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I hope they release a short list of finalists before making a final announcement. Even being in the top 5 would help the possibility of future relocations. Cincinnati has a lot going for it, but it needs to increase its visibility and improve the way it is perceived outside the region.

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They're probably going to announce 5-10 finalists in order to draw the thing out for even more free publicity. 

 

Fact is that if it lands in a city the size of Cincinnati or smaller it will cause total real estate pandemonium.  Outside investors will swoop in and start dropping crazy money on lousy properties all over town.  A city the size of Houston or Atlanta could absorb this without it causing such a stir. 

 

 

They're probably going to announce 5-10 finalists in order to draw the thing out for even more free publicity. 

 

Not just free publicity but more incentives. Make the cities drool as it dangles in front of their face, and extract more goodies. Somewhat similar to what the MLS has been doing to Sacramento and Cincinnati, on a much grander scale.

 

Edit: I think you're right about the real estate market going haywire. I think this would be a "be careful what you wish for" scenario. Slow growth and homegrown business expansion would be more ideal. Amazon could bring legitimate gentrification, on a scale the Midwest has never seen.

A source whose son-in-law is in senior management at Amazon told me tonight that said son-in-law told him that Cincinnati is "at the top" of Amazon's list for HQ2.  I interpret that as in the final 5 or thereabouts under serious contention.

 

I live in near DC and heard the same thing about the Amazon Virginia bid. Some Amazon senior manager liked the Virginia site because of it's access to Dulles and Metro. I wouldn't put too much stock into any of it. I think every city has the same rumors floating around.

I wonder how much stock Amazon is putting into helping "transform" a city?  If they are putting a big stock into that, I can see Cincinnati being near the top of the list.

 

Also, if they are interested in helping out two states at once, Kentucky and Ohio, that would be another thing too.  I mean, just think of all the area in the Cincinnati basin and the Covington/Newport basin that needs to be redeveloped, it could be something that Amazon is putting a lot of thought into...

I wonder how much stock Amazon is putting into helping "transform" a city?  If they are putting a big stock into that, I can see Cincinnati being near the top of the list.

 

Also, if they are interested in helping out two states at once, Kentucky and Ohio, that would be another thing too.  I mean, just think of all the area in the Cincinnati basin and the Covington/Newport basin that needs to be redeveloped, it could be something that Amazon is putting a lot of thought into...

 

Amazon isn’t concerned about “helping” or “transforming” anyone or anything. They want what’s best for them and them alone.

I wonder how much stock Amazon is putting into helping "transform" a city?  If they are putting a big stock into that, I can see Cincinnati being near the top of the list.

 

Also, if they are interested in helping out two states at once, Kentucky and Ohio, that would be another thing too.  I mean, just think of all the area in the Cincinnati basin and the Covington/Newport basin that needs to be redeveloped, it could be something that Amazon is putting a lot of thought into...

 

Amazon isn’t concerned about “helping” or “transforming” anyone or anything. They want what’s best for them and them alone.

 

Yes, but the corollary to what IAGuy39[/member] said is the ability to be a big fish in a small pond, which they totally might be interested in.

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You could say the same thing about 3CDC. The reason they wanted to "help" and "transform" Downtown Cincinnati is because it would, in turn, help the Fortune 500 companies attract and retain employees that want an urban lifestyle. And yet we all benefit from the investments 3CDC has made. The same could be true for Amazon.

In terms of absorption I think Chicago could handle that, and we have the transit/culture that they are comfortable with.

 

Downside is corruption / bankruptcy of the state of IL.

 

Cincinnati is probably in the top tier, but I'm guessing it will either go to Pittsburgh or Chicago as both have more of what Amazon wants and both would be boons to that company's focus on maximizing PR gimmicks.  Face it Pittsburgh is better at selling itself on a national scale too.

 

If Cincinnati gets it oh boy are the blue bloods in for a culture shock - it will totally be a good thing for the city.

I wonder how much stock Amazon is putting into helping "transform" a city?  If they are putting a big stock into that, I can see Cincinnati being near the top of the list.

