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Actually, I think that's either nothing or a good sign for Cincinnati.  GE is already locating its global operations center in Cincinnati, so they clearly aren't too miffed about this situation.  Also, as much as I dislike Kasich and would love to blame him for something like this, we're talking about the votes of an out-going governor, who would probably already be gone by the time such a move would take place.  Either this leak is an indicator that Cincinnati is actually in the running, and its a message to the current and next round of decision makers that they need to get their act together, or Cincinnati was never in the running and this is a scare tactic to get either Connecticut or the actual favorite to strengthen their offer.

 

Also, I believe that the House still has to vote on the export-import bank, but I could be wrong because I don't follow these things that closely.  If that is the case, then this is probably just GE trying to get some attention on that issue and some last minute support, in which case it has nothing to do with GE's potential relocation.

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I've seen a ton of very liberal friends on Facebook and elsewhere up in arms about the Ex-Im/Kasich/GE situation. I don’t think anyone complaining really knows what it is – they just want to attack Kasich (and Cranley to some extent). I encourage people to at least browse the Wikipedia article before joining the brigade. The Export Import Bank is something that is ideologically right wing – the main criticism is that it puts corporate special interests ahead of those of the average taxpayer.  They finance foreign entities who otherwise couldn’t get financing, so that they can buy US made goods, with the intent being job creation. Usually the left wing would be up in arms about that, but they aren’t because they don’t want to take Kasich’s side and admit he is a very moderate Republican. 

^I'd like to believe you, but I'll go ahead and burst the bubble instead....

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2015/09/14/official-confirms-cincinnati-lost-a-shot-at-ge.html

 

 

You're ignoring this section of that article:

 

a third source who is familiar with GE’s thinking said there were other major factors that presented significant obstacles to the corporation putting its headquarters here. The elected officials' position was one, but the fact that Ohio already has a large number of GE workers, the most of any other state, as well as the lack of international flights at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, were also big reasons Ohio was ruled out, according to the source.

 

The situation at CVG seems to be a much more likely candidate for deterring a company like GE from relocating its HQ to Cincinnati.  That's a long term problem.  Kasich will be gone by the time GE starts building a new office somewhere.  GE is just drumming up interest in (and outrage about) the export/import bank, something that most people have never even heard of.

^I'd like to believe you, but I'll go ahead and burst the bubble instead....

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2015/09/14/official-confirms-cincinnati-lost-a-shot-at-ge.html

 

 

You're ignoring this section of that article:

 

a third source who is familiar with GE’s thinking said there were other major factors that presented significant obstacles to the corporation putting its headquarters here. The elected officials' position was one, but the fact that Ohio already has a large number of GE workers, the most of any other state, as well as the lack of international flights at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, were also big reasons Ohio was ruled out, according to the source.

 

The situation at CVG seems to be a much more likely candidate for deterring a company like GE from relocating its HQ to Cincinnati.  That's a long term problem.  Kasich will be gone by the time GE starts building a new office somewhere.  GE is just drumming up interest in (and outrage about) the export/import bank, something that most people have never even heard of.

 

Yeah.  I'm curious to hear more from you guys on this.  But if CVG were such a deterrent, why locate the NAGOC here?  Does that employee profile not travel?

^I'd like to believe you, but I'll go ahead and burst the bubble instead....

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2015/09/14/official-confirms-cincinnati-lost-a-shot-at-ge.html

 

 

You're ignoring this section of that article:

 

a third source who is familiar with GE’s thinking said there were other major factors that presented significant obstacles to the corporation putting its headquarters here. The elected officials' position was one, but the fact that Ohio already has a large number of GE workers, the most of any other state, as well as the lack of international flights at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, were also big reasons Ohio was ruled out, according to the source.

 

The situation at CVG seems to be a much more likely candidate for deterring a company like GE from relocating its HQ to Cincinnati.  That's a long term problem.  Kasich will be gone by the time GE starts building a new office somewhere.  GE is just drumming up interest in (and outrage about) the export/import bank, something that most people have never even heard of.

 

Yeah.  I'm curious to hear more from you guys on this.  But if CVG were such a deterrent, why locate the NAGOC here?  Does that employee profile not travel?

 

If GE HQ would have come to Cincy, the airlines operating out of CVG would have adjusted accordingly.

