August 21, 201410 yr German retailer opening U.S. flagship in Cincinnati Wiesnkoenig (pronounced VEE’-sehn-koh-neg), the official supplier of lederhosen for the Munich Oktoberfest, is hoping its fashion-forward take on traditional German clothing takes off in America with the opening of its flagship U.S. store inside a Cincinnati brewery. ... Wiesnkoenig is opening inside one of the city’s biggest success stories, the Christian Moerlein Brewing Co., once the fifth-largest brewery in the nation before Prohibition hit in 1920 and it closed. http://www.ohio.com/business/german-retailer-opening-u-s-flagship-in-cincinnati-1.515410 If you do a Google News Search of "Cincinnati German Clothing" you'll see that this is making national news today. EDIT: INTERNATIONAL News. There are articles about it as far away as Perth and New Zealand.
August 21, 201410 yr German retailer opening U.S. flagship in Cincinnati Wiesnkoenig (pronounced VEE’-sehn-koh-neg), the official supplier of lederhosen for the Munich Oktoberfest, is hoping its fashion-forward take on traditional German clothing takes off in America with the opening of its flagship U.S. store inside a Cincinnati brewery. ... Wiesnkoenig is opening inside one of the city’s biggest success stories, the Christian Moerlein Brewing Co., once the fifth-largest brewery in the nation before Prohibition hit in 1920 and it closed. http://www.ohio.com/business/german-retailer-opening-u-s-flagship-in-cincinnati-1.515410 If you do a Google News Search of "Cincinnati German Clothing" you'll see that this is making national news today. EDIT: INTERNATIONAL News. There are articles about it as far away as Perth and New Zealand. Yeah, this is pretty cool stuff... What'd you guys think about this ... Regarding our ties to Germany, what'd you think about a group or program put in place to really drive this initiative? I'm thinking our German newspapers, Wiesnkoenig, Hofbräuhaus, OTR, Breweries, etc. Like strengthen our ties or create an advertising campaign centered around this? Maybe even petition for street-names to be put back into place? Maybe even a separate thread?
August 21, 201410 yr German retailer opening U.S. flagship in Cincinnati Wiesnkoenig (pronounced VEE’-sehn-koh-neg), the official supplier of lederhosen for the Munich Oktoberfest, is hoping its fashion-forward take on traditional German clothing takes off in America with the opening of its flagship U.S. store inside a Cincinnati brewery. ... Wiesnkoenig is opening inside one of the city’s biggest success stories, the Christian Moerlein Brewing Co., once the fifth-largest brewery in the nation before Prohibition hit in 1920 and it closed. http://www.ohio.com/business/german-retailer-opening-u-s-flagship-in-cincinnati-1.515410 If you do a Google News Search of "Cincinnati German Clothing" you'll see that this is making national news today. EDIT: INTERNATIONAL News. There are articles about it as far away as Perth and New Zealand. Yeah, this is pretty cool stuff... What'd you guys think about this ... Regarding our ties to Germany, what'd you think about a group or program put in place to really drive this initiative? I'm thinking our German newspapers, Wiesnkoenig, Hofbräuhaus, OTR, Breweries, etc. Like strengthen our ties or create an advertising campaign centered around this? Maybe even petition for street-names to be put back into place? Maybe even a separate thread? For the street names it would be much much easier to get the secondary designation (e.g. Joe Nuxhall Way is the 100 Block of Main; Eric Kunzel is 1200 block of elm) for the street than to change it back. And while we're adding secondary designations, lets make Henry between Elm and Race "20th"
August 21, 201410 yr I think re-renaming the streets to their original names would be worse. I like the secondary designation of the streets to show what they used to be called. It shows our true history. If we changed Republic back to Bremen, would Cincinnatians remember the hysteria of WWI that caused the street to be renamed in the first place? Perhaps. But I think it's more real this way. A couple of threads about this topic. Discussion (short) Photo Series turned discussion
August 21, 201410 yr I agree with the secondary street name designations. I'm not a big fan of erasing our history, but reminding people of our even earlier history I'm a BIG fan of. As for the rest of Cincinnatus' suggestions, I definitely think we need to ride the "Historic German Neighborhood" bandwagon. I'm elated to see that the reference was made in this article that went global. I work for a touring company in Over-the-Rhine and we're now seeing international travelers coming to town JUST because they wanted to see Over-the-Rhine. I was floored the first time I met some of them this spring because three years ago we were still struggling to get people to visit from Clifton. Tourism in Over-the-Rhine is happening NOW.