 

Also, if they are interested in helping out two states at once, Kentucky and Ohio, that would be another thing too.  I mean, just think of all the area in the Cincinnati basin and the Covington/Newport basin that needs to be redeveloped, it could be something that Amazon is putting a lot of thought into...

 

Amazon isn’t concerned about “helping” or “transforming” anyone or anything. They want what’s best for them and them alone.

 

Bezos along with the rest of Silicon valley is scared to death of Trumpism and realizes that part of that is due to concentration of money/power on the coasts.  They are only helping because its good business for their line of work to keep the country from turning into an anti immigrant Banana republic.  Also Amazon loves PR stunts to boost sales (remember the drone thing a few years back...)

I love dreaming of Amazon coming to Cincinnati and the transformation we would see.

 

I think you would see 10,000 more units in the basin alone (downtown, Newport and Covington), with the higher up salaries filling up the open lots in OTR quickly with single family.  That would then move and put a lot of pressure on places like Walnut Hills and the West End. 

 

You would think too then there would be an urgency to finish up the streetcar into Covington and Newport.  Also just figuring a bunch of re-investment in Walnut Hills and that center of McMillan and Gilbert.

 

The big issue obviously would that then there would be some actual gentrification

I think more importantly it would be an injection of transplants the city really needs.  Transplants tend to have a deeper appreciation for the assets Cincinnati has mainly its built environment and are less worried about petty provincial BS like the high school question or east/west divides etc - it would overwhelm the prevailing culture.  I'm curious what the backlash against that would look like...

 

Also what happens when these transplants start demanding things that are normal other places like bike lanes?

What Cranley, etc., don't get is that back in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, only a smattering of urban neighborhoods outside of the biggest 5 cities were attractive to transplants.  Now all of the Midwestern cities have good in-town historic neighborhoods.  So Cincinnati isn't so special in that respect.  The downtown and Over-the-Rhine need to be WAY better than they are now, and the way that happens is with way more people living there. 

 

Seattle just announced $100 million toward affordable housing for middle-income people.  They're renovating 2 buildings and building 9 new ones near their downtown.  Hardly any parking for those buildings.  Instead of blowing money on the Duck Creek Connector and other toys for Cranley donors, that same money put toward building several thousand affordable units near downtown, i.e. Central Parkway, Central Ave., Eggleston. 

Yeah we think about GE and how good that was, but we really need about 5 of those wins to make a big noticable difference in downtown...

 

There has to come a point where leadership figurs out that we have to make attractive policies to really recruit new companies here.  I still don't understand how we can't go to Silicon Valley and New York City and put up adverts saying "Hey, come at least check us out"

 

Maybe they do, but I kind of doubt it...

What Cranley, etc., don't get is that back in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, only a smattering of urban neighborhoods outside of the biggest 5 cities were attractive to transplants.  Now all of the Midwestern cities have good in-town historic neighborhoods.  So Cincinnati isn't so special in that respect.  The downtown and Over-the-Rhine need to be WAY better than they are now, and the way that happens is with way more people living there. 

 

Seattle just announced $100 million toward affordable housing for middle-income people.  They're renovating 2 buildings and building 9 new ones near their downtown.  Hardly any parking for those buildings.  Instead of blowing money on the Duck Creek Connector and other toys for Cranley donors, that same money put toward building several thousand affordable units near downtown, i.e. Central Parkway, Central Ave., Eggleston. 

 

I think what does make Cincinnati special right now is the quality of its underutilized neighborhood bones is higher than most urban cities outside of the coasts.  Very few cities have neighborhoods of the potential caliber of OTR available for redevelopment in the backyard of their downtown.  Ditto for Covington and Newport.  Think about Columbus for instance - short north and German Village are a fraction of what's available in these core areas.  I'll agree that Cranley et. al doesn't understand this stuff but out of towers will and the amount of money at stake here will allow them to bypass their provincial bs.

 

The level of international development monies that a 2nd Amazon HQ would attract would force all the core urban neighborhoods to accelerate their development and improve quality of life.  Downside is locals after the initial happiness of the announcement aren't going to like how their precious culture of mediocrity is being ruined.

