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^Damn straight. I wore my Tigers hat with as much pride when they were on the top of the world going into the All-Star break as I did when they were eating Cleveland's wake 8 games back at the end of September. The point is showing pride for your hometown first, its particular sports team's millionaire athletes last.

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Playoffs a hit for city finances

Posted by Susan Vinella October 22, 2007 21:00PM

Categories: Top Story

Joshua Gunter - The Plain Dealer

 

Cleveland has a million-and-a-half reasons to thank the Indians for their playoff run.  The city expects to receive about $1.5 million in admission taxes and parking fees from the Tribe's five sold-out, post-season games at Jacobs Field, Cleveland finance director Sharon Dumas said Monday...

 

Read more at www.cleveland.com

The series changed when Manny hit the homerun and stood at the plate in game 4.  They should have plunked him the 1st at bat in game 5 to let him know his antics aren't appreciated.  Everyone was saying not to because you wouldn't want to make the Red Sox mad.  Then he hits that long single and stands there admiring it.  They were laughing at the Indians.

The Indians lost the series because their big bats were silent except for Victor, and a bit of Garko.  My 6 year old cousin could hit better then Hafner this series, and Sizemore looked like a pony league player.  Also, our "aces" didn't help us much, especially CC. 

 

They won some of these games with smoke and mirrors, guys like Lofton hitting homeruns is just something you cannot depend on to win a series.

 

They MUST address the closer situation this offseason, along with getting an outfield power bat to go with Sizemore and Gutiérrez. 

 

Lofton, Byrd, & Borowski are the major free agents they have, with others like Nixon and Aaron Fultz not nearly as important.

 

Bobby Abreu anyone?

i hear tod jones is a free agent.......

So, how do you explain to young baseball fans when it is appropriate to throw a pitch at a batter's head?  This is supposed to be a genteel game with a high standard of sportsmanship.

 

"I'm going to bean that Pugsley kid--cuz he's a boogerhead!"

So, how do you explain to young baseball fans when it is appropriate to throw a pitch at a batter's head?  This is supposed to be a genteel game with a high standard of sportsmanship.

 

It's never appropriate to throw at a batter's head.. EVER.. anyone who has played baseball at even a HS level knows that.  The reason why a guy like Pedro Martinez would do so is because he played in the AL and knew they couldn't throw at him.

Has anyone on this board ever been hit by a fastball?  If so, you wouldn't be saying pitchers should be "plunking" batters.

 

I've been hit by pitches & line drives & it doesn't feel good at all.  Can't Imagine being hit by 96+ MPH!!

 

So, how do you explain to young baseball fans when it is appropriate to throw a pitch at a batter's head?  This is supposed to be a genteel game with a high standard of sportsmanship.

 

 

so all he's supposed to learn is how to showboat (like Manny) or run their mouth like every other professional athelete?

Has anyone on this board ever been hit by a fastball?  If so, you wouldn't be saying pitchers should be "plunking" batters.

 

I've been hit by pitches & line drives & it doesn't feel good at all.  Can't Imagine being hit by 96+ MPH!!

 

 

Agreed, hell, even a breaking ball still hurts.

I really hate Boston Red Sox fans.  It is a clever trick to be simultaneously extremely cocky and extremal whiny about the Yankees

They're still whining about Gillette too.

Players name Sabathia AL's best pitcher

Posted by Mark Gillispie October 24, 2007 14:32PM

 

The Indians' C.C. Sabathia was named the best pitcher in the American League in a vote of major league players...

 

Read more at www.cleveland.com

 

2008 INDIANS SCHEDULE

 

MARCH

March 31 vCWS 3:05

 

