December 31, 20186 yr Columbus just broke it's all time precipitation record from 2011 which was 54.96 inches. We are now over 55 inches for 2018. Hell if it is going to rain as much as it has this year we might as well just get the record(and with just 6 hours left in the years too). Edited December 31, 20186 yr by Toddguy
January 12, 20196 yr On 12/31/2018 at 6:25 PM, Toddguy said: Columbus just broke it's all time precipitation record from 2011 which was 54.96 inches. We are now over 55 inches for 2018. Hell if it is going to rain as much as it has this year we might as well just get the record(and with just 6 hours left in the years too). Cincinnati was also over 55 inches in 2018, third all-time. There are plenty of years in Cincinnati with near record rainfall amounts around 50-55 inches, however 2011 was a crazy outlier of over 73 inches: https://www.weather.gov/iln/Top10_Pcpn_2018
January 20, 20196 yr It wasn't a big deal. My diminutive Ford Focus is a monster in the snow: I don't get why there were so many cars struggling with this 2-3" snowfall. It's like we're back in 1985 with all of those rusted-out rear-wheel drive 1970's boats skidding all over the damn place. I'm having no trouble getting up to 35mph uphill in a vehicle that might be worth $4,000.
January 20, 20196 yr It's because cars have such wide tires these days. Anytime you get snow tires they recommend you buy a much narrower size and even smaller diameter wheels. 20s on a 9 inch wide wheel are not going to be good in the snow.
January 20, 20196 yr It's not the car/truck in most cases it is the tires. Based solely on how loud the mufflers were back when i lived by UC i bet the tires on most inexpensive student cars are as bald as i am. EDIT: I lived at the dead end part of Marshall at the crest of a hill and my winter entertainment was watching all the cars sliding in both directions. I remember a particularly bad ice storm where my brother and I went over to Straight St. and saw cars spin like tops the whole way down hitting parked cars left and right AFTER watching the car in front of them do the exact same thing. Edited January 20, 20196 yr by SleepyLeroy
January 20, 20196 yr 7 hours ago, jmecklenborg said: It wasn't a big deal. My diminutive Ford Focus is a monster in the snow: I don't get why there were so many cars struggling with this 2-3" snowfall. It's like we're back in 1985 with all of those rusted-out rear-wheel drive 1970's boats skidding all over the damn place. I'm having no trouble getting up to 35mph uphill in a vehicle that might be worth $4,000. You're having so little trouble you ran multiple red lights? Edited January 20, 20196 yr by DarkandStormy Very Stable Genius
January 20, 20196 yr Lighter is not better in the snow. Those 70s boats might have had trouble going straight but at least they could go. And the ground effects we have these days are a problem when it gets really deep like this. Today I'm seeing a lot of trucks getting stuck. Cars aren't even trying.
January 20, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, DarkandStormy said: You're having so little trouble you ran multiple red lights? The Beach Boys made me do it.
January 21, 20196 yr Northeast Ohio (+NW PA) official snowfall totals from the weekend's storm (24-hour and total snowfall).... https://nwschat.weather.gov/p.php?pid=201901201554-KCLE-NOUS41-PNSCLE Plus here's a few pictures from yesterday morning in Lakewood during our walk to breakfast.... Edited January 21, 20196 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 21, 20196 yr On 1/20/2019 at 4:30 AM, jmecklenborg said: It wasn't a big deal. My diminutive Ford Focus is a monster in the snow: I don't get why there were so many cars struggling with this 2-3" snowfall. It's like we're back in 1985 with all of those rusted-out rear-wheel drive 1970's boats skidding all over the damn place. I'm having no trouble getting up to 35mph uphill in a vehicle that might be worth $4,000. It's because all the folks in the hood are driving around on bald tires. Age/value of the car is meaningless. It's all about the tires. Edited January 21, 20196 yr by gottaplan
January 21, 20196 yr On 1/20/2019 at 11:42 AM, DarkandStormy said: You're having so little trouble you ran multiple red lights? COAST got red light cameras banned within the City of Cincinnati. So why not?
January 21, 20196 yr There is like nobody out in the snow, and you can see headlights on side streets more easily than during normal times. Re tires: I replaced my car's original tires in Aug 2018 with "touring" tires that cost about $650. The guy tried to get me to buy "performance" tires for about $750 that were similar to what was replaced, and he was correct. My car feels like it has more body roll than it did with the original tires. Lesson learned.
January 21, 20196 yr The touring tires have softer sidewalls than the "performance" ones which makes it feel like it has more body roll since the sidewalls are rolling over when you corner. On the other hand the touring tires are likely better in the snow.
