August 26, 20204 yr Better views of the intersection. Paint is way off now so I'm curious if DOTE will just restripe or if Ackermann will try to use TIF money to repave the whole thing. Parking meters are installed and running on Madison west of the intersection and southern Whetsel. Signs are up on Madison indicating no parking during rush hours. Ravenna next to phase 1 building has poles but no meters for the 5 or 6 parking spots there. Prentice west of Whetsel has signs prohibiting parking now too but people seem to violate that all the time. I did see a City traffic enforcement car traveling on Roe
August 28, 20204 yr On 6/10/2020 at 10:34 AM, jjakucyk said: At the very least the curb/sidewalk on the north side of Madison wasn't moved, it was just rebuilt in place. It appears that Madison is only 45 feet wide so the current 5-lane configuration really isn't appropriate. It's generally regarded that lanes less than 10 feet wide lead to more crashes and incidents like jumping curbs and whatnot. I don't know if it reduces incidents involving pedestrians or cyclists, but 10 feet is the sweet spot. The simplest solution would be to allow permanent street parking at the curb, which only needs to be 7-8 feet, leaving room for three 30 foot lanes. Instead of parking it could be buffered bike lanes. You could do the Chicago thing with parking plus bike lanes, leaving just one vehicle travel lane each way. https://goo.gl/maps/miTX2pb7hw8mY8NS8 At intersections the parking stops and the bike lanes move over to allow room for a left turn lane. East of Whetsel is an absolute mess. Nebulous parking bays, lanes that wander left and right, wide seemingly uncontrolled pavement. Past the railroad overpass the street narrows a couple of feet and it looks like there's two lanes each way but it's not striped, etc. I am looking for more feedback and suggestions about Madison Road. I have been invited to a meeting with the City to talk about Madison Road within the NBD. I don't know the full invite list yet, but I am worried there will be too much focus on increasing parking capacity to help current businesses and residents, instead of focusing on ways to mitigate the need for more parking. The RoW is 60 foot wide along the corridor and I assume there should be a 10 foot sidewalk to maximize pedestrian use and safety. That leaves 40 feet for the roadway. Traffic count indicates that just 2 travel lanes should be sufficient, and NACTO states that the lanes should be 11 foot because they are used by transit. That only leaves 18 feet. Should there be a continuous Two-Way Left Turn Lane down the whole route or is that not necessary? I assume there needs to be parking on both sides of the road from Ravenna to Mathis to help support the businesses there as well as calm traffic but a bike lane would be fantastic, especially since there will be a large public library at Whetsel.
August 28, 20204 yr 29 minutes ago, Dev said: I am looking for more feedback and suggestions about Madison Road. I have been invited to a meeting with the City to talk about Madison Road within the NBD. I don't know the full invite list yet, but I am worried there will be too much focus on increasing parking capacity to help current businesses and residents, instead of focusing on ways to mitigate the need for more parking. The RoW is 60 foot wide along the corridor and I assume there should be a 10 foot sidewalk to maximize pedestrian use and safety. That leaves 40 feet for the roadway. Traffic count indicates that just 2 travel lanes should be sufficient, and NACTO states that the lanes should be 11 foot because they are used by transit. That only leaves 18 feet. Should there be a continuous Two-Way Left Turn Lane down the whole route or is that not necessary? I assume there needs to be parking on both sides of the road from Ravenna to Mathis to help support the businesses there as well as calm traffic but a bike lane would be fantastic, especially since there will be a large public library at Whetsel. I never understood the whole needing more parking. For handicap people I understand the need, but there’s so many spaces along these side streets that are underutilized. If anything build a Mercer commons type building somewhere close to the business district.
August 28, 20204 yr 5 minutes ago, Ucgrad2015 said: I never understood the whole needing more parking. For handicap people I understand the need, but there’s so many spaces along these side streets that are underutilized. If anything build a Mercer commons type building somewhere close to the business district. I think it's a self-centered perspective. People think that more parking will be for them to use, but in reality, in a built-up urban environment, parking will be taken up by people driving into the neighborhood. Or people just think it's the 1980's still. I was also wondering if bus bump outs would be good along Madison to help make transit more competitive and help reduce car dependency in all those rentals along the route.