APRIL

April 2 vCWS 7:05

April 3 vCWS 12:05

April 4 @OAK 10:05

April 5 @OAK 4:05

April 6 @OAK 4:05

April 7 @LAA 10:05

April 8 @LAA 10:05

April 9 @LAA 3:35

April 11 vOAK 7:05

April 12 vOAK 7:05

April 13 vOAK 1:05

April 14 vBOS 7:05

April 15 vBOS 7:05

April 16 vDET 7:05

April 17 vDET 7:05

April 18 @MIN 8:10

April 19 @MIN 7:10

April 20 @MIN 2:10

April 22 @KC 8:10

April 23 @KC 8:10

April 24 @KC 8:10

April 25 vNYY 7:05

April 26 vNYY 7:05

April 27 vNYY 1:05

April 28 vNYY 7:05

April 29 vSEA 7:05

April 30 vSEA 7:05

MAY

May 1 vSEA 7:05

May 2 vKC 7:05

May 3 vKC 7:05

May 4 vKC 1:05

May 6 @NYY 7:05

May 7 @NYY 7:05

May 8 @NYY 1:05

May 9 vTOR 7:05

May 10 vTOR 7:05

May 11 vTOR 1:05

May 12 vTOR 7:05

May 13 vOAK 7:05

May 14 vOAK 7:05

May 15 vOAK 12:05

May 16 @CIN 7:10

May 17 @CIN 7:10

May 18 @CIN 1:15

May 20 @CWS 8:11

May 21 @CWS 8:11

May 22 @CWS 8:11

May 23 vTEX 7:05

May 24 vTEX 7:05

May 25 vTEX 1:05

May 26 vCWS 7:05

May 27 vCWS 7:05

May 28 vCWS 12:05

May 30 @KC 8:10

May 31 @KC 7:10

 

 

JUNE

June 1 @KC 2:10

June 2 @TEX 8:05

June 3 @TEX 8:05

June 4 @TEX 8:05

June 5 @TEX 8:05

June 6 @DET 7:05

June 7 @DET 7:05

June 8 @DET 1:05

June 9 @DET 7:05

June 10 vMIN 7:05

June 11 vMIN 7:05

June 12 vMIN 7:05

June 13 vSD 7:05

June 14 vSD 7:05

June 15 vSD 1:05

June 17 @COL 9:05

June 18 @COL 9:05

June 19 @COL 9:05

June 20 @LAD 10:40

June 21 @LAD TBD

June 22 @LAD TBD

June 24 vSF 7:05

June 25 vSF 7:05

June 26 vSF 7:05

June 27 vCIN 7:05

June 28 vCIN 7:05

June 29 vCIN 1:05

June 30 @CWS 8:11

 

JULY

July 1 @CWS 8:11

July 2 @CWS 8:11

July 4 @MIN 7:10

July 5 @MIN 7:10

July 6 @MIN 2:10

July 8 @DET 7:05

July 9 @DET 7:05

July 10 vTB 7:05

July 11 vTB 7:05

July 12 vTB 7:05

July 13 vTB 1:05

July 14-17 All-Star Break

July 18 @SEA 10:10

July 19 @SEA 10:10

July 20 @SEA 4:10

July 21 @LAA 10:05

July 22 @LAA 10:05

July 23 @LAA 3:35

July 25 vMIN 7:05

July 26 vMIN 7:05

July 27 vMIN 1:05

July 28 vDET 7:05

July 29 vDET 7:05

July 30 vDET 7:05

July 31 vDET 12:05

 

AUGUST

August 1 @MIN 8:10

August 2 @MIN 7:10

August 3 @MIN 2:10

August 4 @TB 7:10

August 5 @TB 7:10

August 6 @TB 12:40

August 8 @TOR 7:07

August 9 @TOR 1:07

August 10 @TOR 1:07

August 11 vBAL 7:05

August 12 vBAL 7:05

August 13 vBAL 7:05

August 14 vBAL 7:05

August 15 vLAA 7:05

August 16 vLAA 7:05

August 17 vLAA 1:05

August 19 vKC 7:05

August 20 vKC 7:05

August 21 vKC 12:05

August 22 @TEX 8:05

August 23 @TEX 8:05

August 24 @TEX 8:05

August 25 @DET 7:05

August 26 @DET 7:05

August 27 @DET 7:05

August 29 vSEA 7:05

August 30 vSEA 7:05

August 31 vSEA 1:05

 

SEPTEMBER

September 1 vCWS 7:05

September 2 vCWS 7:05

September 3 vCWS 12:05

September 5 @KC 8:10

September 6 @KC 7:10

September 7 @KC 2:10

September 8 @BAL 7:05

September 9 @BAL 7:05

September 10 @BAL 7:05

September 11 @BAL 7:05

September 12 vKC 7:05

September 13 vKC 7:05

September 14 vKC 1:05

September 15 vMIN 7:05

September 16 vMIN 7:05

September 17 vMIN 7:05

September 19 vDET 7:05

September 20 vDET 7:05

September 21 vDET 1:05

September 22 @BOS 7:05

September 23 @BOS 7:05

September 24 @BOS 7:05

September 25 @BOS 7:05

September 26 @CWS 8:11

September 27 @CWS 7:05

September 28 @CWS 2:05

what idiots.  Less home games in March/April more in July/August.  Have we not learned anything or is this a ploy for us to complain about placing a dome on the Jake?