August 21, 201410 yr Does anyone have any images or sources from the original Germanic newspapers? Obviously the paper would still be printed in English, but how cool would it be if we changed the name of the paper to: Volksfreund or The Cincinnati Volksblatt ... thoughts?
August 21, 201410 yr Does anyone have any images or sources from the original Germanic newspapers? Obviously the paper would still be printed in English, but how cool would it be if we changed the name of the paper to: Volksfreund or The Cincinnati Volksblatt ... thoughts? Why not print some in German? Obviously not all or even close to a majority, but printing some in German would be pretty cool. I'm sure the public library has a collection of old German newspapers
August 21, 201410 yr Does anyone have any images or sources from the original Germanic newspapers? Obviously the paper would still be printed in English, but how cool would it be if we changed the name of the paper to: Volksfreund or The Cincinnati Volksblatt ... thoughts? Why not print some in German? Obviously not all or even close to a majority, but printing some in German would be pretty cool. I'm sure the public library has a collection of old German newspapers I like that idea as well. I can say for a fact (as a father of a 4 going on 5 year old), learning a second language in pre-1st, 2nd, 3rd grade - is becoming more and more important. One day Isaac came home singing a random song in Spanish. If I could choose, it'd be German. This would benefit him later on in life when looking at career options.
August 21, 201410 yr The German papers are on microfilm right next to the current newspapers. I took German in high school so I can sort of read them.
August 25, 201410 yr Totally agree about the tourism value of highlighting the original German names as secondary street names. Does anybody have a list of the streets that were renamed in OTR?
August 25, 201410 yr How is OTR in 2014 a German neighborhood? Other than the name of the neighborhood, and Old St. Mary's church offering one German service a week, what about OTR is inherently German? There isn't a single German restaurant or bar, no German cultural center or anything....hell, the buildings are even Italianate, not especially Germanic in appearance. OTR is a great American neighborhood with a cultural and racial history that is very much American, not German.
August 25, 201410 yr How is OTR in 2014 a German neighborhood? Other than the name of the neighborhood, and Old St. Mary's church offering one German service a week, what about OTR is inherently German? There isn't a single German restaurant or bar, no German cultural center or anything....hell, the buildings are even Italianate, not especially Germanic in appearance. OTR is a great American neighborhood with a cultural and racial history that is very much American, not German. It might not be a German center anymore, but it's a German neighborhood through and through. Built by Germans for Germans. Named after the Rhine River. Up until WWII had German street names. German beer was prevalent until prohibition. The population was almost entirely Germans up until a lot of the cultural shifts started happening in the 20th Century. We're talking about playing up the German history of the neighborhood and as such the fact that it's no longer a German center isn't important.
August 25, 201410 yr How is OTR in 2014 a German neighborhood? Other than the name of the neighborhood, and Old St. Mary's church offering one German service a week, what about OTR is inherently German? There isn't a single German restaurant or bar, no German cultural center or anything....hell, the buildings are even Italianate, not especially Germanic in appearance. OTR is a great American neighborhood with a cultural and racial history that is very much American, not German. It was a very German neighborhood and the discussion we're having is because it has become "Americanized."
August 25, 201410 yr ^ Actually, it was during WWI that patriotic sentiment became so strong that citizens demanded the eradication of all things German, including OTR's street names.
