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After a significant lapse in posting, (2-3 years) fate now finds me not only occasionally visiting the Urban Ohio site, but actually calling the Buckeye State our home. Since I now also have an Ohio driver's license as well as having bought a turn of the last century old house in the town of Cadiz, I presume I can officially declare myself a (newbie) Buckeye. Been a long time coming...it merely took 12 years from the time I started thinking about moving to Ohio from (Fort Worth) Texas-yeah, I know what some of you  may be thinking: WTF? but then I've always been a contrarian-to now actually getting here. I guess patience is one of my virtues as well. Since we arrived and closed on our lovely old house in Cadiz in late October, I fully expected near arctic conditions to imminently descend upon us and keep us snow and ice bound until late April.  True, we did get a fair amount of snow a couple of weeks ago, but the Snow-Maggedon I was expecting has yet to materialize. Some misinformed folks down in Texas naively believe Ohio winters are worse than Alaska's but I have spent enough time in the Midwest (a couple of years in St. Joseph, MO in far northern Missouri) that I was skeptical of the extreme winter conditions I might find here. In fact, when we arrived in late October, there were a couple of days here when it was warmer by a few degrees than it was back in Texas which was mind boggling to me at the time. I personally like four season weather including some occasional snow so I see no reason to be filled with panic and dread.  I also like this Ohio Valley region, so far. The last time I visited the region was back around 2000 when I traveled along the river from East Liverpool down to Marietta. I'm looking forward to revisiting those areas in the months to come. This is a very picturesque region of the State, IMO.  Below is a photo of our home taken during the snowfall we recently had.

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    Can we all stop and appreciate the miraculous turnaround of the weather for the eclipse?    As recently as Friday it was saying rain with maybe some partial clearing. Today was about as good

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    Is the aurora weather? Anyway, just got back from the lakefront at Voinovich. Very cool and a decent crowd on hand that was growing by the minute. 

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1 hour ago, John S. said:

Some misinformed folks down in Texas naively believe Ohio winters are worse than Alaska's

 

Actually, it really depends where in Alaska lol. 

Cool house. The porch got enclosed at some point?  

10 hours ago, TheCOV said:

Cool house. The porch got enclosed at some point?  

Yes, a Cleveland Architect with the last name "Beer" designed the wrap around, art tiled porch and Porte Cochere (carriage port) I'm very fortunate to have been given blueprints dating from 1909 for the porch addition. However, perhaps to save space or to pack the blueprints in a drawer, they were folded and then folded again into a tight 6 x 6" bundle and the pieces are beginning to disintegrate so I would perhaps need the assistance of a paper conservator to unfold the fragile pieces. The original house was built for Cadiz inventor-industrialist Charles Scott in 1897 in a blend of late Queen Anne and Colonial Revival styles. Mr. Scott's wife, Martha, was descended from a family who came from the Isle of Wight in far southern England and they allegedly lived very near the ancient Carisbrooke Castle. (still an island tourist attraction)  In honor of that family legacy, the Scotts had "Carisbrooke" and the date of 1909 chiseled into the stone blocks at the entrance to the porch. Mr. Scott, a watchmaker, bicycle factory owner, and inventor by trade, invented and developed a belted mesh tire design at the turn of the last century which later on Goodyear of Akron bought the patents rights to allowing the Scotts to doll up their home. The once fine home has unfortunately lost a lot of the luster that it once had but it is my goal to bring it back.

Congrats again, and what a great history! I've save more than a few myself.

 

Ohio has an incredible architectural history all over the state, much of which has already been hauled off to the landfills. I'm so happy every single time I hear about one being rescued. We have reached the timeline where based on the age of what remains, we need capable hands to save these gems before it's too late. I've seen so much of razed in my 54 years, and I'm frankly alarmed how much is demoed every year. I'm so glad I wasn't quite born or old enough to witness the wholesale urban renewal clearance in the 50's/60's. 

Agreed about the losses over the years. As many know, Cleveland had one of the most incredible residential districts in the United States in the second half of the 19th century along Euclid Avenue now nearly all gone. Former Ohio Attorney General Mike Dewine (now Governor, of course) championed the "Moving Ohio Forward" program that was responsible for razing hundreds of thousands of "sub-standard" structures across the state after 2008. But even my own home in Texas, a very rare 1889 survivor, is awaiting being bulldozed for new apartments so historic preservation across the country is in a state of crisis, presently. I'm just glad to be able to take the loss of my former home of 31 years in Texas and use it for rescuing a worthy Ohio historic home that hopefully will be around for the future.  I realize all of this has little to do with the weather (more snow in Cadiz today) so I'll get off my soapbox right now and try to get back on topic.

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if there is one thing i do not miss about ohio -- !

 

 

 

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No joke: Cleveland hasn’t had a sunny day since November.