 

Of course the sorry state of these neighborhoods does hurt attracting this HQ...  Though maybe from a PR perspective its a good thing, makes Amazon look like a "Rust Belt Hero"

Yeah we think about GE and how good that was, but we really need about 5 of those wins to make a big noticable difference in downtown...

 

There has to come a point where leadership figurs out that we have to make attractive policies to really recruit new companies here.  I still don't understand how we can't go to Silicon Valley and New York City and put up adverts saying "Hey, come at least check us out"

 

Maybe they do, but I kind of doubt it...

 

Cincinnati can't even advertise on the Chicago L as a good weekend destination when just about every other Midwestern city does it - even Kalamazoo Michigan.  St Louis actually had one of the coolest campaigns basically appealing to Chicago's urban snobbery and saying hey we are a bit cooler than most Midwest day/weekend-trips.  Cincinnati should do the same but they don't :/  (or take a page from the Kalamazoo adverts and pump up the local microwbrewry scene which IMO is excellent - I've even brought beer with me back from Cincy and distributed it to parties here and they all go over well).

 

 

I know Mallory made a point to send a delegation of Cincinnatians to NYC every year he was in office.  The last one I remember hearing about was the first year Cranley became mayor, I have a feeling he killed it, can anyone confirm?

Another thing that landing HQ2 would do is to give Cincy a safety net. Amazon is targeting companies like Macy’s and Kroger. If one of those disappears, shrinks, or is acquired, or if something happens to P&G with the addition of Nelson Peltz to the board, having HQ2 here would make the loss less impactful.

 

Totally agree about OTR, Newport, and Covington, among other underutilized neighborhoods. Loads of potential there for redevelopment and a relatively fast transformation if there was a sudden influx of people.

I know Mallory made a point to send a delegation of Cincinnatians to NYC every year he was in office.  The last one I remember hearing about was the first year Cranley became mayor' date=' I have a feeling he killed it, can anyone confirm?[/quote']

 

What was the mission of the delegation--to boost tourism or relocation? (or both)?

I know Mallory made a point to send a delegation of Cincinnatians to NYC every year he was in office.  The last one I remember hearing about was the first year Cranley became mayor' date=' I have a feeling he killed it, can anyone confirm?[/quote']

 

What was the mission of the delegation--to boost tourism or relocation? (or both)?

 

Both, also to promote economic development.  Their is also great value in making your place visable too particularly if you aren't a coastal city.  Almost everyone knows what Pittsburgh is, but go onto a national level city discussion group and people will say, I don't know much about Cincinnati... or I've never been there, that's a problem.  :/

 

Also as a safety net, yes Amazon will be, frankly given Cincinnati's current leadership and trend of making bad decisions if it looses P&G it will turn into a place like Dayton just with prettier buildings.

I know Mallory made a point to send a delegation of Cincinnatians to NYC every year he was in office.  The last one I remember hearing about was the first year Cranley became mayor' date=' I have a feeling he killed it, can anyone confirm?[/quote']

 

What was the mission of the delegation--to boost tourism or relocation? (or both)?

 

Both, also to promote economic development.  Their is also great value in making your place visable too particularly if you aren't a coastal city.  Almost everyone knows what Pittsburgh is, but go onto a national level city discussion group and people will say, I don't know much about Cincinnati... or I've never been there, that's a problem.  :/

 

Also as a safety net, yes Amazon will be, frankly given Cincinnati's current leadership and trend of making bad decisions if it looses P&G it will turn into a place like Dayton just with prettier buildings.

Oh for goodness sake. I don't know what I find more distasteful: the overzealous optimism that an HQ2 is something we should be counting on, or the typical cincinnati "the sky is falling... again" refrain.

 

 

 

 

I take a bit of a negative attitude right now, but I also feel that yes it is fixable, just work harder to throw out the POS who got reelected and his ilk (and IMO shouldn't have been reelected if it wasn't for a darn good campaign to smear Yvette over the Childrens Hospital thing).