August 28, 20204 yr 13 minutes ago, Dev said: I think it's a self-centered perspective. People think that more parking will be for them to use, but in reality, in a built-up urban environment, parking will be taken up by people driving into the neighborhood. Or people just think it's the 1980's still. I was also wondering if bus bump outs would be good along Madison to help make transit more competitive and help reduce car dependency in all those rentals along the route. I’ve been to a few of the Madisonville council meetings and it seems to go like this. Random person: “I want Madisonville to be a walkable neighborhood with shops and eateries” Developer: “Thats what we’re hoping to create” Random person: “But don’t decrease the parking lot spaces, if anything we need to add more” I honestly just do not understand people on how they want walkable but they still want to drive right up to where they want to go.
August 28, 20204 yr Nobody wants to sit or walk on a sidewalk just a foot or two away from cars flying by at 35 mph (the posted limit). I think Madisonville should advocate for making the speed limit 25 mph through the business district, and implementing a road design that forces cars to slow down (since speed limits are less effective than road design). Slower traffic will make the business district more attractive for both residents and visitors. Even with slower traffic, one benefit of allowing on-street parking is that it can make the sidewalk safer for pedestrians and/or outdoor cafe seating. So, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to incorporating on-street parking if it's designed well. I wouldn't want "rush hour restricted" parking, because that means the sidewalks will be the least hospitable during rush hour, which is when you want to encourage people to be out on the sidewalks.
August 28, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, jwulsin said: Nobody wants to sit or walk on a sidewalk just a foot or two away from cars flying by at 35 mph (the posted limit). I think Madisonville should advocate for making the speed limit 25 mph through the business district, and implementing a road design that forces cars to slow down (since speed limits are less effective than road design). Slower traffic will make the business district more attractive for both residents and visitors. Even with slower traffic, one benefit of allowing on-street parking is that it can make the sidewalk safer for pedestrians and/or outdoor cafe seating. So, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to incorporating on-street parking if it's designed well. I wouldn't want "rush hour restricted" parking, because that means the sidewalks will be the least hospitable during rush hour, which is when you want to encourage people to be out on the sidewalks. It currently is 25 in the NBD but it's 30 once you get past Mathis. Of course it becomes such a hellscape that people are flying close to 40 on the regular. I hate rush hour restricted parking. When it hits 6 pm who is going to be the first brave soul to try to park in that lane? Just make it consistent. I already know people will complain about traffic being bad without the extra capacity but the City should just create more interruptions to the traffic flow to space out the traffic and prevent large stacking at the main intersections. I know the Community Council has asked DOTE to place 4-way stops at Roe and Whetsel as well as Chandler and Whetsel so maybe that would help. Also interesting to note that the City's bike plan, that isn't being implemented, has a bike lane the entire route of Madison, except in the Oakley NBD where it's a sharrow.
August 30, 20204 yr Looks like the anti-Ankerman crowd ain't done yet. If it's just a motion, does that mean DOTE isn't actually required to perform the study? Can Cranley veto it? I still do not understand the differences between an ordinance and a motion.
August 30, 20204 yr A motion carries zero legal weight. It just means "City Council wants the administration to do this" and the Mayor/City Manager/DOTE could ignore it.
August 31, 20204 yr This is quite ambitious. The front of the home actually faces the rail line and they are reversing it because that strip is part of the rail RoW. Meanwhile, it's tucked behind a vacant mixed building that used to have a convenience store on the 1st floor. It is owned by the same LLC and I was just told that they want to turn it into a duplex. They also own a vacant lot next to this listing. The driveway for neighboring 5714 Roe is actually public RoW.https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5704-Roe-St-Cincinnati-OH-45227/2078040387_zpid Over the weekend I also saw the owner of Red Sesame talking to someone in front of his property on Whetsel. The person had the general appearance of a contractor.