August 25, 201410 yr How is OTR in 2014 a German neighborhood? Other than the name of the neighborhood, and Old St. Mary's church offering one German service a week, what about OTR is inherently German? There isn't a single German restaurant or bar, no German cultural center or anything....hell, the buildings are even Italianate, not especially Germanic in appearance. OTR is a great American neighborhood with a cultural and racial history that is very much American, not German. It might not be a German center anymore, but it's a German neighborhood through and through. Built by Germans for Germans. Named after the Rhine River. Up until WWII had German street names. German beer was prevalent until prohibition. The population was almost entirely Germans up until a lot of the cultural shifts started happening in the 20th Century. We're talking about playing up the German history of the neighborhood and as such the fact that it's no longer a German center isn't important. Right, there's definitely a German heritage and history reflected in the neighborhood. I was commenting more on claiming it as a German neighborhood for tourist purposes ala a Little Italy or Chinatown would be a bit disingenuous, considering it is no longer a German neighborhood, and hasn't been for about a hundred years.
September 4, 201410 yr Little Italy in New York is reduced to about 2 blocks. Little Italy in Cleveland has a few Italians. OTR is German by nature. That's its history!
September 5, 201410 yr Little Italy in New York is reduced to about 2 blocks. Little Italy in Cleveland has a few Italians. OTR is German by nature. That's its history! Chinatown has taken over most of Little Italy in Manhattan. Cleveland's Little Italy is full of Italians... what are you talking about? Yes, there are a lot of Case students living in the area, but it is still one of the best Little Italy neighborhoods in the country. It is not uncommon to get off the rapid or be walking down Mayfield or side streets and hear Italian being spoken, the numerous Italian flags in the yards or hanging from the porches. It's not just Italian restaurants, it's an ethnic neighborhood.
September 5, 201410 yr Little Italy in New York is reduced to about 2 blocks. Little Italy in Cleveland has a few Italians. OTR is German by nature. That's its history! Chinatown has taken over most of Little Italy in Manhattan. Cleveland's Little Italy is full of Italians... what are you talking about? Yes, there are a lot of Case students living in the area, but it is still one of the best Little Italy neighborhoods in the country. It is not uncommon to get off the rapid or be walking down Mayfield or side streets and hear Italian being spoken, the numerous Italian flags in the yards or hanging from the porches. It's not just Italian restaurants, it's an ethnic neighborhood. Are you refuting the point or just setting the record straight on Cleveland?
September 5, 201410 yr It's kinda sad what's happening in Manhattan. I say we raise the German Flags and paint the light poles black, red and gold.
September 5, 201410 yr Little Italy in New York is reduced to about 2 blocks. Little Italy in Cleveland has a few Italians. OTR is German by nature. That's its history! Chinatown has taken over most of Little Italy in Manhattan. Cleveland's Little Italy is full of Italians... what are you talking about? Yes, there are a lot of Case students living in the area, but it is still one of the best Little Italy neighborhoods in the country. It is not uncommon to get off the rapid or be walking down Mayfield or side streets and hear Italian being spoken, the numerous Italian flags in the yards or hanging from the porches. It's not just Italian restaurants, it's an ethnic neighborhood. Are you refuting the point or just setting the record straight on Cleveland? There wasn't much to agree or disagree with. I agree, Little Italy in Lower Manhattan has lost most of its footprint to Chinatown. It is not uncommon to see an Asian restaurant next to an Italian restaurant. It seems like today, Manhattan's Little Italy is even smaller than two blocks. I have been to OTR a few times, but do not know much about its German roots. Knowing it is Cincinnati I am sure there are plenty of German restaurants within the neighborhood. This is an honest question, though. Is OTR a strong ethnic German neighborhood? Little Italy in Cleveland has strong Italian roots with many Italian families living on side streets off of the main thoroughfare. It is not uncommon to be walking down Murray Hill, Coltman, or Fairview and see Italian flags or hear Italian being spoken either by people on their front porches or walking by on the sidewalk. Wait in line at Presti's or Murray Hill Market and you will hear Italian. It is also very toursity as well. I was in line the other day at Corbo's and was behind a group of British tourists, but it is still very much an ethnic neighborhood. I am basically just setting the record straight on Little Italy in Cleveland. You will see a lot of Case students in the area (many live in the neighborhood) right alongside people who have lived there for decades.