 

Given the fact that there is a lot of excess room there from the Delta days, I can't imagine CVG being the real issue.

 

 

And to be honest, I can't imagine GE leaving Fairfield, CT either. Connecticut will figure out a way to get GE the tax incentives it wants. And it would be very hard to draw the kind of people that lead GE from the rich CT suburbs of NYC to.... someplace like Cincy.

 

All that's happening is a giant game of chicken. And this is exactly why corporate welfare reform needs to happen.

 

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And to be honest, I can't imagine GE leaving Fairfield, CT either. Connecticut will figure out a way to get GE the tax incentives it wants. And it would be very hard to draw the kind of people that lead GE from the rich CT suburbs of NYC to.... someplace like Cincy.

 

With the cost of housing here. The people would live like a king here with their salaries.

They removed Dallas from the running over the same Ex-Im bank issue and Dallas is an American Airlines hub with frequent international flights. I don't think their decision has anything to do with the Ex-Im bank or the airlines. Often times the real reason a company decides on location is not as obvious as they state in the paper.

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Absolutely. What OHKID[/member] said is most likely true...they're just trying to get a tax break to stay at their current campus and have no real desire to move.

Often times the real reason a company decides on location is not as obvious as they state in the paper.

 

True, but the lack of international flights at CVG has now been cited by GE, Toyota, and Chiquita.  It has also been an area of concern for Cincinnati companies with deeper roots like P&G and 5/3.  It's clearly a situation that Cincinnati needs to rectify if it wants to be a serious contender for a new HQ (or even to retain some of the current ones).

Someone said the ex-Im bank is right wing & I have to correct that. It's not.

 

The ex-I'm bank is one of those issues (like the Fed) which is a pro corporatist, pro corporate welfare authoritarian center to center-right idea. A whole lot of democrats support it and always have. Things like the bailout, TARP, the fed & the ex-I'm bank all go in the same category of pro-big government support of big business

 

The Ex-Im bank has two enemies. The far right libertarian leaning tea party type folks, and the far left populist anti-corporate greed folks. This is a perfect example of why politics should be looked at on an xy axis.

 

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So back to Cincy...

Often times the real reason a company decides on location is not as obvious as they state in the paper.

 

True, but the lack of international flights at CVG has now been cited by GE, Toyota, and Chiquita.  It has also been an area of concern for Cincinnati companies with deeper roots like P&G and 5/3.  It's clearly a situation that Cincinnati needs to rectify if it wants to be a serious contender for a new HQ (or even to retain some of the current ones).

 

 

it's as much domestic as international flights.  Much of the market for private jets comes from the need for executives to visit obscure domestic locations, i.e. Paducah, KY, Brownsville, TX, Grand Rapids, MI, etc.  A private jet is an almost invaluable business tool for companies that do business in the least-populous 25 states.  There is a middle-tier that the hub cities serve in a way that CVG used to at Comair's height in the secondary states ranking between 8~ and 24~.  The big 10 cities now have all of the international flights AND all of those hub flights to the second-tier destinations.  The second-tier cities (including various former hubs like CVG) now have very weak service to any and every locale.  All of this nonsense since about 1980 could have been avoided if the airlines wouldn't have been deregulated. 

 

 

 

Often times the real reason a company decides on location is not as obvious as they state in the paper.

 

True, but the lack of international flights at CVG has now been cited by GE, Toyota, and Chiquita.  It has also been an area of concern for Cincinnati companies with deeper roots like P&G and 5/3.  It's clearly a situation that Cincinnati needs to rectify if it wants to be a serious contender for a new HQ (or even to retain some of the current ones).

 

 

it's as much domestic as international flights.  Much of the market for private jets comes from the need for executives to visit obscure domestic locations, i.e. Paducah, KY, Brownsville, TX, Grand Rapids, MI, etc.  A private jet is an almost invaluable business tool for companies that do business in the least-populous 25 states.  There is a middle-tier that the hub cities serve in a way that CVG used to at Comair's height in the secondary states ranking between 8~ and 24~.  The big 10 cities now have all of the international flights AND all of those hub flights to the second-tier destinations.  The second-tier cities (including various former hubs like CVG) now have very weak service to any and every locale.  All of this nonsense since about 1980 could have been avoided if the airlines wouldn't have been deregulated. 