January 22, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, GCrites80s said: The touring tires have softer sidewalls than the "performance" ones which makes it feel like it has more body roll since the sidewalls are rolling over when you corner. On the other hand the touring tires are likely better in the snow. This car has always been a beast in the snow...it's even better than the Honda it replaced, which did get stuck once or twice and I had to drive around with a shovel in the back. The hill assist and ABS is pretty incredible. The tires *never* spin while accelerating. If the thing won't steer, just lay off the gas, and it turns exactly how you would expect it to.
January 22, 20196 yr 8 hours ago, KJP said: Plus here's a few pictures from yesterday morning in Lakewood during our walk to breakfast.... cool photos.
January 30, 20196 yr Like something out of a heavy metal video.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 30, 20196 yr Correct me if im wrong but it has to pretty freaking cold to get ice formations like this (i forget the exact term for it). Moister from busted steam pipe on Superior in Cleveland, freezing and forming/accumulating ice structure on contact. Fyi this is pretty much in front of Masthead Brewery Edited January 30, 20196 yr by viscomi
February 12, 20196 yr https://www.sfgate.com/weather/article/Hawaii-recorded-what-may-be-the-lowest-elevation-13607099.php Hawaii getting hit with a large winter storm from the North. 191 MPH wind gusts recorded atop Maua Kea Edited February 12, 20196 yr by OldBearcat Formerly "Mr Sparkle"
February 25, 20196 yr I'll bet you didn't hear/read about this on US MSM..... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 28, 20196 yr No discussion of the Dayton tornadoes? 'Tornado Outbreak' Devastates Ohio Communities With Winds Up To 140 MPH Several tornadoes touched down in highly populated areas of Dayton and other Ohio communities late Monday night, causing catastrophic damage. The storms devastated dozens of buildings and trees. One death has been reported, officials said Tuesday morning. More below: https://www.npr.org/2019/05/28/727439670/multiple-tornadoes-touch-down-in-dayton-ohio-catastrophic-damage-reported “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
May 28, 20196 yr I woke up and only learned about the tornadoes from a post on Instagram. Looks like some neighborhoods/towns were really devastated. In one of the pics DeWine shared (the one of some exurban neighborhood with a pond) it looks like some houses were completely destroyed, while neighboring homes look basically untouched. Between this and the KKK rally, Dayton had a rough day yesterday.
May 28, 20196 yr I'm really worried about how this storm recovery in going to look... it has the potential to be Katrina-level bad. The worst of the tornadoes went from Brookville down through northern Trotwood, right past Salem Mall, over top of Hara Arena, down through north Main to the southern end of the Dixie strip and on out to the northern parts of old North Dayton to Page Manor and Beavercreek. Most of these areas were already in rough shape... Hara Arena was falling down, Salem Mall was dead before dead malls were a thing, and a number of lower-rent apartment communities got knocked out. Brookville and Beavercreek will be fine, but this particular storm seemed to do a great job at hitting the poorest parts of the Dayton area, which is poor to start with, honestly. People in these areas don't have good access to stores or anything really beyond where the RTA can go. They don't have much money, and many can't afford to lose a paycheck. The areas where the storms hit aren't the types of areas where people rebuild, the mentality is "cash in the insurance money and pull out" for those that own property and have insurance. If Hara wasn't insured, I doubt anyone will rush to demolish it unless they are absolutely forced to do it, and even then it'll be a big legal battle. No one is going to want to pay those demolition fees, and whoever owns it now likely does not care if it continues to rot in that spot since they didn't care to demolish it earlier. The apartments are a worry too. The Rivers Edge apartments seemed to be a real success, the owners came in and fixed up a number of buildings that were abandoned for years, creating over 500 nice, livable apartment units. They did a real service to the area and region by fixing those up a couple of years ago. Now every single building there is decimated... I don't know if they will be willing to rebuild. To me it seems like these tornadoes are only going to make things worse in a part of town that really needs a lot of help and reinvestment.
May 28, 20196 yr The silver lining (if you can really call it that) is that the Miami Valley has such a glut of cheap houses that many of those affected may be able to move on and rebuild their lives quicker than when a disaster strikes in a more isolated location like Paradise or any number of tiny Kansas towns that get wiped off the map every few years. Hopefully folks are able to get new roofs over their heads fairly quickly and aren’t stuck living in FEMA trailers for a year or more. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
May 28, 20196 yr It was an amazingly pleasant evening in Cincinnati. It's hard to believe that the worst tornados in decades were doing their thing 50 miles north while we had a starry night.
