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Glad to see the Guardians are getting close to first again. 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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  • roman totale XVII
    roman totale XVII

    Guardians it is! The font and logo either need some tweaking, or will take a while to grow on me, but the name is a winner.  

  • NorthShore64
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    There were other good options, but I've always though this was the way to go. I'm happy its over. Let's move past it. I'm here for Baseball, and I'm here for Cleveland. 

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Brian Shaw needs to go.

hmm, we have the starting pitching advantage on tonight & tomorrow’s red sox, so lets go guards wake up them bats!

14 hours ago, mrnyc said:

hmm, we have the starting pitching advantage on tonight & tomorrow’s red sox, so lets go guards wake up them bats!

Just squeaked it out last night!  

Just win, baby.  Hammy off again for the rest of the road trip.  wth?

 

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That game was wild. And against Boston no less - I swear we've won like 9.2 percent of games against them the last 15 years.

Yeah, Fenway is usually a house of horrors for Cleveland.

aug 2 trade deadline approaching — rumors blurb via espn:

 

 

What is Cleveland's deadline strategy? 

 

The Cleveland Guardians have two players who could be headed to free agency in the fall -- catcher Austin Hedges and reliever Bryan Shaw -- and with some contenders looking for catching depth, the Guardians could theoretically listen to offers. But with the promotion of 23-year-old catching prospect Bo Naylor from Triple-A to the big leagues seemingly inevitable, the Guardians will need Hedges to help instruct Naylor. Cleveland is currently in the scrum of four teams trying to push into the group of wild-card leaders, and at the moment, the Guardians are 3½ games behind the Twins -- so they'll look for possible upgrades before the deadline, but probably nothing too expensive. -- Buster Olney

47 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

they'll look for possible upgrades before the deadline, but probably nothing too expensive. -- Buster Olney

That seems about right -- the front office isn't going to be aggressive, but they'll listen to offers.  For better or worse.

this crazy yo-yo team is confounding, but entertaining. 

 

i dk if they can make a playoff spot -- maybe, but consistency just isn't their thing. 😅

 

 

injury report -- as of today:

 

 

NAME--------------------POS-----DATE-----STATUS-----COMMENT

Owen Miller.........................1BJul 31Day-To-DayMiller (forearm) is out of the lineup for Sunday's game against the Rays.

Josh Naylor.........................1BJul 31Day-To-DayNaylor (ankle) is out of the lineup for Sunday's game against the Rays.

Oscar Gonzalez..................RFJul 2910-Day ILGonzalez (intercostal) began a rehab assignment at Double-A Akron on Tuesday and has gone 1-for-5 with a walk and two runs scored.

Aaron Civale........................SPJul 2215-Day ILCivale (wrist) met with a hand specialist this week, Zack Meisel of The Athletic reports.

Cody Morris.........................SPJul 1360-Day ILMorris (shoulder) began a rehab assignment Tuesday with the Guardians' rookie-level Arizona Complex League affiliate, working a scoreless inning and striking out two.

Marcos Gonzalez................SSJul 11Day-to-DayGonzalez (oblique) was placed on the 7-day injured list at Double-A Akron on Monday.

Anthony Gose......................RPJul 315-Day IL

Daniel Espino.......................SPJun 26Day-to-DayEspino (knee) has resumed throwing.

Christian Miguel Cairo........SSJun 11Day-to-Day

Ethan Hankins.....................SPDec 7Day-to-Day

 

First place in a few hours? 

 

Let's go Tigers.

Bo Naylor is the best name in baseball

3 hours ago, YABO713 said:

Bo Naylor is the best name in baseball

 

 

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I see most of the contenders picked up someone of note before the trade deadline - but the Guardians front office made only one very minor trade and signaled the fan base not to take this season too seriously.

Too bad because the AL central was there for the taking. Even one bat to help this lineup would’ve been welcome.  

There never seems to be any sense of urgency which is quite maddening.

To be fair, this season does seem to be about getting guys up from AAA and seeing what they have. Making a big trade kind of scuttles that plan.

I saw a report that the front office believes that they'll have their young core intact with majors experience ascending when the rest of the division is regressing. Which shouldn't be all that surprising, this is how they've operated. 