 

 

So the government should have locked in the status quo?  Even as business travel itself became rarer and rarer?

 

Brownsville and GR aren't really "obscure".  Paducah, perhaps, it's only 25,000 people.  But those other two are focal points of million-plus metro areas.

it's as much domestic as international flights.  Much of the market for private jets comes from the need for executives to visit obscure domestic locations, i.e. Paducah, KY, Brownsville, TX, Grand Rapids, MI, etc.  A private jet is an almost invaluable business tool for companies that do business in the least-populous 25 states.  There is a middle-tier that the hub cities serve in a way that CVG used to at Comair's height in the secondary states ranking between 8~ and 24~.  The big 10 cities now have all of the international flights AND all of those hub flights to the second-tier destinations.  The second-tier cities (including various former hubs like CVG) now have very weak service to any and every locale.  All of this nonsense since about 1980 could have been avoided if the airlines wouldn't have been deregulated. 

 

Agreed about the domestic flights being an issue as well.  I only specified international because that was what the article highlighted.  My company has a number of offices on the west coast, and reaching those has been a complete pain in the rear ever since Delta started cutting flights.  What used to take 5 hours (including arriving early to get through security) now takes an entire day.

"What used to take 5 hours now takes all day...

It took me 16 hours to get to LAAAAAAAAA

 

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Post my face wanted dead or alive

Take my license all that jive

I can't fly... 155!"

Often times the real reason a company decides on location is not as obvious as they state in the paper.

 

True, but the lack of international flights at CVG has now been cited by GE, Toyota, and Chiquita.  It has also been an area of concern for Cincinnati companies with deeper roots like P&G and 5/3.  It's clearly a situation that Cincinnati needs to rectify if it wants to be a serious contender for a new HQ (or even to retain some of the current ones).

 

 

it's as much domestic as international flights.  Much of the market for private jets comes from the need for executives to visit obscure domestic locations, i.e. Paducah, KY, Brownsville, TX, Grand Rapids, MI, etc.  A private jet is an almost invaluable business tool for companies that do business in the least-populous 25 states.  There is a middle-tier that the hub cities serve in a way that CVG used to at Comair's height in the secondary states ranking between 8~ and 24~.  The big 10 cities now have all of the international flights AND all of those hub flights to the second-tier destinations.  The second-tier cities (including various former hubs like CVG) now have very weak service to any and every locale.  All of this nonsense since about 1980 could have been avoided if the airlines wouldn't have been deregulated. 

 

 

So the government should have locked in the status quo?  Even as business travel itself became rarer and rarer?

 

Brownsville and GR aren't really "obscure".  Paducah, perhaps, it's only 25,000 people.  But those other two are focal points of million-plus metro areas.

 

 

It would be better if there was one morning non-stop and one early evening non-stop between each of the top 50 markets even if tickets were much more expensive and there were often empty seats because those services would actually *exist*.  The whole point of airline travel is for it to be significantly faster than driving or taking Greyhound.  The way it is now flights are much cheaper but they are much slower than they used to be.  They got flying so cheap it's almost as cheap as driving but now flying to New York City from Ohio can take as long as driving. 

 

Often times the real reason a company decides on location is not as obvious as they state in the paper.

 

True, but the lack of international flights at CVG has now been cited by GE, Toyota, and Chiquita.  It has also been an area of concern for Cincinnati companies with deeper roots like P&G and 5/3.  It's clearly a situation that Cincinnati needs to rectify if it wants to be a serious contender for a new HQ (or even to retain some of the current ones).

 

 

it's as much domestic as international flights.  Much of the market for private jets comes from the need for executives to visit obscure domestic locations, i.e. Paducah, KY, Brownsville, TX, Grand Rapids, MI, etc.  A private jet is an almost invaluable business tool for companies that do business in the least-populous 25 states.  There is a middle-tier that the hub cities serve in a way that CVG used to at Comair's height in the secondary states ranking between 8~ and 24~.  The big 10 cities now have all of the international flights AND all of those hub flights to the second-tier destinations.  The second-tier cities (including various former hubs like CVG) now have very weak service to any and every locale.  All of this nonsense since about 1980 could have been avoided if the airlines wouldn't have been deregulated. 