September 5, 201410 yr The thing about German heritage is that it was attacked for half a century or more from 1917 up beyond the 1940s. It's largely been lost in Cincinnati and much of the country, whereas people have been allowed to be proud of, honor, and preserve other ethnic heritages (e.g. Italian). Over-the-Rhine is a good symbol of that, even though other things were also at work (i.e. slowing of immigration and white flight). But there's nothing inauthentic with hyping up its German roots, and in fact it's a good opportunity to tell the story of the eraser that was taken to the German-American chalkboard. One way to do that would be to (re)introduce honorary street names for the streets whose names were changed.
September 5, 201410 yr ^^this is an exaggeration to say that Little Italy in Manhattan is "even smaller than two blocks." Although the last census showed there are no longer any Italians born in Italy living there, and the population of Italian-Americans has shrunk to a very small number, the touristy Little Italy of restaurants and stores runs for several blocks along Mulberry street and over to Grand St. and is still the home to at least two predominantly Italian churches (maybe more). As a matter of fact the Feast of San Gennaro, running for decades, is about to start any day now, which brings in thousands of people of Italian descent and others. Church of the Most Precious Blood on Mulberry St http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
September 5, 201410 yr I went to one of the few areas in the country that's heavily German and wears its German-ness on its sleeves: Green County Wisconsin (where New Glarus Brewery is located), and the only reason why it does is due to it practically going out of its way to emphasize that its Swiss German and not German German (as in WWI beware the Huns German). While there I was blown away, some of it was chintzy but tourism needs a little bit of that, a trumped up unreality to make it work. I kept thinking about how Cincinnati could do the same but on a much much larger scale, OTR should be fertile ground for that to the point where I think dual street names should be good as well as hip updated versions of German concepts in its bars/restaurants. Lincoln Square in Chicago is another great example, and I think its German-ness is largely due to the fact that Germans immigrated there after WWII and it was a German neighborhood well into the 1970s. No Germans really exist there but there are a lot of cultural institutions of the sort that should be prominent in Cincinnati given its heritiage like the Dank Haus as well as a few really great German bars and the Chicago Brauhaus. Still - the neighborhood goes out of its way to shout to people who live in Chicago that this is the European/German themed neighborhood. Nonetheless I think I big theme here is Cincinnati should own its heritage and wear it as a proud badge of honor. It frankly doesn't or it does in ways that aren't approachable or accessible to outsiders. This is a big change that has to happen IMO for Cincy to really take advantage of the assets it has and develop a sense of pride in said assets that it desperately needs in order to keep the city from devolving into a hillier Indianapolis. Btw, I was overjoyed when I found out that the Germania building after 100 years removed the stones that were covering its original German inscription that's the sort of thing I'd love to see more of.
September 5, 201410 yr Why? This is an important conversation that the city should have. Move to a separate topic since I know the on topic police get annoyed when a conversation gets even slightly off topic :roll:
September 5, 201410 yr Nonetheless I think I big theme here is Cincinnati should own its heritage and wear it as a proud badge of honor. It frankly doesn't or it does in ways that aren't approachable or accessible to outsiders. This is a big change that has to happen IMO for Cincy to really take advantage of the assets it has and develop a sense of pride in said assets that it desperately needs in order to keep the city from devolving into a hillier Indianapolis. Working on it: www.brewingheritagetrail.com Heritage tourism has the potential to be a huge economic driver for the neighborhood and the city.