 

I literally want to crack the Cincinnati mentality in two, and it takes a combination of boosterism and criticism.  I do both btw, took a few friends to Cincy that moved to Columbus and showed them what you guys have that makes your city special and they were impressed (initially skeptical btw as no one talks about Cincinnati on a national scale).  I've also given travel advice to another friend who should be visiting next week - in the hopes that she'll see great stuff the city does nothing to promote.

 

You do have to wonder though why more people don't know about that and what can be done to change that hence my cynicism and skepticism.  Imagine if a place like Boston just wasn't known to anyone in the country, wouldn't that be a bit odd to you?  That's kind of what I think about Cincinnati.

I've actually met quite a few people here in NYC who have all heard, "it's kind of like Portland, right?" Which has its pros and cons, but for the most part that is intended as a positive question regardless of its level of truth.

 

Hell, one of my clients went, "we want to finish this as quickly as possible. Kids are leaving and moving to exciting new places like Cincinnati" to which I chuckled and told him that's where I came from.

 

I think people ARE starting to hear about Cincinnati, but the city isn't doing anything to capitalize on this word of mouth. Instead it's just sitting there hoping people will make their way there. And that's not enough in today's world. Most states have one major city and the next largest is significantly smaller (usually around half the size) whereas Ohio is the only state with its three largest metropolitan areas all basically identical in size. There's a lot of local and national competition for the young, hip, "cool" crowd which is what's driving investment in much of the country.

I do find it funny that so many movies and TV shows use "Cincinnati" a generic stand-in city. I think it's because Cincinnati is a city that most Americans have heard of but with which they have no negative or positive connotations. The most recent example I can think of is in the movie The Big Sick, when Ray Romano's character talks about how he once cheated on his wife while he was attending a conference in Cincinnati.

Columbus would so fit that role way better... and that's representative of the problem Cincinnati has in this regard.  It should at least be as well known for having an identity as St Louis.

Why are Columbus, and Dayton, and St. Louis, and wherever else in this topic about Cincinnati business news?  Stick with the topic, thanks.

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Another thing that landing HQ2 would do is to give Cincy a safety net. Amazon is targeting companies like Macy’s and Kroger. If one of those disappears, shrinks, or is acquired, or if something happens to P&G with the addition of Nelson Peltz to the board, having HQ2 here would make the loss less impactful.

Like several others here, I seriously doubt that Cincinnati will ever land HQ2 - but if it does, what then?  Amazon ain't nobody's friend and it won't be rolling into our town to make it a better place.  In fact, as you implied, just the opposite scenario may occur if Jeff Bezos' will be done. His primary order of business will be to (take your pick): (a) neutralize; (b) weaken; © absorb; (d) annihilate Kroger, P&G and/or Macy's.  As it stands now, Cincinnati is truly a formidable marketing/retail citadel that this Seattle Death Star genius would just love to breach and incorporate into his Borg army.  No matter how weak and vulnerable each may be, Cincy's three giant retailers are nevertheless strong players still standing.  Very soon, Nelson Peltz will drop down out of his own Trojan horse into our midst to become a dangerous threat.  However it's accomplished, taking care of this toxic character should remain our first concern.   

Another thing that landing HQ2 would do is to give Cincy a safety net. Amazon is targeting companies like Macy’s and Kroger. If one of those disappears, shrinks, or is acquired, or if something happens to P&G with the addition of Nelson Peltz to the board, having HQ2 here would make the loss less impactful.

Like several others here, I seriously doubt that Cincinnati will ever land HQ2 - but if it does, what then?  Amazon ain't nobody's friend and it won't be rolling into our town to make it a better place.  In fact, as you implied, just the opposite scenario may occur if Jeff Bezos' will be done. His primary order of business will be to (take your pick): (a) neutralize; (b) weaken; © absorb; (d) annihilate Kroger, P&G and/or Macy's.  As it stands now, Cincinnati is truly a formidable marketing/retail citadel that this Seattle Death Star genius would just love to breach and incorporate into his Borg army.  No matter how weak and vulnerable each may be, Cincy's three giant retailers are nevertheless strong players still standing.  Very soon, Nelson Peltz will drop down out of his own Trojan horse into our midst to become a dangerous threat.  However it's accomplished, taking care of this toxic character should remain our first concern.   