 

 

So the government should have locked in the status quo?  Even as business travel itself became rarer and rarer?

 

Brownsville and GR aren't really "obscure".  Paducah, perhaps, it's only 25,000 people.  But those other two are focal points of million-plus metro areas.

 

 

It would be better if there was one morning non-stop and one early evening non-stop between each of the top 50 markets even if tickets were much more expensive and there were often empty seats because those services would actually *exist*.  The whole point of airline travel is for it to be significantly faster than driving or taking Greyhound.  The way it is now flights are much cheaper but they are much slower than they used to be.  They got flying so cheap it's almost as cheap as driving but now flying to New York City from Ohio can take as long as driving. 

 

 

That's a good argument for improved passenger rail service to fill the gap. 

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GE is laying off 500 people just because if that export import bank. Big companies are becoming unamerican anymore.

GE is laying off 500 people just because if that export import bank. Big companies are becoming unamerican anymore.

 

500 out of 300,000+.  That's a drop in the bucket.

I was looking for the actual table and the list of metro areas but I could not find any.  Has anyone had any luck looking for this?

^There's a link to an Excel file there on the right sidebar.

 

Virginia/DC, Central Illinois, Central California, and Upstate New York seemed to suffer the worst

 

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Lake Charles, LA; San Angelo TX; and Midland, TX all had double digit growth.

 

Greeley, CO just missed it with 9.9% and, surprisingly, Wheeling, WV had 9.5% growth.

^Thanks Ryan.

 

Central Illinois and Iowa are getting hit even harder now.  I saw news today of Caterpillar laying off possibly 10,000 workers over the next 3 years (HQ in Peoria, IL).  That many cuts will also affect many people in the supply chain as well in the Central Illinois area (component makers, part makers, nuts and bolts suppliers and manufacturers, etc.). 

 

Same deal in Iowa.  Tractor and farm equipment manufacturers (biggest is John Deere but many more smaller companies) are laying off thousands of workers and this will affect like Central Illinois the rest of the supply chain.  You can see this in the map starting from SW Indiana stretching NW through Illinois to Iowa to Southern Minnesota and SW Wisconsin.  In fact, besides the Twin Cities, St. Louis and New Orleans, the whole Mississippi River Valley is not doing well at all.

 

The main reason for this is commodity prices in corn and soybean and the land values in rich farm ground continue to drop with no let up.  There is a huge oversupply of commodities in the market, and the farmers don't have the cash like they did before to buy new equipment and write it off for tax purposes.  This has actually been going on for about 4 years now but the economy is just now really starting to feel the brunt.

 

The low commodity prices does have an upside though for states like Texas, who are now able to purchase feed for cattle at a much lower price and thus increase their cash load and hire more workers and expand their businesses.  It is a big chain this economy is.

Down at the farm, the number of acres you have to farm to justify keeping your own equipment around keeps rising. I'd say it's over 1500 acres with corn and soybeans. Anything less and your are better off share cropping or renting out the land.

^Thanks Ryan.

 

Central Illinois and Iowa are getting hit even harder now.  I saw news today of Caterpillar laying off possibly 10,000 workers over the next 3 years (HQ in Peoria, IL).  That many cuts will also affect many people in the supply chain as well in the Central Illinois area (component makers, part makers, nuts and bolts suppliers and manufacturers, etc.). 

 

Same deal in Iowa.  Tractor and farm equipment manufacturers (biggest is John Deere but many more smaller companies) are laying off thousands of workers and this will affect like Central Illinois the rest of the supply chain.  You can see this in the map starting from SW Indiana stretching NW through Illinois to Iowa to Southern Minnesota and SW Wisconsin.  In fact, besides the Twin Cities, St. Louis and New Orleans, the whole Mississippi River Valley is not doing well at all.

 

The main reason for this is commodity prices in corn and soybean and the land values in rich farm ground continue to drop with no let up.  There is a huge oversupply of commodities in the market, and the farmers don't have the cash like they did before to buy new equipment and write it off for tax purposes.  This has actually been going on for about 4 years now but the economy is just now really starting to feel the brunt.

 

The low commodity prices does have an upside though for states like Texas, who are now able to purchase feed for cattle at a much lower price and thus increase their cash load and hire more workers and expand their businesses.  It is a big chain this economy is.