September 5, 201410 yr This photograph shows a German life insurance company in Cincinnati hiding the figured of Germania, its namesake, until it can be changed to a figure of Columbia, as result of World War I. The photograph was taken ca. 1917. Fountain Square 1917 Dr. Ernst Kunwald, former conductor of the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra, enters the Federal Building in Cincinnati in 1917 as a prisoner of war.
September 12, 201410 yr Ohio on map for banking giant BB&T following Bank of Kentucky acquisition Banking behemoth BB&T Corp. is dipping a toe into Ohio and likely won’t stop there. The Winston Salem, N.C.-based company agreed to acquire Bank of Kentucky Financial Corp. in a big $363 million deal, expanding its mostly southeastern U.S. footprint into Greater Cincinnati for the first time. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2014/09/11/ohio-on-map-for-banking-giant-bb-t-following-bank.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 14, 201510 yr The final nail in the Chiquita coffin, it says they will fulfill their obligation to Charlotte, we will see! Chiquita closing North Carolina headquarters after buyout The Associated Press Posted: Wednesday, Jan. 14, 2015 CHARLOTTE, N.C. Chiquita Brands International will close its corporate headquarters in North Carolina after its buyout, the banana producer said Wednesday. Chiquita's Charlotte operations where about 300 employees work will shut down over the next year to eighteen months, interim Chief Executive Officer Brian Kocher said. His statement to employees didn't describe where the headquarters would be relocated. Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2015/01/14/5447032/chiquita-plans-hq-move-from-charlotte.html#storylink=cpy
January 14, 201510 yr Regarding chiquita, much as you shouldn't try to catch a falling knife when buying stocks, cities shouldn't try to attract floundering companies with tax incentives. The fact that a company is willing to completely tear up roots and move its HQ for tax incentives may be a sign the company isn't doing so well in the first place. Kind of like when Kasich & JobsOhio were flirting with Sears to the tune of $400 million in incentives. Sears may not be long for this world and we really dodged a bullet. A completely ridicuolous amount when you think about it! Laissez-faire my rear end! www.cincinnatiideas.com
February 27, 201510 yr Cincinnati Leads Ohio Cities in Jobs Growth "Greater Cincinnati added 21,700 jobs during 2014, according to the data. That represented 2.1 percent growth for the 15-county local region. The Cleveland area added 12,400 jobs, a 1.2 percent increase. Columbus, meanwhile, grew by just 0.8 percent while adding 8,300 jobs. Cincinnati's gains vaulted it to 1,055,000 jobs in the metro area. Cleveland had 1,044,000 jobs at year end, while Columbus employed 1,001,000." http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/print-edition/2015/02/27/cincinnati-leads-ohio-cities-in-jobs-growth.html
May 21, 201510 yr CVS buys Omnicare: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-21/cvs-to-buy-omnicare-in-12-7-billion-deal-for-pharmacy-expansion-i9y39jub I am curious what this would mean for Cincinnati. I am not too familiar with these buyouts. Does this mean Cincinnati loses a fortune 500 company? Will jobs be lost? Maybe these are questions that can't be answered now, but I hope this doesn't result in a negative for downtown or the city.
May 21, 201510 yr Eh, I don't know about that. I doubt it will have much of an impact on their operations in Cincinnati. Why move / relocate so many workers to a higher tax state? Maybe the higher ups will move but I doubt the bulk of the employee base in Cincinnati does. Actually, I would be very surprised if they did. What might be even more plausible is CVS moving some higher up executives to Cincinnati to get the culture of CVS at former Omnicare. I guess we will see how it plays out.
May 24, 201510 yr Is generally agree with this assessment. We'll lose q dozen or so execs, but most will stay
May 25, 201510 yr Why must Omnicare move to CVS? Why can't CVS move their HQ to Cincinnati to be closer to Omnicare?