 

What would help Cincinnati is a mass influx of transplants who have seen how the rest of the world works and would consider what's "Normal" in Cincinnati to be bonkers.  It would help break the "Cincinnati mentality" and allow for new ideas to flow into the city.

Another thing that landing HQ2 would do is to give Cincy a safety net. Amazon is targeting companies like Macy’s and Kroger. If one of those disappears, shrinks, or is acquired, or if something happens to P&G with the addition of Nelson Peltz to the board, having HQ2 here would make the loss less impactful.

Like several others here, I seriously doubt that Cincinnati will ever land HQ2 - but if it does, what then?  Amazon ain't nobody's friend and it won't be rolling into our town to make it a better place.  In fact, as you implied, just the opposite scenario may occur if Jeff Bezos' will be done. His primary order of business will be to (take your pick): (a) neutralize; (b) weaken; © absorb; (d) annihilate Kroger, P&G and/or Macy's.  As it stands now, Cincinnati is truly a formidable marketing/retail citadel that this Seattle Death Star genius would just love to breach and incorporate into his Borg army.  No matter how weak and vulnerable each may be, Cincy's three giant retailers are nevertheless strong players still standing.  Very soon, Nelson Peltz will drop down out of his own Trojan horse into our midst to become a dangerous threat.  However it's accomplished, taking care of this toxic character should remain our first concern.   

 

Amazon is going to be attacking Kroger, Macy's, and P&G no matter where they are physically located. And as long as we continue to pump money into the tech sector and believe that technology will be the solution to all of our problems, Amazon will probably succeed at hurting those companies. So, it would at least be better to have Amazon here (and benefit from their presence) than to have them killing our hometown companies from afar.

^Exactly.

I'm more or less a person who believes Amazon isn't going to take out Kroger or P&G.  Maybe Macy's.  The thing about Amazon and Kroger / P&G I think is going to be a bit like the Google or whoever does all the tech for driverless vehicles, and GM and Chevy. 

 

Tech companies are never, on their own, be able to form the relationships, logistical experience, etc. etc. in a short time (talking even 20 years) that a company like P&G and Kroger have with their supply chain and management.

 

They are a classic disruptor and innovator and Amazon is MASSIVE, no doubt, but I doubt Amazon could ever buy a Kroger or P&G.  They could take away a bunch of business and cut in that way, but Kroger and P&G are most likely going to be investing tons of money to compete with the things Amazon is good at, while Amazon is obviously investing tons of money to get that slice of pie Kroger has.

 

Just my thoughts...

 

*Edit: I wasn't saying anyone here was stating that Amazon would take those companies out, just a general thought about it is all  ;D

You're right to say Amazon doesn't have the same kind of data points Kroger/84.51 does, and it doesn't have the PLM expertise P&G does. What remains to be seen is how Macy's responds. It seems the smart move would be to continue selling its real estate and move directly into Amazon's online space as a competitor. At least then they would have some chance of success, while their current model has none--their stores are aesthetically turgid and their online presence is...wanting. But it'll take an enormous shift in focus, and I wonder whether their new eBay execs are equal to it.

 

 

 

 

^The smartest thing that Macy could do is to become a Nordstrom clone.  Higher quality, cleaner stores, fewer stores, with a nice in-store restaurant/cafe, and very personable associates that help you shop plus offering personal shoppers.  Many people dread trying on clothes due to body type issues or ignorance regarding style, fit, etc. so having an expert make suggestions is a huge relief for those people.  Nordstrom is being successful by being the best version of what department stores were prior to the 1970s.  They offer an experience, not just the cheapest possible price for product X.  Amazon can't do that. 

 

Also department stores don't really drive eachother out of business that often; they complement each other anchoring malls and shopping districts together.  So if they just became a Nordstrom clone, there's plenty of room for that.