August 31, 20204 yr 17 minutes ago, Dev said: This is quite ambitious. The front of the home actually faces the rail line and they are reversing it because that strip is part of the rail RoW. Meanwhile, it's tucked behind a vacant mixed building that used to have a convenience store on the 1st floor. It is owned by the same LLC and I was just told that they want to turn it into a duplex. They also own a vacant lot next to this listing. The driveway for neighboring 5714 Roe is actually public RoW.https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5704-Roe-St-Cincinnati-OH-45227/2078040387_zpid Over the weekend I also saw the owner of Red Sesame talking to someone in front of his property on Whetsel. The person had the general appearance of a contractor. Always fun to see old homes get renovated, especially on tricky parcels that require some creativity. The renderings of 5704 Roe show clapboard siding, but the existing house (which they're renovating) is brick. Not sure if that was just lazy/cheap rendering, or if they intend to wrap the brick in clapboard. The renderings also show the walkway leading to the east, to the empty lot at 5706, implying that the driveway/parking/garage would be on 5706. Perhaps the developer plans to build on 5706 and there would be a shared driveway/parking for both parcels.
August 31, 20204 yr 2 minutes ago, jwulsin said: Always fun to see old homes get renovated, especially on tricky parcels that require some creativity. The renderings of 5704 Roe show clapboard siding, but the existing house (which they're renovating) is brick. Not sure if that was just lazy/cheap rendering, or if they intend to wrap the brick in clapboard. The renderings also show the walkway leading to the east, to the empty lot at 5706, implying that the driveway/parking/garage would be on 5706. Perhaps the developer plans to build on 5706 and there would be a shared driveway/parking for both parcels. Thanks for the picture, that really helps explain it better. I noticed the siding as well and I also hope they maintain the brick. It looks like the brick needs repointing which yeah, clapboard sounds a lot cheaper. Some gravel is already down in front of the house but it's not entirely clear if it will become a driveway though it does go towards the RoW stub.
August 31, 20204 yr Progress shots: I'm not sure what is going on here. What "guests" are coming to the property? Contractors? This looks like a fight waiting to happen: One window has been filled in but not painted, while 2 were added to the new front: I also noticed that the Red Sesame building has a post with a separate electrical box and address listed on it. I assume that the whole building will be disconnected from the grid and completely rewired. Finally, Phase 1 of Ackermann only has 2 retail spots. The one at the corner is still roughed in with no flooring and no drywall. Notice of availability specifies restaurant and bar. Meanwhile, the other spot that sits facing Madison and next to their offices, does not have a lease sign and is having drywall installed so it looks like they found their first tenant. Multiple Midland Retail signs are in the opposing storefront owned by the City.
September 2, 20204 yr Check out this home at Realtor.com $279,500 3beds · 3 baths 5704 Roe St, Cincinnati https://b1iw.app.link/5d9XZJFOs9 https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5703-Tompkins-Ave_Cincinnati_OH_45227_M33476-98278?cid=other_shares_core_ldp
September 3, 20204 yr 17 hours ago, cincydave8 said: Check out this home at Realtor.com $279,500 3beds · 3 baths 5704 Roe St, Cincinnati https://b1iw.app.link/5d9XZJFOs9 https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5703-Tompkins-Ave_Cincinnati_OH_45227_M33476-98278?cid=other_shares_core_ldp That property was posted here on this thread earlier this week: On 8/31/2020 at 11:41 AM, Dev said: This is quite ambitious. The front of the home actually faces the rail line and they are reversing it because that strip is part of the rail RoW. Meanwhile, it's tucked behind a vacant mixed building that used to have a convenience store on the 1st floor. It is owned by the same LLC and I was just told that they want to turn it into a duplex. They also own a vacant lot next to this listing. The driveway for neighboring 5714 Roe is actually public RoW.https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5704-Roe-St-Cincinnati-OH-45227/2078040387_zpid Over the weekend I also saw the owner of Red Sesame talking to someone in front of his property on Whetsel. The person had the general appearance of a contractor.