 

Everything I've seen about the Caterpillar news places the layoffs they just announced as related to commodities, but not farm commodities.  Specifically, they were referencing the slowdown in mining and oil/gas as the reason for their projections. 

Right, Cat doesn't make very much farm-specific equipment.

^Thanks Ryan.

 

Central Illinois and Iowa are getting hit even harder now.  I saw news today of Caterpillar laying off possibly 10,000 workers over the next 3 years (HQ in Peoria, IL).  That many cuts will also affect many people in the supply chain as well in the Central Illinois area (component makers, part makers, nuts and bolts suppliers and manufacturers, etc.). 

 

Same deal in Iowa.  Tractor and farm equipment manufacturers (biggest is John Deere but many more smaller companies) are laying off thousands of workers and this will affect like Central Illinois the rest of the supply chain.  You can see this in the map starting from SW Indiana stretching NW through Illinois to Iowa to Southern Minnesota and SW Wisconsin.  In fact, besides the Twin Cities, St. Louis and New Orleans, the whole Mississippi River Valley is not doing well at all.

 

The main reason for this is commodity prices in corn and soybean and the land values in rich farm ground continue to drop with no let up.  There is a huge oversupply of commodities in the market, and the farmers don't have the cash like they did before to buy new equipment and write it off for tax purposes.  This has actually been going on for about 4 years now but the economy is just now really starting to feel the brunt.

 

The low commodity prices does have an upside though for states like Texas, who are now able to purchase feed for cattle at a much lower price and thus increase their cash load and hire more workers and expand their businesses.  It is a big chain this economy is.

 

Everything I've seen about the Caterpillar news places the layoffs they just announced as related to commodities, but not farm commodities.  Specifically, they were referencing the slowdown in mining and oil/gas as the reason for their projections.

 

Apologies, I agree with that.  I went off in a tangent about commodities, etc. in reference to John Deere and other midwestern states in regards to farming.  I should have stated the difference from that and Caterpillar.

Luckily, Cincinnati companies do not appear to be deeply involved in oil or fracking.  As an indicator of what's going on, the FRAK ETF has fallen from $35 in summer 2014 to under $15 right now.  It could be ten years before fracking and its related companies recover.  All of this was caused by a planned shortage and now surplus by OPEC.  It's starving Russia and other evil-doers, but also our nascent fracking industry and anyone who invested in it over the past five years. 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2015/09/28/tech-firm-eyes-greater-cincinnati-for-1-000-job.html?ana=fbk

 

"The largest global provider of integrated information technology and digital marketing solutions for the retail and automotive retail industries is eyeing Greater Cincinnati for an expansion that will bring 1,000 full-time jobs."

 

Could this be headed to The Banks?  ;-)

 

There is a Spec Tower that needs filling.

 

Lets hope.

^^that was my first thought as well.

www.cincinnatiideas.com

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2015/09/28/tech-firm-eyes-greater-cincinnati-for-1-000-job.html?ana=fbk

 

"The largest global provider of integrated information technology and digital marketing solutions for the retail and automotive retail industries is eyeing Greater Cincinnati for an expansion that will bring 1,000 full-time jobs."

 

Could this be headed to The Banks?  ;-)

 

There is a Spec Tower that needs filling.

 

Lets hope.

 

It wouldn't be a "spec tower" if CDK commits to it now. The term "Spec" refers to "speculative", which means the project is built *before* identifying a committed tenant.

 

Greater Cincinnati needed an urban Growth Boundary 20 years ago. Discuss.

Greater Cincinnati needed an urban Growth Boundary 20 years ago. Discuss.

 

Too late 20 yrs ago even.  More like 1980, or even earlier.  But then again, a comprehensive, metropolitan wide transit system would have taken care of that for us.

Greater Cincinnati needed an urban Growth Boundary 20 years ago. Discuss.

 

Too late 20 yrs ago even.  More like 1980, or even earlier.  But then again, a comprehensive, metropolitan wide transit system would have taken care of that for us.

 

Ahem...MARTA would disagree.

Greater Cincinnati needed an urban Growth Boundary 20 years ago. Discuss.