 

Updated Jan 07, 12:42 PM; Posted Jan 07, 7:00 AM

 

By Alexis Oatman, cleveland.com

 

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- How gray are Cleveland skies?

 

Cleveland last month was ranked the fifth “gloomiest city” in the nation, by move.org, with 202 cloudy days. The rankings were based on annual cloud cover nationwide as reported by NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

 

We haven’t had a purely sunny day since November.

 

In December, Cleveland had 25 cloudy days, six partly cloudy days, and zero clear days, according to the National Weather Service. Of January’s six full days, all of them have been cloudy.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2021/01/no-joke-cleveland-hasnt-had-a-sunny-day-since-november.html

 

 

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The good news is we don't need to buy much sunscreen.

12 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

 

 

if there is one thing i do not miss about ohio -- !

 

 

 

News

 

No joke: Cleveland hasn’t had a sunny day since November.

 

Updated Jan 07, 12:42 PM; Posted Jan 07, 7:00 AM

 

By Alexis Oatman, cleveland.com

 

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- How gray are Cleveland skies?

 

Cleveland last month was ranked the fifth “gloomiest city” in the nation, by move.org, with 202 cloudy days. The rankings were based on annual cloud cover nationwide as reported by NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

 

We haven’t had a purely sunny day since November.

 

In December, Cleveland had 25 cloudy days, six partly cloudy days, and zero clear days, according to the National Weather Service. Of January’s six full days, all of them have been cloudy.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2021/01/no-joke-cleveland-hasnt-had-a-sunny-day-since-november.html

 

 

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Ugh.  My two oldest kids (ages 5 and 3) got really into stargazing this fall, as nighttime started falling early enough that we could get outside in the dark before bed.  In October, we got to see Mars pass as close as it will until 2035 (https://www.space.com/mars-closest-to-earth-until-2035).  I told them that was just a warm-up for the main event, which was the upcoming Jupiter-Saturn conjunction (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/the-great-conjunction-of-jupiter-and-saturn), which hasn't happened since 1623 and hasn't happened at night in the northern hemisphere since the 1200s.

 

This December was one enormous disappointment to them, a milestone in the 18-year process of crushing their youthful innocence, curiosity, and energy to turn them into well-adjusted adults.

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I think the red solo cup is a good reference point with snowfall...less than = minor, more than = noteworthy.  2x solo cups = shut it down. 

 

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This is the most snow I've seen since I was a kid. I don't really mind it much but I definitely would prefer we didn't get it. I don't understand the people who appreciate the snow so much just because it looks 'pretty.' Tsunamis and tornados are pretty too, before they do their damage.

They're doing a horrible job of clearing and salting the roads where I live. I live in a small town outside Columbus but it's a compact, walkable and relatively well-off town so I don't understand it. I doubt there's a salt shortage. Also, almost nobody shovels their sidewalk. Even though it only takes a few minutes so I just walk in the street, despite people's opinions on it.

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We're forecasted to get ~12 inches of snow by next Thursday in central Ohio.  That is, if the forecasts actually hold true (they won't...right?).

Very Stable Genius

I trust weather forecasters like I trust Congresspeople, Qanon drops and and the salespeople at Mark Wahlberg Chevrolet. So yes, I imagine they will hold true. 

On 2/12/2021 at 5:13 PM, David said:

I trust weather forecasters like I trust Congresspeople, Qanon drops and and the salespeople at Mark Wahlberg Chevrolet. So yes, I imagine they will hold true. 

 

Well, this aged well. The much hyped SnowMageddon was mostly ice. Snow forecasts were off by 50+% in some places.

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Very Stable Genius

My nephew moved here from SC almost a month ago and hasn't been able to go to school since moving here because the two days a week he's supposed to go, there's always a snow emergency. He hasn't even been able to pick up his laptop yet to do any school work. It's getting a little ridiculous. He probably feels like he moved to Siberia. 

I can't believe TX is covered in snow. I thought it was funny that right after threatening to secede from the union like they do every other day, they asked for emergency federal aid for a snow storm. Everyone hates the federal government 'til a natural disaster strikes. 

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Seems like whenever there is more than a couple inches of snow they are shutting everything down.  Schools rarely closed when I was I kid.  I had to walk a mile each way, sometimes in snow up to my knees. 

 

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^me too.  Barefoot.  Uphill.  Both ways.😛

11 hours ago, David said:

I can't believe TX is covered in snow. I thought it was funny that right after threatening to secede from the union like they do every other day, they asked for emergency federal aid for a snow storm. Everyone hates the federal government 'til a natural disaster strikes. 

Just like the suburbs, the Southern States like to think that this isn't socialism or welfare when it benefits them. 

On 2/16/2021 at 9:17 AM, Htsguy said:

^me too.  Barefoot.  Uphill.  Both ways.😛


Kids these days don't know the struggle. This was my route to school every morning.
 