September 16, 20204 yr Thanks fellas ... For those that live in Madville, we started a neighborhood bonfire gathering on Friday nights and it's starting to grow pretty quick (near adelphi/lucerne/whitney) PM me if you're interested in coming by! Last weekend we had about 10-15 neighbors! Pretty cool stuff!
September 16, 20204 yr PLK moving pretty quick this last month. Picture taken from Stewart. Looks like foundations of the new buildings on Madison are complete. The rest of the site has been cleared and leveled. It also appears that the on-site water retention had been completed.
September 17, 20204 yr This infill project just on the other side of the city line is already pending. Most of the homes on the street have 1 or 1.5 floors but the incline in the road prevents it from looming over its neighbors. It is extremely close to the house on the right/east though.https://finn-team.com/property/6828-vinewood-avenue/
September 17, 20204 yr The Madisonville Community Council is asking for feedback for future Community Budget Requests to send to the City Administration. Suggestions need to be submitted by September 23rd so that plans can be approved by the Community Council and sent to the City by October 23rd: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/3TQS3DD A lot of people in the community are complaining about speeding and reckless driving but only want to solve those problems with traffic enforcement. There are also a lot of concerns about parking, which seems to detract from a better neighborhood experience. More info here:https://www.ourmadisonville.com/community-budget-request
September 22, 20204 yr On 8/31/2020 at 12:06 PM, jwulsin said: The renderings also show the walkway leading to the east, to the empty lot at 5706, implying that the driveway/parking/garage would be on 5706. Perhaps the developer plans to build on 5706 and there would be a shared driveway/parking for both parcels. 5706 Roe Street is now listed for sale at $320k. The new 3 bed, 2.5 bath SFH with attached 2-car will have 1,739 finished sqft which comes to about $184 per sqft. The new house would go to the right of this picture and some stakes are visible. It looks like there wasn't any dispute with the neighbor about the driveway but that house did have a census notification taped to the door so it's possible it's not inhabited.
September 22, 20204 yr There are several other unique real estate moves in the neighborhood. Here is a random collection. Overgrowth clearing at 5710 and 5714 Carothers Street. The house in background is a flag lot at 5708 Carothers Street. Same owner for all 3 lots: Addition being built at 4434 Whetsel Avenue by a LLC: Status on 6008 Bramble Avenue: Major overhaul at 6613 Bramble Avenue by a LLC. I'm curious how this will be priced:
September 23, 20204 yr PLK has signs up stating that pre-leasing has started for The Jameson development at Madison and Stewart. It is on all the apartment websites but there are no layouts or pricing available. Prospective tenants must contact them first. Also, contractors have started renovation work on the future location of Red Sesame.
September 23, 20204 yr 32 minutes ago, Dev said: PLK has signs up stating that pre-leasing has started for The Jameson development at Madison and Stewart. It is on all the apartment websites but there are no layouts or pricing available. Prospective tenants must contact them first. Also, contractors have started renovation work on the future location of Red Sesame. Excited for all of these new developments happening throughout our neighborhood. There’s a lot of vacant land in the neighborhood that will hopefully get filled in with housing. One parcel that I am particularly interested in is the one across from the St. Paul Lutheran Church. I am assuming at one point in time there was a house there.