 

Yeah totally agree, the problem is no one in the area was even close to having a mindset to make that happen 20 years ago (and even today very few do.) Sprawl was viewed as progress; ie. "Look at the nice new Wendy's they built" and the city was completely written off for dead. A lot of folks in their prime career and family raising ages back then came of age when crime was a big deal in the city and it was a place to escape from.

 

If you could subtract 20 years of sprawl from the area it would help for doing things like building a light rail connection to Dayton since there would be less stuff in the way. And the resulting sprawl from such a line might have been more dense and less auto oriented in character at least.

 

Also a good move back then would have been to consolidate the Dayton and Cincinnati airports somewhere along I-75, which would have changed the land use and supporting infrastructure being built in the northern suburbs. They would have ended up even bigger and more powerful, but it would be in a way that produced more growth for the entire region due to the airport being bigger and more companies locating here.

 

But the municipalities in Greater Cincy were and are still way too fragmented to make a growth boundary happen. They can't even stop poaching companies from each other with tax deals. Some kind of truce in that arena may be helpful and feasible.

 

Not much we can do now except to fight this horrible Eastern Bypass idea which will sap the vitality out of our existing neighborhoods and suburbs. It's a zombie 1970s 1980s concept that doesn't acknowledge any lessons learned from all the years of sprawl without growth we've had, and will put us in the hook for huge infrastructure maintnance cost while doing nothing to spark overall growth.

www.cincinnatiideas.com

Greater Cincinnati needed an urban Growth Boundary 20 years ago. Discuss.

 

Am I the only one that finds "something something something, discuss" statements rather grating?  Like some overbearing father forcing his children to debate a topic over dinner. 

 

Anyway, an urban growth boundary isn't a tool to be used in isolation.  Simply slapping a growth boundary on a region just leads to sprawl bumping up against it, cries that the metro is "built out," and calls for it to be extended.  Meanwhile, all the same crap is being built inside the boundary as anywhere else, and zoning prevents the densification and redevelopment of existing neighborhoods that's necessary to absorb the demand that would normally be pushing sprawl farther out.  This has been much the case in Portland, where despite good things happening in the core of the city, most of the low-density single-family districts are quite set in their ways and unwilling to change.  You sure can't tell there's a growth boundary from the air either.  Lexington's urban services boundary might be a better way to handle things, but again there's still plenty of sprawl crap being built inside that zone. 

Greater Cincinnati needed an urban Growth Boundary 20 years ago. Discuss.

 

Am I the only one that finds "something something something, discuss" statements rather grating?  Like some overbearing father forcing his children to debate a topic over dinner. 

 

Anyway, an urban growth boundary isn't a tool to be used in isolation.  Simply slapping a growth boundary on a region just leads to sprawl bumping up against it, cries that the metro is "built out," and calls for it to be extended.  Meanwhile, all the same crap is being built inside the boundary as anywhere else, and zoning prevents the densification and redevelopment of existing neighborhoods that's necessary to absorb the demand that would normally be pushing sprawl farther out.  This has been much the case in Portland, where despite good things happening in the core of the city, most of the low-density single-family districts are quite set in their ways and unwilling to change.  You sure can't tell there's a growth boundary from the air either.  Lexington's urban services boundary might be a better way to handle things, but again there's still plenty of sprawl crap being built inside that zone. 

 

I wasn't aware of Lexington's policy.  And to answer your question, it is a bit trite but I don't have a problem with it.  Ergo, I'll be learning something new about Lexington.

Another Campaign has been set up similar to GE's Global Operation Center, where there is outcry to bring CDK to the Banks, and you have the opportunity to message CDK and tell them why they should locate downtown, and at The Banks. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/BringGEtotheBanks?fref=ts

 

 

If it's true they are still deciding on where to locate, why not give them a public opinion, "nudge". The banks has a lot reserved for a business this sized, and the street car line is literally at there doorsteps. You would have many employee benefits such as nearby restaurants/cafes/hotels/as well as the largest parking garage in North America right beneath them, so I can't exactly see why the suburbs should be an immediate choice. Especially this is a tech forward company, who are probably trying to attract millennials.

^Keep in mind that we're talking about a call center.  Rents at the Banks are probably a little high for that.  Also, it sounds like they are looking to move quickly, which makes construction of a new building problematic.  Otherwise, I totally agree.