So, how do you explain to young baseball fans when it is appropriate to throw a pitch at a batter's head?  This is supposed to be a genteel game with a high standard of sportsmanship.

 

It's never appropriate to throw at a batter's head.. EVER.. anyone who has played baseball at even a HS level knows that.  The reason why a guy like Pedro Martinez would do so is because he played in the AL and knew they couldn't throw at him.

 

Agreed... We Clevelanders have historical memory our own Ray Chapman who, in 1920, was the only MLB player ever killed in the course of a game; by a Carl Mays "submarine" beanball at the Yankees' Polo Grounds ... The result?  MLB was on its way to batting helmets; as for the grieving Indians?... their 1st World Series trophy.

Geez, Boston is up 13-1 in the 5th inning of game 1. They are ridiculous.

From Fox 8: www.fox8.com

 

Shapiro Chosen Sporting News Executive of Year

Last Edited: Monday, 05 Nov 2007, 9:52 PM EST

Created: Monday, 05 Nov 2007, 9:52 PM EST

 

ORLANDO, Fla.  --  Cleveland Indians general manager Mark Shapiro was selected major league executive of the year by The Sporting News and presented with the award as the GMs' annual meetings began Monday.

 

Shapiro, whose team lost the AL championship series in seven games to the Boston Red Sox, received 13 of 47 votes from major league executives and was followed by Colorado GM Dan O'Dowd with 11.

Indians pick up $7.5 million option on Byrd

Updated: November 6, 2007, 4:09 PM ET

 

CLEVELAND -- Pitcher Paul Byrd, whose admitted use of human growth hormone served as a backdrop to the end of Cleveland's season, had his $7.5 million club option for 2008 picked up by the Indians on Tuesday...

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3096927

Cleveland Indians pick up options on Paul Byrd, Joe Borowski

Posted by Paul Hoynes November 06, 2007 11:24AM

 

 

Orlando, Fla. -- The Indians have exercised the 2008 club options on right-handers Paul Byrd and Joe Borowski and left-hander Aaron Fultz...

-- Paul Hoynes

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2007/11/cleveland_indians_pick_up_opti.html

GMs vote 25-5 to use replay to aid home run decisions

ESPN.com news services

Updated: November 6, 2007, 5:18 PM ET

 

 

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Baseball could have a new position next year: replay judge.

 

General managers recommended for the first time Tuesday that instant replay be used to help umpires make difficult decisions.

 

The proposal, approved by a 25-5 vote, was limited to boundary calls -- whether potential home runs are fair or foul, whether balls go over fences or hit the tops and bounce back, and whether fans interfere with possible homers...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3096923

Replay sounds expensive.  They should pay for it out of the Red Sox and the Yankees' budget.  The Yankees have a boatload of cable tv revenue, it sounds like a natural accomodation.

So if Byrd is going to be back (assuming no long suspension), are we looking at the same starting five next year?  What does this mean for Cliff Lee and Sowers?  I can't imagine Cliff has much trade potential after last year, what are we going to do with 7 starters, with an 8th (a healthy Adam Miller) on the way?

Replay sounds expensive.  They should pay for it out of the Red Sox and the Yankees' budget.  The Yankees have a boatload of cable tv revenue, it sounds like a natural accomodation.

 

how so expensive? every major league stadium has TV cameras set up (even if the game isn't broadcast)

 

now questec machines, that's another story....

Cleveland Indians preparing contract for C.C. Sabathia

Thursday, November 08, 2007

Paul Hoynes - Plain Dealer Reporter

 

Orlando, Fla. -- Indians General Manager Mark Shapiro is preparing a contract for C.C. Sabathia, one of the favorites to win the American League Cy Young award next week. The first people to see the contract won't be Sabathia and his agents, they'll be Indians owner Larry Dolan and his son, Paul, the team president...