May 28, 20196 yr Hell, I live four miles from the path of destruction and I didn’t even lose a shingle on my house. Lots of lightning and some mildly strong winds, but nothing otherwise out of the ordinary. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
May 29, 20196 yr 4 hours ago, SWOH said: I'm really worried about how this storm recovery in going to look... it has the potential to be Katrina-level bad. The worst of the tornadoes went from Brookville down through northern Trotwood, right past Salem Mall, over top of Hara Arena, down through north Main to the southern end of the Dixie strip and on out to the northern parts of old North Dayton to Page Manor and Beavercreek. Most of these areas were already in rough shape... Hara Arena was falling down, Salem Mall was dead before dead malls were a thing, and a number of lower-rent apartment communities got knocked out. Brookville and Beavercreek will be fine, but this particular storm seemed to do a great job at hitting the poorest parts of the Dayton area, which is poor to start with, honestly. People in these areas don't have good access to stores or anything really beyond where the RTA can go. They don't have much money, and many can't afford to lose a paycheck. The areas where the storms hit aren't the types of areas where people rebuild, the mentality is "cash in the insurance money and pull out" for those that own property and have insurance. If Hara wasn't insured, I doubt anyone will rush to demolish it unless they are absolutely forced to do it, and even then it'll be a big legal battle. No one is going to want to pay those demolition fees, and whoever owns it now likely does not care if it continues to rot in that spot since they didn't care to demolish it earlier. The apartments are a worry too. The Rivers Edge apartments seemed to be a real success, the owners came in and fixed up a number of buildings that were abandoned for years, creating over 500 nice, livable apartment units. They did a real service to the area and region by fixing those up a couple of years ago. Now every single building there is decimated... I don't know if they will be willing to rebuild. To me it seems like these tornadoes are only going to make things worse in a part of town that really needs a lot of help and reinvestment. I get the sentiment, but over 1,800 people died in Katrina. The resulting property damage and subsequent disinvestment might very well prove to be an epic catastrophe, but I think people forgot how utterly terrible and unprecedented Katrina was. It seems like tornadoes often hit poor and rural towns, so there should be some models out there for how these towns in Ohio can recover. Joplin, MO and any number of small towns that have been devastated in Oklahoma aren't exactly economically booming...This event might cause some reshuffling within metro Dayton, but I doubt it will have THAT big of an effect. Hopefully insurance and state/federal assistance will help take care of the bulk of repairs, but we all know how that can go. Regardless, hoping for the best for Dayton and its surrounding communities affected by this disaster.
May 29, 20196 yr 23 hours ago, BigDipper 80 said: The silver lining (if you can really call it that) is that the Miami Valley has such a glut of cheap houses that many of those affected may be able to move on and rebuild their lives quicker than when a disaster strikes in a more isolated location like Paradise or any number of tiny Kansas towns that get wiped off the map every few years. Hopefully folks are able to get new roofs over their heads fairly quickly and aren’t stuck living in FEMA trailers for a year or more. True, there definitely is not a housing shortage here, plenty of places to go. What it seems likely to do though is accelerate the exodus out of Trotwood, Northridge, and the like... can't see anybody living in Moss Creek with catastrophic damage rebuilding, for instance. It may sound harsh, but a lot of the people in Moss Creek that had $400k houses sitting on the market for $300k less than what it cost to build them in 1999 dollars were probably praying for something like this to happen so they could get out from under it with a full recoup of their investment (assuming they insured the house at its full build value). They got the short end of the stick there, not only because the community was never more than ~5% built out but also because the golf course ceased operation last year. What would be great is if the exodus went to places that may be at the beginning stages of redevelopment like Five Oaks instead of further out into Dayton suburbia, or other metros, or even other states. Either way it'll be interesting to see how this shakes out.
May 29, 20196 yr 22 hours ago, edale said: I get the sentiment, but over 1,800 people died in Katrina. The resulting property damage and subsequent disinvestment might very well prove to be an epic catastrophe, but I think people forgot how utterly terrible and unprecedented Katrina was. It seems like tornadoes often hit poor and rural towns, so there should be some models out there for how these towns in Ohio can recover. Joplin, MO and any number of small towns that have been devastated in Oklahoma aren't exactly economically booming...This event might cause some reshuffling within metro Dayton, but I doubt it will have THAT big of an effect. Hopefully insurance and state/federal assistance will help take care of the bulk of repairs, but we all know how that can go. Regardless, hoping for the best for Dayton and its surrounding communities affected by this disaster. Agreed, Puerto Rico on a smaller scale would be a more apt comparison. The damage is still very severe and very real though. What concerns me is the fact that there's so many good, easy options for relocation nearby. In a sense that is great, but what is going to keep someone in Trotwood when they have cash instead of their house and a decent market of houses nearby from which to choose in communities with better schools, better infrastructure, walkability, access to amenities, etc.? Nothing. Trotwood is a suburban food desert. So even if the homeowners leave, what I'm hoping is that they are at least required to demolish their houses and prepare the demo site for re-use properly so there isn't a jumbled, dangerous mess left behind. No more Salem Mall site repeats.