 

The difference will be, this time we'll have that Blitzer money behind the team during this run so hopefully we can keep the core together longer and make a play at a big name if needed. 

8 hours ago, Ineffable_Matt said:

To be fair, this season does seem to be about getting guys up from AAA and seeing what they have. Making a big trade kind of scuttles that plan.

And that may be part of the problem - it shouldn’t be an “either-or” binary choice when you’re in a weak division and within one game of first place as August began. 
 

Tito is an all-time great manager, but he’s also a total company man toting  the company line when he says “ it might muddy the water to make a trade”  
 

And as for the front office brass predicting their future superstars (quite an assumption) will be ascending as the other teams in the division “descend” - that’s more company wishful thinking and nothing more. Yeah, we’ve got prospects - but the future is definitely a question mark. 
 

The fans deserve a chance to have the best product on the field (within reason) and the Guardians could’ve made a move to improve the team without giving away “the farm”.   
 

Fans on social media haven’t been kind to the Guardians lack of action - and I think they’re perfectly justified.  

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1 hour ago, CleveFan said:

And that may be part of the problem - it shouldn’t be an “either-or” binary choice when you’re in a weak division and within one game of first place as August began. 
 

Tito is an all-time great manager, but he’s also a total company man toting  the company line when he says “ it might muddy the water to make a trade”  
 

And as for the front office brass predicting their future superstars (quite an assumption) will be ascending as the other teams in the division “descend” - that’s more company wishful thinking and nothing more. Yeah, we’ve got prospects - but the future is definitely a question mark. 
 

The fans deserve a chance to have the best product on the field (within reason) and the Guardians could’ve made a move to improve the team without giving away “the farm”.   
 

Fans on social media haven’t been kind to the Guardians lack of action - and I think they’re perfectly justified.  

Okay, of the players who got traded, which ones would you have gone after, and what would you give up?

 

The Guardians are what, three or four games over .500? What move could they realistically have made that would put them over the top in the division? Or put them ahead of the Astros or Yankees?

19 minutes ago, Ineffable_Matt said:

Okay, of the players who got traded, which ones would you have gone after, and what would you give up?

 

The Guardians are what, three or four games over .500? What move could they realistically have made that would put them over the top in the division? Or put them ahead of the Astros or Yankees?

Not a single thing. There's no reason to get rid of rising talent for a bat today. They'll make the playoffs this year, barely. They'll be real contenders in 2-3 years with the talent they have now. That will be the time to buy. 

3 hours ago, KFM44107 said:

Not a single thing. There's no reason to get rid of rising talent for a bat today. They'll make the playoffs this year, barely. They'll be real contenders in 2-3 years with the talent they have now. That will be the time to buy. 

The ONLY reason to make a play today is to silence all the "Tribe till I die" haters.   If the Guardians make the World Series in their first year, everyone will be a supporter and the naysayers over the name change will slip into the fringes.   It also won't hurt that the team will have a swag selling bonanza, as everyone rushes to grab the new gear.  

I’m glad you guys have the future all figured out lol.  Sports rarely plays out exactly as predictors think - we may or may not make playoffs this year (barely). I doubt it, but I hope I’m wrong. 

 

 I don’t know all the up and coming players in the farm system, but I’ve heard we’re pretty loaded with talent.  Acquiring a Sean Murphy, a great defensive catcher with a pretty strong bat would’ve been my guy to bring in .
 

I agree - you’re not catching the likes of the Yankees or Astros, but you might’ve accelerated the Guards arrival as a playoff team by a year with a key addition like Murphy.  
 

 Of course, the devil is in the details - you can’t give up too much and mortgage the future - I understand all that.  So, the Guards may have made the right move by not trading - but I do think we have a fan base that is a bit less satisfied than some of you good fans here at Urban Ohio. 

^That’s all fair comment and I agree that Sean Murphy would’ve been a great addition this window.  
I do trust the front office though. All the social media ‘Dolans are cheap’/ Wahoo forever’ blowhards are older guys in places like Parma who haven’t been to a game since the 90s. This team has a decent shot at winning the division this season (with annihilation in the playoffs), but a very strong shot at dominating it for the next 5 years and being able to go deep into the post season. 

