Posted February 20, 201015 yr I'd been taking photos here and there as weather permitted, but recently we had some obscenely gorgeous (but chilly) days so I managed to get enough together for another set. Hope you enjoy - as usual, here are some tunes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ulVVeF0JNI View of downtown from Abbey Avenue: View from Superior Avenue: AT&T Huron Road building and Quicken Loans Arena: Norfolk Southern Cuyahoga River Bridge as viewed from I-90: St. Michael the Archangel Church: Upper level of Lincoln Park Baths townhome in Tremont: Layers: Downtown and the former 3rd District police station on the right: View of downtown from Lakeview Cemetery: Detail view of the Haserot Memorial in Lakeview Cemetery: Shafran Planetarium at Cleveland Museum of Natural History in University Circle: Workers at the Ireland Cancer Center at University Hospitals: Case Western Reserve University: East 8th Street: Cleveland Trust Rotunda building and Tower: Restoration work on 668 Euclid: May Company Building and Terminal Tower: East 4th Street: 200 Public Square: View of downtown and Red Line bridge from Franklin Avenue: West Side Market shoppers: Literary Road: The Western Reserve Fire Museum http://www.wrfmc.com/Fire_Museum/Architecture.html Apartments along East Boulevard: New townhomes in Glenville - partially financed by LeBron James: Rodin sculpture at the Cleveland Museum of Art: Fabergé egg at Cleveland Museum of Art: Construction at the Cleveland Museum of Art: Lobby of the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland: "Turning Point" sculpture by Philip Johnson in the foreground; Weatherhead School designed by Frank Gehry in the background: East 9th Street: Huron Square Apartments: Patterns on Lakeside: Superior Avenue: St. Andrew Kim Korean Catholic Church in Tremont: Downtown from Parafine Avenue: clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 20, 201015 yr Wow there are condos being built at E 102 and Superior! Is this apart of the Circel Plus movement?
February 20, 201015 yr Cle-lund. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 20, 201015 yr Wow there are condos being built at E 102 and Superior! Is this apart of the Circel Plus movement? http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/james_townhomes_060621.html clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 20, 201015 yr Mayday saw the forecast and hit the streets with a vengeance. LEGIT as usual. How is the sales progressing for that E 102/Superior development? $260k for 2,000 sqft on those cross streets?
February 20, 201015 yr Hi all, Great pictures as usually MayDay. I for one don't see any misery in these pictures. I do see a lot of sweet sweet sweet. No mater what time of year Cleveland is one of those beautiful gems. Warm nuzzles and bear hugz to all. Jim S.
February 20, 201015 yr Fabulous! I wanna go to Cleveland some time this year. West Side Market looks really cool. Seems like they have a big selection too.
February 20, 201015 yr Awesome photography of some awesome architecture, angles and sightlines. What's the new biz on the left side of alley (isn't this East 8th)? This could be a great alley, perhaps a more intimate variation of East Fourth -- if they filled in the damn parking lot where the Hippodrome used to be... OK. Trivia time for the photo below. This brief level spot on Literary Street hill, before it descends a bit more to West 3rd, was where one of Cleveland's oldest railroad lines crossed (it was chartered in 1848 and built in 1856). Can anyone tell me what Cleveland-based companies (pre- and post-merger) owned this rail line and where the rail line went? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 21, 201015 yr What's the new biz on the left side of alley (isn't this East 8th)? The sign on the building was for Machu Pichu, which closed over a year ago. A new sports bar was going to open there during the end of summer. I received some flyers for the place while walking around downtown but I never actually saw the place open. I cant remember the guy's name, but it was going to be called "(insert name) Hideaway". Everytime I walk down 8th the place is closed, and the paper on the bottom halfs of the windows block any view inside.
February 21, 201015 yr A large "For Sale- Development Opportunity" sign is now displayed on the Euclid Ave parking lot, also.
February 21, 201015 yr "Can anyone tell me what Cleveland-based companies (pre- and post-merger) owned this rail line and where the rail line went?" Something tells me that Rockefeller/Standard Oil was involved - beyond that, I'm clueless. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 21, 201015 yr ^LRMR Development (same initials as his/buddies marketing firm) are partial backer$ of the project. I just love that Literary Road pic. @KJP+Mayday, if it is indeed John D. and Standard Oil... maybe it goes to Western PA where Standard Oil had their first oil fields... transportation to the refineries on the Cuyahoga, though I would have thought they would be on different more directly East bound right-of-ways...other guesses would be (cheated, google: February 25, 1848, incorporating the Bellefontaine and Indiana Railroad Company (of Ohio)-March 14, 1856, agreement for joint operation between Indianapolis, Pittsburg and Cleveland and the Bellefontaine and Indiana Railroad Companies.)