 

"If I win, I'm smart," Dolan said. "If I lose, I'm going to be dumb again."

 

 

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1194514262196500.xml&coll=2

trade lee and marte, along with maybe a crowe for jason bay.  he is good friends with sizemore and would like to play in cleveland.  huntington (pitt GM) former indians assistant GM, would do it...

 

2008 lineup:

sizemore

cabrera

martinez

hafner

bay

garko

peralta

guttierez

blake

 

trade lee and marte, along with maybe a crowe for jason bay.  he is good friends with sizemore and would like to play in cleveland.  huntington (pitt GM) former indians assistant GM, would do it...

 

 

Yeah because the trade value for lee and marte are truly worth what jason bay does and is capable of (especially in a current lineup with literally zero protection)

 

So essentially you're suggesting that Huntington will "cheer" for his former team the tribe by trading away one of the better Outfields for two srubs?

Lee is 29 and has an 18 win season.. I'd hardly call him a scrub, just someone who had some injury problems last year.

Lee is 29 and has an 18 win season.. I'd hardly call him a scrub, just someone who had some injury problems last year.

 

from my perspective looking at the whole exhibit, his numbers over his career aren't worth Jason Bay type caliber player. Also he's 29, he should be in his prime. I'd hold onto him, give him one more year and he's relatively cheap (but expensive to keep in the minors).

Sabathia first Indian since Perry to win Cy Young

 

Nice Associated Press article today.

 

 

congrats CC!

Congrats.. there goes another couple million to CC and his new fat contract he'll get, even after choking in the post-season.

Congrats.. there goes another couple million to CC and his new fat contract he'll get, even after choking in the post-season.

 

i'm also assuming he had some type of cy young votes bonus structured into his current contract maybe?

$100,000 bringing him up to 12 million for next year

I like.  Though how the editors didn't catch Kim Crow's mistake about Shapiro is beyond me.

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2007/11/indians_unveil_new_uniforms_fo.html

 

Indians unveil new uniforms for 2008

Posted by Kim Crow November 19, 2007 10:22AM

Categories: Indians

# Cleveland Indians Photo Photo gallery: Indians unveil new uniforms

Isn't this curious timing? Just weeks after PDQ asked readers to redesign the Cleveland Indians uniform, the Tribe front office unveils a new look for its alternate home jersey...

 

Now THOSE kick ass

A black hat with a block "C"?  I don't like it.  It could be any city whose name starts with C.

Bring back the 70's!!!

A black hat with a block "C"?  I don't like it.  It could be any city whose name starts with C.

 

Uhhh yeah.. because I always get so confused between the Mets & Yankees by their hats..??

Bring back the 70's!!!

 

yeah, if there's a "C" they should use, I would have leaned towards that one.

I think the whole idea is to replicate the 20's era uniforms.. not the 20's era uniform with a 70's cap.

That was a given, is this better?

No, in fact, it's not, it's God ugly..

Cleveland Indians sign Japanese reliever Masahide Kobayashi

Posted by Paul Hoynes November 20, 2007 13:09PM

Categories: Breaking News, Indians

Updated: Tuesday, Nov. 20, 2:45 p.m.

 

The Indians have signed Japanese right-hander Masahide Kobayashi to a two-year deal with a club option for 2010 to strengthen their bullpen. He was in Cleveland today to take a physical and meet the media...

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2007/11/cleveland_indians_close_to_sig.html

kobayashi does not sound like that great of a pitcher....but he is hell on wheels with the hot dogs  :wink:

 

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re the unis/caps, i love those fire engine red 70's era "flintstones" style unis/caps. what the heck bring'em back!

 

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Yeah.. the 70's was such a great era for baseball uniforms:

 

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Clement drawing some interest

From: ESPN Insider

 

Interested: Indians? Pirates? Padres? Blue Jays? Diamondbacks? Rockies?

 

The Pirates are among the six teams interested in free-agent starter Matt Clement, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports.  The Blue Jays, Padres, Indians, Diamondbacks and Rockies have also contacted Clement, who is returning from shoulder surgery.  The 33-year-old right-hander last pitched in June 2006 for Boston...

 

More at www.espn.com

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