September 23, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, Ucgrad2015 said: Excited for all of these new developments happening throughout our neighborhood. There’s a lot of vacant land in the neighborhood that will hopefully get filled in with housing. One parcel that I am particularly interested in is the one across from the St. Paul Lutheran Church. I am assuming at one point in time there was a house there. Until recently yes, there were 2 multis and a historical SFH across from the church. The multis were built in the early 60's and purchased by a LLC registered at Medpace back in 2013, then demolished the next year. I have been told that they made for some traffic conflicts which makes sense. Due to the elevation change, I would imagine westbound traffic on Madison would have difficulty seeing cars pulling in and out of the apartments. At the risk of sounding pessimistic, I really doubt Medpace will sell or redevelop these lots. Sunesis Properties owns the parcel at Anderson and Madison. They bought the home in 2018 and demolished it the following year though it is still visible on Google Earth. It's pretty clear to me that the home was built back in the 19th century. Sunesis was the company that demolished the Dennison Hotel and built the Duck Creek/Medpace Connector. They have also built some subdivisions out in Liberty TWP and Kings Mills. They were the previous owners of the Stewart house, and adjacent properties, before being bought out by PLK. They still own a ranch at 5016 Anderson Place which abuts the PLK development. It looks like it was originally part of the same deal to buy out 5500 Madison. I am curious why PLK didn't want those 2 properties as well but they are giving an easement of their land on Anderson Place to PLK for a piece of their parking lot.
September 25, 20204 yr On 8/26/2020 at 11:35 AM, Dev said: Better views of the intersection. Paint is way off now so I'm curious if DOTE will just restripe or if Ackermann will try to use TIF money to repave the whole thing. Madison and Whetsel was stripped of its top layer of asphalt yesterday in all four directions. Temporary paint lines indicate longer left turn lanes on both sides of Whetsel. The lanes will be shifted to absorb the extra width created by moving the south Madison curb back about 3 or 4 feet. The shift in lanes on Madison in front of Millie's remains which was indicated by the new curb as well. EB Madison will also feature a lane shift at the intersection with Ravenna, where the curbs are no longer match.
October 20, 20204 yr Anyone interested in some land speculation? A blank and cleared 5832 Arnsby Place for $65k. What the listing fails to mention is that the lot does not have water or fire hydrant access. Also, the whole line on Arnsby Place needs to be replaced for it to be extended to this parcel. There's also no sidewalk or curbs but I would hope a prospective buyer would notice it. A blank and cleared 5500 Madison Road for $350k! This is the property owned by Sunesis, the developer who preceded PLK. I guess PLK didn't want this lot and they are finally getting around to selling it, though I wonder if there was a non-compete clause. It is part of the form based code area so I look forward to future fights about how a developer wants to build.
November 5, 20204 yr Some finishing touches on Medpace. The timing on this light is awful. People wait at the light starting at each other because no one comes in or out of Medpace. They recently resurfaced their now-private drive, which is 6 lanes. The garage is still ugly. The City turned on the street lights at Madison and Whetsel, which looks bizarre. I might just have to get used to it but with such little life at the intersection, it currently makes the corner look more barren than it is. The Stewart home has been repainted and has new windows. The shutters are fixed as well, finally. I'll try to take a picture because they are moving fast. That old warehouse that everyone is curious about also has new windows.
November 5, 20204 yr The Center of Cincinnati has put me in the awkward position of admiring stuff like this on the city's perimeter. Thanks Center of Cincinnati.
November 5, 20204 yr 4 hours ago, Dev said: The timing on this light is awful. People wait at the light starting at each other because no one comes in or out of Medpace. They recently resurfaced their now-private drive, which is 6 lanes. I assume/hope the bad light timing is because they had half their drive blocked off with construction equipment and disabled the traffic detectors there, putting the signal controller into some sort of default/worst case scenario state. We shall see if that gets resolved now that it's wrapping up. The whole Madison/Redbank/Duck Creek/Medpace conglomeration is such a mess, and all those three intersections switch to a MUCH different program starting sometime in the mid afternoon as it shifts from prioritizing southbound traffic to northbound traffic. All the no turn on red signals make it very frustrating to navigate.