February 21, 201015 yr Nope. But you're getting warm. I'll give you a hint. The tracks visible on the other side of the valley combined with the mystery rail line farther east to host Ohio's last commuter train. Dozens of employees of the company that owned/operated the train rode it each weekday to/from work at their company's headquarters in Terminal Tower. But the portion of the line visible in the foreground was freight-only after 1949 when the mystery railroad moved all its passenger trains to Cleveland Union Terminal from the old depot that later served as Diamond Jim's and Shorty's. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 21, 201015 yr Beautiful shots. Great angles/views! Love the 200 PS, such a tight shot. At first glance I thought it was the CCF Pyramid. I don't have anything to add to the train mystery. But it's all very interesting, next time I'm on that hill I'll have to check it out. The townhomes on Superior is an effort by the city of Cleveland, Glenville Development Corporation, Lebron James and banking/development entities. They sit just about at the edge of Rockefeller Park.
February 21, 201015 yr wow for some reason i could not tell that that picture was of 200 Public Square
February 21, 201015 yr Erie Lackawanna Railway was what it became after 1949? Going belly-up in 1976? According to the article it went all the way to Youngstown to turn around... wow! But that doesn't answer the question of the rail-line that was freight only... Link for those interested: http://web.presby.edu/~jtbell/transit/Cleveland/EL/
February 21, 201015 yr The sign on the building was for Machu Pichu, which closed over a year ago. A new sports bar was going to open there during the end of summer. I received some flyers for the place while walking around downtown but I never actually saw the place open. I cant remember the guy's name, but it was going to be called "(insert name) Hideaway". Everytime I walk down 8th the place is closed, and the paper on the bottom halfs of the windows block any view inside. It was called Johnny's Hideaway. I went in 1 time this past June(?). There was just a bar only, I believe they told me that food service would come later. They sure didn't last long...I also saw the paper up on the windows today. Usually that means renovations, etc. Maybe something else is coming or the Johnny's Hideaway folks are changing their concept, or look. A large "For Sale- Development Opportunity" sign is now displayed on the Euclid Ave parking lot, also. I also saw this today. That's a great step in the right direction. Get this sizable gap filled on Euclid. It is for only the surface parking portion of the former Hipp site (the garage that accesses off Prospect--a huge moneymaker I'm sure--is not available).
February 21, 201015 yr ^I'll take a few parking garages over a few dozen parking lots any day, especially if they have 1st floor retail. :-) clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 22, 201015 yr Erie Lackawanna Railway was what it became after 1949? Going belly-up in 1976? According to the article it went all the way to Youngstown to turn around... wow! But that doesn't answer the question of the rail-line that was freight only... Link for those interested: http://web.presby.edu/~jtbell/transit/Cleveland/EL/ You named the railroad company. Congrats, FerrariEnzo!! It was built by the Cleveland & Mahoning Railroad Company of Cleveland in 1856 to link the coalfields of Warren and Youngstown to the port of Cleveland for shipment worldwide. Later in the century, the flow worked in reverse as iron ore from the Mesabi Range in Minnesota came to Cleveland and was offloaded onto the railroad to the steel mills of Warren and Youngstown. The rail line was leased in 1883 and later acquired outright by the Erie Railroad of New York City. But when the Van Swerigen brothers bought the Erie (and other railroads), they relocated their corporate headquarters to Cleveland in the 1920s. While the Erie's offices were moved to Terminal Tower, their passenger trains didn't yet. Instead they partially followed the route of their iron ore trains out of the Flats past the location MayDay photographed. The Erie continued to serve their depot at the foot of old Superior Avenue until 1949 when they relocated their 12 daily passenger trains to Cleveland Union Terminal (beneath what was then onerously called Cleveland Union Terminal Tower!). Most of the Erie's passenger trains traveled to Youngstown and Pittsburgh, but one daily round trip went overnight to New York (Hoboken NJ) via Binghamton NY. Their trains also had through coaches and sleepers that switched to/from other railroads' trains from/to Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC and Philadelphia, among other cities. In 1960, after the Erie suffered worsening losses due to competition from new highways and now the new St. Lawrence Seaway, it merged with the Delaware, Lackawanna & Western Railroad to form Erie-Lackawanna RR. E-L kept their headquarters in Terminal Tower until 1976 when it merged with six other bankrupt railroads into Consolidated Rail Corp. (Conrail), which was created by the federal government (then sold to investors via the largest stock offering in U.S. history in 1986). As the steel industry in Warren, Youngstown, Sharon, Alliquippa and Pittsburgh faded from existence, so did the 20 or so daily ore trains that passed the location MayDay photographed. In 1982, Conrail ripped out the tracks to the old Erie RR ore docks on the south side of the old river channel (southern boundary of Whiskey Island) which also had Hulett unloaders. This section of the old Erie Railroad right of way, which once saw up to 40 daily freight and passenger trains, will likely be the new route for the Towpath Trail. But I thought you might like to know a little bit about its history. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 22, 201015 yr They are all good: composition, exposure, sharpness, etc. Some are simply stunning. I learn something from everyone of your photo threads. You challenge the photographer in all of us.
