Cribbs is not a playmaker. He drops passes and hasn't had a kick return for a touchdown in years. And last year he was a below average returner.

 

McCoy has to be on the ground more than any other QB in the league. Horrible blocking. Haden is looking good.

 

Nice 52 and 53 yard field goals by Phil Dawson. Our best player

Defense looked solid today but offense is so weak.  No playmakers at any position.  No excuse for the big names they have on the o-line.  I've seen pee-wee games with more action

I just finished watching the game. Cleveland's defense won the game for them, but the offense on both sides..... :sleep:

One positive for the browns O is Hardesty.  Not many holes for him but he ran hard.

Glad we got a win but that game might have set football back 30 years. The guys on the CBS halftime show for the steelers/cardinals game were laughing during the half  second of 'highlights'

 

Only the browns can make me feel the same after wins and loses

I would have liked to have seen a bit more of Ogbannaya, the guy they got off of Houston's practice squad.  Every time he got the ball, he really fought for that extra yard.

Trying to find positives, the defense played lights out today, allowed 137 total yards and 9 1st downs.

 

And I'll take an ugly win over a pretty loss any week.

My wife and I were at the game today.  Thanks to everyone who suggested the green road RTA station, that worked out perfectly!  The game was a bit of a snoozer... but at least they won.  I still can't believe the two blocked kicks, and one was a chip shot!!  Thank goodness that Seattle receiver threw himself out of bounds, that would have been the game right there.  One stat the Browns totally dominated: Time of possession.

 

Really cool part:  Leaving the stadium, at the tail end of the crowd, Bernie Kosar walks past in touching distance.  He even turned around and said hi.  Now that was cool.

 

Pictures:

 

Good view of the convention center hole:

 

 

The crane:

 

A parting shot as we exited:

 

On the train, back to the car:

Yeah.  They won!

 

My wife and I were at the game today.  Thanks to everyone who suggested the green road RTA station, that worked out perfectly!  The game was a bit of a snoozer... but at least they won.  I still can't believe the two blocked kicks, and one was a chip shot!!  Thank goodness that Seattle receiver threw himself out of bounds, that would have been the game right there.  One stat the Browns totally dominated: Time of possession.

 

Really cool part:  Leaving the stadium, at the tail end of the crowd, Bernie Kosar walks past in touching distance.  He even turned around and said hi.  Now that was cool.

 

Pictures:

 

Good view of the convention center hole:

 

 

The crane:

 

A parting shot as we exited:

 

On the train, back to the car:

 

Wow the fans are really taking the "orange & brown" serious.  Dude in the first picture is "orange".