November 5, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, jjakucyk said: I assume/hope the bad light timing is because they had half their drive blocked off with construction equipment and disabled the traffic detectors there, putting the signal controller into some sort of default/worst case scenario state. We shall see if that gets resolved now that it's wrapping up. The whole Madison/Redbank/Duck Creek/Medpace conglomeration is such a mess, and all those three intersections switch to a MUCH different program starting sometime in the mid afternoon as it shifts from prioritizing southbound traffic to northbound traffic. All the no turn on red signals make it very frustrating to navigate. There is one upside to the current bad timing. During the afternoon rush, traffic back-ups because of the extra long light at Stewart, so there is a break-up of the traffic at Medpace, instead of people blocking the intersection. Also, the Madison/Red Bank intersection can actually shrink a bit because there's no need for the 2 right turn lanes or the 2 left turn lanes. In theory, a cycle track could go along Duck Creek Road and the Medpace connector to connect the high school and Westwood subdivision to the core of the neighborhood but lol good luck. What no turn on red signals are you referring to?
November 5, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, Dev said: What no turn on red signals are you referring to? You can't turn left from southbound Redbank to Medpace Way except on a green arrow (protected-only). That's super annoying in the morning because the timing of that turn signal only allows 5-6 vehicles through maximum. It will allow double that if not more in the afternoon/evening though. Maybe it's protected-only because of the opposing double left from northbound Redbank to Duck Creek and visibility issues, but I'm not sure. Southbound Redbank to eastbound Madison is also protected-only because that's a double left turn. For perhaps the same reason as at Duck Creek, northbound Redbank to westbound Madison is protected-only even though it's just a single turn lane. Even eastbound Madison to northbound Redbank is protected-only, probably because of the double right turn lane from westbound Madison to Northbound Redbank which itself is protected-only as well, even though nobody uses that movement anymore, nor do they obey the red right arrows anyway (Ohio does NOT allow right turn on red at a red arrow, though some states do). In fact, now there's no reason you couldn't just turn Madison/Redbank back into a simple 5-lane configuration with protected-permissive lefts (doghouse signals) and single left turn lanes, kind of like you described. The left from southbound Redbank to Medpace Way could be a double turn lane since they made room for it, and it wouldn't need to change the current signal phasing in that case.
November 19, 20204 yr ^The removal of the trees/shrubs at the corner of Madison and Stewart is un-recognizable in those photos.
November 19, 20204 yr 3 minutes ago, ucgrady said: ^The removal of the trees/shrubs at the corner of Madison and Stewart is un-recognizable in those photos. Oh absolutely. The landscaping plan looks really encouraging though and I think the curb is going to be widened as well.
December 29, 20204 yr Taken this afternoon. Developer was intending to have a 10 foot sidewalk along their property and an large landscaping plan here at the corner. The new builds are noticeably closer to the curb than the existing buildings on either end of the block. They feel almost too close so hopefully there's some good traffic calming potential here in the future.
January 7, 20214 yr Updates on Madisonville construction projects (from what I’ve seen driving through and searching online): The Jamison: All duplexes fronting Madison rd. are up and the ones right behind them seem to be underway as well. Clubhouse looks to be close to finished. 5629 Madison rd.: Was an old ice house that had been in disrepair for awhile. Currently is getting bee siding kind of looks like the siding they are using in the Jameson. They are also working in the inside. Still not sure what it is going to be once completed. Medpace development: Basically completed except some exterior finishes. Not sure if the food hall portion has started yet or not or if it’s even going to happen now. Would also like to see the parking lot north of the new tower to be developed. Also not sure about the status of the apartments that we’re going to go up next to it (they tried to buy the UDF and move them but apparently that did not happen). I honestly think that location for them is horrible to get in and out of and they would do much better at the northeastern corner of Medpace way and Madison rd. Which is apparently where Medpace was wanting them to go. 4851 Red Bank ( The Red office and retail center): Nothing as of yet, not even sure if it’s still a go but it is still fenced off and there is still construction equipment (pretty sure the apartments are completed) Madison and Whetsel: Phase 2 building is up and work is continuing. Phase 3 broke ground this week (Was afraid that this parking study was going to derail the project). There are also a crap ton of renovations going on throughout the neighborhood and a couple of new single family homes being built. I will try to get some photos this weekend.