February 22, 201015 yr Erie Lackawanna Railway was what it became after 1949? Going belly-up in 1976? According to the article it went all the way to Youngstown to turn around... wow! But that doesn't answer the question of the rail-line that was freight only... Link for those interested: http://web.presby.edu/~jtbell/transit/Cleveland/EL/ You named the railroad company. Congrats, FerrariEnzo!! It was built by the Cleveland & Mahoning Railroad Company of Cleveland in 1856 to link the coalfields of Warren and Youngstown to the port of Cleveland for shipment worldwide. Later in the century, the flow worked in reverse as iron ore from the Mesabi Range in Minnesota came to Cleveland and was offloaded onto the railroad to the steel mills of Warren and Youngstown. The rail line was leased in 1883 and later acquired outright by the Erie Railroad of New York City. But when the Van Swerigen brothers bought the Erie (and other railroads), they relocated their corporate headquarters to Cleveland in the 1920s. While the Erie's offices were moved to Terminal Tower, their passenger trains didn't yet. Instead they partially followed the route of their iron ore trains out of the Flats past the location MayDay photographed. The Erie continued to serve their depot at the foot of old Superior Avenue until 1949 when they relocated their 12 daily passenger trains to Cleveland Union Terminal (beneath what was then onerously called Cleveland Union Terminal Tower!). Most of the Erie's passenger trains traveled to Youngstown and Pittsburgh, but one daily round trip went overnight to New York (Hoboken NJ) via Binghamton NY. Their trains also had through coaches and sleepers that switched to/from other railroads' trains from/to Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC and Philadelphia, among other cities. In 1960, after the Erie suffered worsening losses due to competition from new highways and now the new St. Lawrence Seaway, it merged with the Delaware, Lackawanna & Western Railroad to form Erie-Lackawanna RR. E-L kept their headquarters in Terminal Tower until 1976 when it merged with six other bankrupt railroads into Consolidated Rail Corp. (Conrail), which was created by the federal government (then sold to investors via the largest stock offering in U.S. history in 1986). As the steel industry in Warren, Youngstown, Sharon, Alliquippa and Pittsburgh faded from existence, so did the 20 or so daily ore trains that passed the location MayDay photographed. In 1982, Conrail ripped out the tracks to the old Erie RR ore docks on the south side of the old river channel (southern boundary of Whiskey Island) which also had Hulett unloaders. This section of the old Erie Railroad right of way, which once saw up to 40 daily freight and passenger trains, will likely be the new route for the Towpath Trail. But I thought you might like to know a little bit about its history. The wealth of historical industrial and passenger rail knowlege you possess always amazes me KJP. https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
February 22, 201015 yr Great pictures, I really like the May Co/TT shot and the bridge with the sunset. -Is Pats in the Flats open?
February 22, 201015 yr The wealth of historical industrial and passenger rail knowlege you possess always amazes me KJP. Thanks! Sometimes I worry that no one cares or that all this history will be lost to time. But it fascinates me that just a little bump on Literary Street can hold so much history. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 23, 201015 yr Thanks everyone, I'm glad you've enjoyed them :-) Where is this? That's the Korean Catholic church in Tremont. More specifically on West 14th Street, north of Kenilworth. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
March 7, 201015 yr Excellent composition on all of these. Like someone said above, you challenge the photographer in all of us. I need to get to work. ;)
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