May 30, 20196 yr I think they must have shown Moss Creek on the Columbus news... it was in bad shape from the storm damage. I was thinking "That's in Trotwood?" It didn't look like the rest of town. The houses were very large with big lots. So properties there were worth much less than they looked? They definitely looked like they were $400K+.
May 30, 20196 yr ^That is correct. and it’s not really justifiable either... the development is in Northmont Schools, has good highway access, and is well built for suburbia at least. The quality of homes built there is good. But people are afraid of the Trotwood address and Trotwood city services. It would take me a while to dig up the news trail, but if I remember correctly Moss Creek was built in the late 1990s because the owner of the farm on that site (last name is Oakes?) wrote in his will that the property was to be turned into a golf course. The owner was also wealthy, and had the money to commission Chi Chi Rodriguez to design the course. This is a stretch of my memory so all of this may be incorrect but I could swear the way he seeded the property the city of Trotwood was responsible for actually constructing the community. For instance, there’s no way this house only cost $365k to build: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/7271-Wentworth-Way-Clayton-OH-45315/34981982_zpid/ It sold for $545k back in 2008, and at this point the development had already stalled out. The lot sold for $80k.
May 30, 20196 yr Why no tornado sirens? Dayton officials respond. Some residents have asked Dayton leaders why they didn’t hear emergency warning sirens during Monday’s tornadoes. The answer is simple: Dayton doesn’t have them. About 20 years ago, Dayton decided to unplug its warning siren system on the grounds the it was too expensive to operate. Cont "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
May 30, 20196 yr ^ Interesting that with no sirens, people were still all able to seek shelter and no on was killed. I think cell phone alerts have rendered sirens borderline obsolete. I'd wager that at almost all times, there are more people indoors or in a loud area out of earshot of sirens, than there are people away from the vicinity of a cell phone.
May 30, 20196 yr For the initial hit they may suffice, but in two hours most modern phones are going to be dead without electricity, the network and wi-fi to keep the batteries from shooting directly to zero. Then it might as well be 1974.
June 10, 20196 yr https://fox8.com/2019/06/10/did-you-feel-that-usgs-confirms-magnitude-4-0-earthquake-near-eastlake/ LIVE: Did you feel that? USGS confirms magnitude 4.0 earthquake near Eastlake The USGS reports a magnitude 4.0 earthquake centered in Eastlake shook the area before 11 a.m. Monday. Reports from people around Northeast Ohio, including Lake County, Euclid and Mentor reported they felt a building shake.
June 10, 20196 yr I felt it real nice in Shaker. Walls were rattling and i looked outside and birdfeeder and hanging plants were swaying
June 10, 20196 yr Felt in Euclid. Pretty strong rumble that made the old building I'm in make some very odd noises. My first thought was that the old AC unit on the roof was failing, but that didn't explain the rumble in my feet. Only lasted a few seconds though.
June 10, 20196 yr Here is the current USGS Shakemap and "Did you feel it" map. Looks like it was felt pretty far and wide
June 10, 20196 yr 39 minutes ago, musky said: https://fox8.com/2019/06/10/did-you-feel-that-usgs-confirms-magnitude-4-0-earthquake-near-eastlake/ LIVE: Did you feel that? USGS confirms magnitude 4.0 earthquake near Eastlake The USGS reports a magnitude 4.0 earthquake centered in Eastlake shook the area before 11 a.m. Monday. Reports from people around Northeast Ohio, including Lake County, Euclid and Mentor reported they felt a building shake. Felt it in Mayfield Heights. It was faint, but enough that I assumed it was a small earthquake. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
June 10, 20196 yr Felt nothing at all in Mentor. This is a pretty sturdy building with a lot of heavy equipment in it, though. Just e-mailed our Willoughby plant to see if they did. I was flying to Chicago for the 1986 one.
June 10, 20196 yr I can't believe some of the ridiculous videos already on youtube about this. One shows a street scene in what might be Mexico with a building collapsing. Anyway, it was felt in Painesville, and judging by the comments, by many in Mentor (except of ERocc ?) http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
June 14, 20196 yr Because we're so desperate for rain!!! ? ***FLASH FLOOD WATCH*** A flash flood watch is in effect for our entire area Saturday afternoon through Monday night. Rainfall amounts of 2-3 inches with locally higher amounts of 4-6 inches are possible as several rounds of rain move across the region. Edited June 14, 20196 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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