January 7, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Ucgrad2015 said: There are also a crap ton of renovations going on throughout the neighborhood and a couple of new single family homes being built. I will try to get some photos this weekend. I've been keeping an eye on 4812 Jameson because it was demolished last year and permits mention they are planning to build new there. It's the first one-for-one teardown that I have noticed. 6209 Chandler was demolished last month as well for a one-for-one replacement. That company has a long history within the neighborhood, including the current infill at 6008 Bramble. Also, 6229 East Sierra was recently listed for sale at $234k. It is behind Mazunte and the empty ice cream shop. I assume, that at that price, it will attract professional flippers but the lot is wide enough for other opportunities, especially with the vacant building behind it.
January 7, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Ucgrad2015 said: 5629 Madison rd.: Was an old ice house that had been in disrepair for awhile. Currently is getting bee siding kind of looks like the siding they are using in the Jameson. They are also working in the inside. Still not sure what it is going to be once completed. The siding makes me sad. It's just corrugated metal roofing installed vertically which makes it look like a self-storage unit. Also the downlights they installed in the soffits don't match each other in color temperature at all.
January 7, 20214 yr Yeah it's really, really bad. I was waiting to reserve judgement until the front is finished but it's not looking great so far.
January 7, 20214 yr Simple lap siding would've looked perfectly fine. Vinyl would be unfortunate but still better than this. Or just stick with the fake tin brick that's already on the front. It doesn't look great, but it's appropriate. Is that even made anymore?
January 7, 20214 yr Madisonville's been on a tear lately with investors, development, rehabs, etc. It's crazy how much has changed just in the short time we lived here (May 2017, I believe?). Def a great area to buy into. I wonder what's going on with the small commercial space in M'ville's biz district? I'd assume whoever owns them is sitting on it.
January 7, 20214 yr 34 minutes ago, Cincinnatus said: Madisonville's been on a tear lately with investors, development, rehabs, etc. It's crazy how much has changed just in the short time we lived here (May 2017, I believe?). Def a great area to buy into. I wonder what's going on with the small commercial space in M'ville's biz district? I'd assume whoever owns them is sitting on it. Lol which one? There are a lot of buildings for sale or for lease. Ackermann gave an update last month at the Community Council meeting. They said they have gotten some interest here and there for their spaces but not a lot. Ackermann also manages the strip mall for the City now and is asking for a variance to allow for lighted signage above the stores so we can actually tell who is there. Apparently that was not specified in the FBC. People upset that the tenants will have to pay for the signage though. One of the auto body shops across from Dubwerx/Luxury is now for sale as well. It will be interesting to see who scoops that up since the lot is small.
January 8, 20214 yr The problem with Madisonville is that there is no predicate for development. Only incentives. Bad sign unless you are just milking the construction. Edited January 8, 20214 yr by 1400 Sycamore
January 8, 20214 yr There is though. Oakley Near. I know in Cincinnati there is this phenomenon of "crap next to palaces" but modern minds don't think that way since they want to get on top of things before they get too expensive. You know how in Columbus things mostly get slowly crappier as you go rather than one block being all fixed up and the next seeing no attention like in Cincinnati? Doing things the Columbus way is how more money can be made with less initial investment. Then you toss in the economic development incentives and you're cooking with gas. This is how things get done in D.C. neighborhoods as well.
January 8, 20214 yr Madisonville is taking on the character of any number of disjointed Nashville neighborhoods.
January 8, 20214 yr Yes another good example. But uh, you don't want to wind up totally like Nashville is now.
January 8, 20214 yr 8 hours ago, GCrites80s said: Yes another good example. But uh, you don't want to wind up totally like Nashville is now. The thing is that Cincinnati has at least 2X as much prewar housing than Columbus and 4X as much as Nashville that meant it took a lot more time for the post-2015 home-buying binge to motivate large-scale tear-downs and new homes on odd lots. But we're definitely getting there on the east side of Cincinnati and the prices of homes on the west side are getting too expensive to rent out. A lot of the single-family homes around the region that are being used as rentals are going to go back to being owner-occupied, which is going to put a lot of stress on the rental market.
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