May 25, 201510 yr Because that's not how its done. They may stay separate for a while, but if anyone is moving, its the one who was purchased.
May 26, 201510 yr Because that's not how its done. They may stay separate for a while, but if anyone is moving, its the one who was purchased. While the corp HQ may be gone it may be that the Divisional HQ moves to Cinti. Omnicare was much larger than CVS in this particular area so it may be that there are more high paying jobs that come to town, even though the CEO and senior VP's will be in the Northeast, it could be more jobs in the Cincinnati area. Look at US Bank as an example when they merged with Firstar and the consumer banking business remained based here.. If the talent pool is greater here, you will not want to move those jobs outside of the area. This would be different if they were just trying to get market share (aka time warner/charter/Comcast or any airline merger) where there is a zero sum gain. In this case, things could be decent for Cincinnati (as much as it sucks to lose a fortune 500 HQ)
July 27, 20159 yr Any bets on where they may decide to locate? My guess is they are likely bound for a suburban office park location however Phase 1b of the Banks is also a possibility. Financial firm to bring 1,500 jobs to Greater Cincinnati Erin Caproni Digital Producer Cincinnati Business Courier Barclays Services LLC is planning to bring 1,500 jobs to Greater Cincinnati. The fast-growing issuer of Visa and MasterCard credit cards was approved for Ohio tax credits on Monday morning. According to information from the state, the company plans to open a call center in Southwest Ohio, which will involve $9.3 million in investment. A site for the new facility hasn’t been selected, according to the Ohio Tax Credit Authority, and a spokesperson for the company declined to comment on its plans. “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
July 27, 20159 yr I don't think phase 1b is even being considered for this. It's a call center and they have a budget set already, $9.3 million. $9.3 million can't get you 1/4 of the office building at phase 1b. Cincinnati doesn't have a ton of ideal space for something like this that is ready to go right away. Call centers are often wide open flat spaces. It will come down to sites and how quickly they want to build.
July 27, 20159 yr Bowdeya Tweh: "Real estate folks I've reached are convinced Barclays' 1,500-person call center is going to Hamilton."
July 27, 20159 yr While I would greatly prefer Cincinnati, I'd rather have it be in Hamilton than in Deerfield or Liberty Township. Hamilton is a small older City that had decades of decline, but is now seeing a small revitalization of its urban core.
July 28, 20159 yr Didn't Hamilton just land a different call center recently? I think that development is renovating a downtown building to accommodate the move. P&G also is opening a pretty large facility at an old factory site in Hamilton. They are really on a roll! I too would rather see this facility locate in Cincinnati, but it is nice to see Hamilton come back. I think there could be sites in Cincinnati that would support the development of this type of building. How about up in the Bond Hill / Roselawn area? A call center is just the type of employer that could provide jobs to residents of those neighborhoods.
August 31, 20159 yr This is good news right? http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2015/08/31/nike-supplier-to-open-1st-u-s-manufacturing.html
August 31, 20159 yr This is good news right? http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2015/08/31/nike-supplier-to-open-1st-u-s-manufacturing.html "Legend Athletic Wear LLC is the North American subsidiary of Legend Sportswear Pty Ltd., an Australian specialty textile company based out of Shanghai, China." That's not confusing at all, LOL!
August 31, 20159 yr I wonder where this company will locate? I hope it's somewhere in the city- maybe in the Bond Hill/Paddock Road area? The only thing that concerns me is the average salary is $25,000? I hope there wasn't too much incentive given for such low paying jobs. It's pretty hard to support yourself on 25k/yr, let alone yourself + dependents. It's great to get more jobs in the region, but if the jobs don't pay enough to lift people out of poverty, how much benefit do they really add?
September 12, 20159 yr Author Man talk about dropping the ball. http://www.wcpo.com/money/local-business-news/ge-moving-to-cincy-not-after-political-squabble-over-export-import-bank-wall-street-journal-says
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