I'm more or less a person who believes Amazon isn't going to take out Kroger or P&G.  Maybe Macy's.  The thing about Amazon and Kroger / P&G I think is going to be a bit like the Google or whoever does all the tech for driverless vehicles, and GM and Chevy. 

 

Tech companies are never, on their own, be able to form the relationships, logistical experience, etc. etc. in a short time (talking even 20 years) that a company like P&G and Kroger have with their supply chain and management.

 

They are a classic disruptor

 

Disruptors make everyone else lose money so that the disruptor can lose money for years.

Wcpo reporting sams club in Loveland and Oakley are shutting down. Glad we have all those nice pretty surface lots.

Interesting, you don't hear about Sam's Clubs closing that often. I can see Oakley closing since there's not much need for 144-count fruit snack cubes when houses average 1000 square feet.

I'm more or less a person who believes Amazon isn't going to take out Kroger or P&G.  Maybe Macy's.  The thing about Amazon and Kroger / P&G I think is going to be a bit like the Google or whoever does all the tech for driverless vehicles, and GM and Chevy. 

 

Tech companies are never, on their own, be able to form the relationships, logistical experience, etc. etc. in a short time (talking even 20 years) that a company like P&G and Kroger have with their supply chain and management.

 

They are a classic disruptor and innovator and Amazon is MASSIVE, no doubt, but I doubt Amazon could ever buy a Kroger or P&G.  They could take away a bunch of business and cut in that way, but Kroger and P&G are most likely going to be investing tons of money to compete with the things Amazon is good at, while Amazon is obviously investing tons of money to get that slice of pie Kroger has.

You're right to say Amazon doesn't have the same kind of data points Kroger/84.51 does, and it doesn't have the PLM expertise P&G does. What remains to be seen is how Macy's responds. It seems the smart move would be to continue selling its real estate and move directly into Amazon's online space as a competitor. At least then they would have some chance of success, while their current model has none--their stores are aesthetically turgid and their online presence is...wanting. But it'll take an enormous shift in focus, and I wonder whether their new eBay execs are equal to it.

Pretty much agreed.  Although Macy's will unfortunately remain a prime takeover target, not so much for P&G and almost zilch for Kroger (at least by Amazon).

 

At this point, P&G's biggest survival threat is its enormous internal struggle with a mob of greedy shareholders led by one "activist investor," Nelson Peltz - whose own nefarious ulterior motives are frightening.  This threat is all too real; if worse comes to worst, Cincinnati's most venerated company could end up being dismantled or moved elsewhere.

 

Kroger presents a huge challenge for Amazon.  As unstoppable as Amazon may be overall, in the food wars it's still just a yappy yard dog with a big bark trying hard to run with the big dogs up on the porch - in this case, Walmart and Kroger.  As yet, nowhere has Amazon bested Kroger in much of anything, except distribution power and drone technology.  For example, do Amazon's much ballyhooed algorithms trump those of Kroger's 84.51?  Are millions of foodies now flocking into Whole Foods?  I think not.  The fact is that Amazon's undoubtedly learning more from Kroger about selling food than Kroger is from it.  What worries me the most, though, are all those business rumors hinting that, to achieve sense of scale, Kroger is about to align itself with a giant European food retailer - specifically Ahold Dehaize.  Although in 2016, Kroger's revenue was $115.3 billion and AD was $62.3 billion, their merger could conceivably result in AD actually acquiring Kroger.  To say the least, what a disaster that would be - instead of Cincinnati becoming headquarters to possibly the world's largest food store chain, it loses its most profitable company to Zaamdam, Netherlands!  Damn.

 

 

 

 

 

Interesting, you don't hear about Sam's Clubs closing that often. I can see Oakley closing since there's not much need for 144-count fruit snack cubes when houses average 1000 square feet.

 

I'm not surprised that the only remaining Sam's Clubs in Greater Cincinnati are in the far-out burbs. Urban dwellers generally don't want to buy (and don't have a place to store) a 144-roll pack of toilet paper or a 48-can box of Campbell's soup.