Greater Cincinnati needed an urban Growth Boundary 20 years ago. Discuss.

 

I think one of the biggest beneficiaries of such an urban growth boundary would have been the Tri-County area. It would have encouraged denser construction there and prevented poaching from that area for the West Chester developments that have happened in the past two decades.

Greater Cincinnati needed an urban Growth Boundary 20 years ago. Discuss.

 

I think one of the biggest beneficiaries of such an urban growth boundary would have been the Tri-County area. It would have encouraged denser construction there and prevented poaching from that area for the West Chester developments that have happened in the past two decades.

 

Even an Urban Service Boundary probably would've reduced the amount of sprawl in the region. Right now, Cincinnatians are providing subsidized water to surrounding cities and townships because Water Works is not legally allowed to charge those areas higher rates than City of Cincinnati residents.

Another Campaign has been set up similar to GE's Global Operation Center, where there is outcry to bring CDK to the Banks, and you have the opportunity to message CDK and tell them why they should locate downtown, and at The Banks. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/BringGEtotheBanks?fref=ts

 

 

If it's true they are still deciding on where to locate, why not give them a public opinion, "nudge". The banks has a lot reserved for a business this sized, and the street car line is literally at there doorsteps. You would have many employee benefits such as nearby restaurants/cafes/hotels/as well as the largest parking garage in North America right beneath them, so I can't exactly see why the suburbs should be an immediate choice. Especially this is a tech forward company, who are probably trying to attract millennials.

 

As much as I'd like to see it go to the Banks, I'd rather see it go to downtown Hamilton.

 

In particular in some of the former Ohio Casualty space.

Greater Cincinnati needed an urban Growth Boundary 20 years ago. Discuss.

 

I think one of the biggest beneficiaries of such an urban growth boundary would have been the Tri-County area. It would have encouraged denser construction there and prevented poaching from that area for the West Chester developments that have happened in the past two decades.

 

Even an Urban Service Boundary probably would've reduced the amount of sprawl in the region. Right now, Cincinnatians are providing subsidized water to surrounding cities and townships because Water Works is not legally allowed to charge those areas higher rates than City of Cincinnati residents.

 

The Mill Creek/Great Miami watershed was a de facto growth boundary for the west side.  Cincinnati Waterworks has always provided water to the western third of the county, but there were no sewers until the mid-1990s.  Various developments appeared on that side of the watershed with their own sewage treatment plants as early as the 1970s but there were 20-30 at most.  Over the past 15 years they've each transitioned over to the new sewers and have been joined by many new developments. 

 

  • 4 weeks later...

EXCLUSIVE: Fast-growing Cincinnati health research firm shops for new HQ

Oct 27, 2015, 1:04pm EDT

Barrett J. Brunsman Staff reporter Cincinnati Business Courier

 

 

CTI Clinical Trial and Consulting Services could decide to relocate its Blue Ash headquarters within the next 90 days. Possibilities include building a multimillion-dollar office near either the University of Cincinnati or Northern Kentucky University.

 

The privately held firm, which helps companies develop drugs and medical devices to obtain regulatory approval, could spend $15 million to $30 million to build a new headquarters, CEO Tim Schroeder told me. That would be the price range for a building that would encompass 100,000 to 150,000 square feet.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2015/10/27/exclusive-fast-growing-cincinnati-health-research.html

^Sounds like the perfect fit for the new MLK biotech & research corridor. Uptown consortium needs something to get their plans off the ground. From the way the article jumps from location to location it sounds like that CEO is fishing hard for incentives though...

www.cincinnatiideas.com

  • 1 month later...

Manufacturer buys huge building for new Cincinnati HQ

Dec 9, 2015, 2:47pm EST Updated Dec 9, 2015, 3:24pm EST

Tom Demeropolis

Senior Staff Reporter

Cincinnati Business Courier

 

A manufacturer of shower curtains and other bathroom accessories purchased a more than 360,000-square-foot building and will move its operations to the city of Cincinnati.

 

Saturday Knight Ltd., which is currently based in Amberley Village, purchased 4330 Winton Road from J&J Lott Ohio for $3.8 million. The building has high ceilings and a great deal of parking.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2015/12/09/manufacturer-buys-huge-building-for-new-cincinnati.html

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