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the guards have been going win for loss with the twins, so no ground gained or lost.

 

so plesac vs astros verlander tonight.

 

i like zach, but lets b real this could b immediately ugly.

yep blanked by the verlander ‘stros.

 

ugh.

 

but at least minny lost too.

 

and so the stasis continues …

It would be nice if the Guards had a stud pitcher like that.

^ well civale aint chopped liver, he would definitely be a big help, but hes on the irl.

 

also of course that doesnt help no runs. ie., hedges is a great catcher, but not hitting. they need like three positions to pick it up in the hitting department.

 

edit — i looked up civale return and thankfully it said sometime this month.

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They need to find a catcher that can at least hit his weight.   And they need to add at least one big bat.  Not sure what the problem is with Reyes.  If he can't figure it out, he will never be back.

On 8/3/2022 at 7:51 AM, Ineffable_Matt said:

To be fair, this season does seem to be about getting guys up from AAA and seeing what they have. Making a big trade kind of scuttles that plan.

 

Agreed - the years we actually have a shot, the front office acts. I.e. Andrew Miller and Josh Donaldson

UGHHHHHH

 

It always feels like from game one, the Twins are just a little ahead. And when did the White Sox become a 500+ team?

 

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Hot as balls at the game today and a fabulous win in a very good game of baseball. McKenzie was brilliant and Clase was Clase. I was gonna be happy not being swept this weekend, so a split was as good as it could get. One game behind the Twins. We go to the Tigers and they go to the Dodgers for the next three. First place by Thursday night…?

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If you can't cut the mustard, you'll never ketchup.

Worth staying up past my bedtime! Good to be back in first.

(clears throat)

 

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Whoever said it's lonely on the top didn't play in the AL Central. It feels GREAT.

Let's hope they can score a few runs for Plesac today.

On 8/5/2022 at 3:15 PM, LibertyBlvd said:

They need to find a catcher that can at least hit his weight.   And they need to add at least one big bat.  Not sure what the problem is with Reyes.  If he can't figure it out, he will never be back.

I'm surprised that he's faded away without more discussion/comments, but Reyes is now a Cub.

https://www.cubshq.com/cubs-baseball/story/cubs-trade-for-outfielder-franmil-reyes-with-guardians-19713

Win today, don’t get swept in Toronto at the weekend and then take 3 out of 4 against the kitties next week. That’s what I’m hoping for.

Gonna be an exciting run-in I feel. I wouldn’t count out the White Sox yet either. 

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Should be a good series, and let's see who Minnesota is play--

 

How the EXPLETIVE SQUARED is LA so bad this year?

Mark Shapiro's done a great job with the Jays, now he just needs a manager who handles pitchers as well as Tito.

 

The Angels have two superstars (Shohei would likely be a Dodger if they had had a DH when he came over), otherwise they are the A's.  

 

I'm mostly following my Greensboro Bats (5X5 rotisserie half dynasty) this year, since I'm finally contending.   This puts me at a dilemma when playing the Jays....

On 8/9/2022 at 10:29 AM, mrnyc said:

oh nooos —- the guardians demoted mustard to the minors  😂

 

 

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/34372375

 

I don't get why he's the color of generic mustard and not of Bertman's.

9 minutes ago, E Rocc said:

 

I don't get why he's the color of generic mustard and not of Bertman's.

 

i know. i dont get it either. its been like that. what a weird missed opporunity. that might be why he got sent down.

23 minutes ago, E Rocc said:

 

I don't get why he's the color of generic mustard and not of Bertman's.

 Aren't those races sort of an advertisement for Sugardale?   If so, they probably don't want to promote another product. 

DFA Eli Morgan

Guardians are 9-9 vs. the Tigers this year.  Why are they having such a hard time with them?  I know they got hosed last night, but they still could have won. 

It’s basically that, for some reason, we’ve struggled against their awful starting pitching, allowing them to go deep into games. They generally get torched within 3-5 innings. Conversely, the Tigers bullpen is actually one of the best in MLB, but the game’s usually gone by the time they come in. 

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C'mon, Guardians, let's score some runs.

This is some 8th inning.

Wow--that was great. I was hoping for a homerun just now--we would have had 9 runs in the 8th!

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