Interesting, you don't hear about Sam's Clubs closing that often. I can see Oakley closing since there's not much need for 144-count fruit snack cubes when houses average 1000 square feet.

 

I'm not surprised that the only remaining Sam's Clubs in Greater Cincinnati are in the far-out burbs. Urban dwellers generally don't want to buy (and don't have a place to store) a 144-roll pack of toilet paper or a 48-can box of Campbell's soup.

 

Does Sam's club only sell things in multiples of 12?

Many if not most items in wholesaling are sold in multiples of 12 because of the way the boxes stack.  You don't want a cube.  You want something with a 2:3 proportion so that cases can be staggered like bricks. 

I don't think this is any indication that Amazon has picked Boston for HQ2. Boston has the tech talent that Amazon wants so they are expanding their software development shop there. However they may not want to add a large amount of back office staff in such an expensive city.

Wal-Mart's HQ is in Bentonville, AK.  This is where their executives, lawyers, accountants, etc., work.  Their tech stuff is elsewhere. 

 

There is this idea out there that because Amazon started as a website that it's more "tech" than Wal-Mart, but at some point it won't be, if it isn't there already.  Wal-Mart's website isn't as big as Amazon's, but it is gigantic by any measure.  They also have all sorts of tech in their distribution centers. 

That's true if you are comparing Walmart's retail website to Amazon's retail website. But that ignores the fact that Amazon also runs the AWS platform, which is probably the world's biggest web host. It is truly a massive operation and just about every web service you can think of runs on AWS.

Wal-Mart's HQ is in Bentonville, AK.  This is where their executives, lawyers, accountants, etc., work.  Their tech stuff is elsewhere. 

 

There is this idea out there that because Amazon started as a website that it's more "tech" than Wal-Mart, but at some point it won't be, if it isn't there already.  Wal-Mart's website isn't as big as Amazon's, but it is gigantic by any measure.  They also have all sorts of tech in their distribution centers. 

 

Wal-Mart is discussed in MIS classes as being a benchmark for using tech in brick and mortor retail operations.  They have more tech than you may think....

When you're as obsessed with JIT as Wal-Mart is, you have to be. I'm obsessed with JIT as well since product demand is always so unpredictable. Unfortunately, the most I'm able to do with JIT is to try to call our distributors at the right time with the order that I think is the right size.

More than ever, this news verifies the fact that Amazon means business at CVG...and I do mean business.  Anyone with a crystal ball can predict just what a seismic change Amazon's entry into the airport will bring to the entire region.  Therefore, before it disappears into the stacks, I'd like to encourage everyone to review the article linked below:

 

https://www.lanereport.com/75668/2017/04/amazon-fulfills-kentuckys-goal-to-be-worlds-logistics-leader/

 

Even though this piece was published nearly a year ago, it covers the gamut when detailing the looming influence of Amazon in Kentucky and although it's one of the longest treatments ever published concerning the subject, it's certainly one of the most informative assessments ever penned defining the immense sea change headed our way.

^ Imagine what a greater impact this could have if KY repealed its "right-to-work" law.

More than ever, this news verifies the fact that Amazon means business at CVG...and I do mean business.  Anyone with a crystal ball can predict just what a seismic change Amazon's entry into the airport will bring to the entire region.  Therefore, before it disappears into the stacks, I'd like to encourage everyone to review the article linked below:

 

https://www.lanereport.com/75668/2017/04/amazon-fulfills-kentuckys-goal-to-be-worlds-logistics-leader/

 

Even though this piece was published nearly a year ago, it covers the gamut when detailing the looming influence of Amazon in Kentucky and although it's one of the longest treatments ever published concerning the subject, it's certainly one of the most informative assessments ever penned defining the immense sea change headed our way.

 

If you look at the 1,000 acres where this is planned, it is inevitable that landings and takeoffs on the center north/south runway will travel directly over this facility.  It could be pretty agrivating to work there if you are constantly hearing jets 100 overhead. 

 

 

 

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