 

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Waterspout north of downtown over Lake Erie

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^ Not sure I ever realized how great Terminal Tower looks from that angle. 

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Ohio weather changed so much it's trending on twitter:

 

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i remember when i saw a kid i saw like five at once on lake erie.

Back in either '98 or '99, I was at Cedar Point and a pretty large spout developed right off the peninsula and moved right up to shore.  People were running and in general panic for a short time trying to find shelter.  Pretty memorable event.

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USA TODAY investigation reveals a stunning shift in the way rain falls in America

Nicole Carroll

USA TODAY

 

 

Think your area has had more rain than usual? You're probably right. 

 

Think your area has had less rain than usual? Again, you're probably right. 

 

For our climate change investigation out this week, called Downpour, USA TODAY reporters used 126 years of monthly data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to analyze average annual precipitation at 344 climate divisions. They used daily precipitation data from weather stations to measure the change in frequency of extreme rain events across the U.S. from 1951-2020.

 

"We were hearing a lot about extreme rainfall, stories of flooding, people with sewer backups, people flooded out of their homes, and we wanted to know, is this happening everywhere?," said Dinah Pulver, one of the project's lead reporters. "How many people, how many places, are contending with this kind of rainfall?

 

We found more than half of the nation's 344 climate divisions had their wettest periods on record since 2018. We calculated the same rolling averages for states. 

 

"East of the Rockies, more rain is falling, and it’s coming in more intense bursts," our report finds. "In the West, people are waiting longer to see any rain at all.

 

"Taken together, the reporting reveals a stunning shift in the way precipitation falls in America."

 

 

more:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/12/03/climate-change-warming-planet-slows-jet-stream-causing-downpours-drought/8829944002/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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These might have been challenged yesterday:

Source:  https://patch.com/ohio/cleveland/snowiest-day-record-day-cuyahoga-saw-most-snowfall

 

In Cuyahoga County, the biggest one-day snowfall was 17.4 inches, which fell on Nov. 10, 1913. In Ohio, the record for single-day snowfall goes to Trumbull County, when it snowed 30 inches on April 20, 1901.

Here's the single-day snowfall record for other Northeast Ohio counties:

Geauga County — 18.9 inches on Jan. 4, 2010

Lake County — 21 inches on Nov. 24, 1950

Lorain County — 16.5 inches on Nov. 24, 1950.

Summit County — 19.7 inches on April 4, 1987

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I'm sure we'll get nailed. NE Ohio rarely catches a break in these situations.

We just got a break this weekend. The nor'easter that hit the new england area missed us completely.

Typically nor'easters don't have much of an affect here. I believe it is mostly the east coast that gets hammered.

Betsy is telling us not to get caught up in the numbers, but the numbers are downright scary! 

 

 

Apparently they are now giving names to winter storms.  This one is called "Landon".  

2 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said:

Apparently they are now giving names to winter storms.  This one is called "Landon".  

The Weather Channel has been doing it for years. That is not coming from The National Weather Service. I hate the idea of it. 

 

I really really do not want the ice here. Not wanting to deal with another frozen glacier covering everything  like(IRC)Xmas 2004!!!

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The early 2003 Portsmouth ice storm was truly awful and lasted a week.

So will any of us get buried in snow or entombed in ice? I wish we were getting what Marysville is supposed to get-snow and not much ice.

63º and sunny in Cincy at the moment.

"It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton

43° and sunny in CLE at the moment.

43 minutes ago, Cygnus said:

63º and sunny in Cincy at the moment.

 

5 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said:

43° and sunny in CLE at the moment.

 

51° and sunny in C-BUS at the moment.  (Always in between CIN and CLE)

Once you get about this far out, I've found the maps I linked above to be pretty accurate most of the time.

 

The 48 hour forecast maps that will come out tomorrow are usually spot on.

 

 

 

 

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Worst of the storm will be west and north of here. Only about 8-12 inches of snow is forecast in Cleveland. A sizable storm to sure, but won't measure up to the last one, Jan. 17.

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

6 hours ago, Ram23 said:

Once you get about this far out, I've found the maps I linked above to be 

 

 

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If only the colors on the map matched the colors in the key. Going from south to north, 2", 4", olive green?, purple? Is that 18"?

11 hours ago, originaljbw said:

If only the colors on the map matched the colors in the key. Going from south to north, 2", 4", olive green?, purple? Is that 18"?

 

I think you're looking at the dark blue, which I just noticed is not really close at all to the blue in the key. That is the 6-8" range.  There is no purple, which would be 15-18.

 

What's confusing to me is that the square below 1" is transparent, so it shows whatever color it happens to be on top of.

 

 

^and oddly enough, the colors match better on my laptop compared to my phone. I have the nighttime blue light filter on my phone, so that's probably a factor.

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