July 21, 201014 yr I'm thrilled when I can go three hours without waking up! Yeah, me too, and my baby is 14 months old. You get used to it. Remember, the upcoming first 3 months are the hardest, and then you get used to a lot of it. They're just helpless blobs needing constant attention the first 3 months. Keep us posted, both of you!
July 21, 201014 yr I'm so glad men dont have to go thru birth. I dont think I could handle labor pains.
July 21, 201014 yr I'm thrilled when I can go three hours without waking up! Yeah, me too, and my baby is 14 months old. You get used to it. Remember, the upcoming first 3 months are the hardest, and then you get used to a lot of it. They're just helpless blobs needing constant attention the first 3 months. Keep us posted, both of you! bfwissel was joking about setting an alarm (or a recording of a baby crying) to go off every 2-3 hours to get used to having to wake up so often. I told him that he doesn't have to because I already am waking up that often. ;-)
July 21, 201014 yr You really can't "get ready for it" in any way, and there's certainly no reason to practice being sleep deprived, it's not like you get used to being sleepy and then you aren't sleepy anymore. And I don't know how it will go for you, but that whole bullshit about "sleep when the baby sleeps" never worked for me. He would sleep for like 10 minutes at a time those first several weeks. Just long enough for you to GET to sleep, but not be completely asleep. Honestly, it was easier to just try hard to stay awake than to try to sleep in 10 minutes and then get woken back up again, and then to hand off to DH for a block of time so you could sleep a little bit once he was home.
July 21, 201014 yr I didn't have to go through labor pains to have my kid! LOL Well if I was a woman I would have a surrogate. I'm not messing up my body for a kid! No way. No how! Just the thought of pushing something the size of a watermelon out of an opening the size of a grapefruit scares the begeezus out of me.
July 21, 201014 yr Is that scarier than being gutted like a deer to get it out? :) I retained all that down there since I had a C, thank God. And I only gained 20 pounds with the baby, which I lost almost all of while I was in the hospital. Other than being a little more stretchy than I used to be, I don't think I look all that much different. Not bad for giving birth at 40.
July 22, 201014 yr All I can say is it gets better. Mine are 9 and 5 now, and this is a golden age. They are lovely but can also get themselves dressed and do some chores.
July 22, 201014 yr All I can say is it gets better. Mine are 9 and 5 now, and this is a golden age. They are lovely but can also get themselves dressed and do some chores. Between 9-18 you're an indentured servant.
July 22, 201014 yr The closest experience that compares to living with a new born would be the last week of the quarter/semster and finals week in college. You are a walking zombie because you are sleep deprived and working your ass off. How ever that ends and you get to go home or on spring/winter break. With a newborn you just get to sleep for 6 hours straight if you are lucky. My kids slept through the night last but damn dogs woke me up last night at 4:15 to go out. If it's not one thing its another.
July 22, 201014 yr It is kind of like that, except it's like finals week for 3 months straight. Remember, put your oxygen mask on first before helping others. No baby ever died from crying, and it's important to keep yourself hydrated and well fed since you can't count on getting a lot of rest, so that you can properly take care of the baby. Eat a LOT. Drink 3x whatever you think a LOT is.
July 22, 201014 yr Drink 3x whatever you think a LOT is. :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: I am not sure that's the context that you meant it, but that certainly is good advice for parenting.
July 22, 201014 yr My wife is due in two months. Our first. Thanks for scaring me all over again. :-D
July 22, 201014 yr :) Don't be scared. It's just as hard as everyone tells you, but I was pleased to find out it's also a LOT better, nicer, more fun and more rewarding than anyone told me. People only tell you about the bad stuff.
July 22, 201014 yr Yeah it's great to have somebody in awe of your average nothing special abilities. Here's some advice to remember, that baby carrier is your friend. Don't be afraid to take the baby out to eat and go places while you can. It gets harder when they are mobile or their are multiple children. Mine are 8,6 and 4 so resturants are finally OK as long as they don't take too long, but buffets are more work for us then they are worth. You end up not sitting down they whole time. Enjoy it. they grow up fast.
July 22, 201014 yr I second the thought that you should enjoy the time when they are not mobile. While it is fun to run around and play with them, or ride bikes, or go to the park, or whatever, it is not fun to do so for hours upon hours with little to no rest. I look at infants now and think back to the good ole days when they would sleep half the day and eat and poop the other half.
July 22, 201014 yr I have found there is never the perfect "easy" stage. Every age has its ups and downs. To me, the hardest has always been the 2 to 3 YO when they tend to whine about everything, and for some reason they want everything that the other kids have. In the event you only have one child however, you never have to deal with much of that.
July 22, 201014 yr I have found there is never the perfect "easy" stage. Every age has its ups and downs. To me, the hardest has always been the 2 to 3 YO when they tend to whine about everything, and for some reason they want everything that the other kids have. In the event you only have one child however, you never have to deal with much of that. I think 4/5 is the worst. My niece is 4 years younger than her older brother and they are tight! Everything he wants/does...she wants/does. My youngest nephew was a recording device. when he was four, everything that comes out of my brothers mouth, he repeated. At that age, they are little copy cats.
July 22, 201014 yr Baby number two was just born this morning, so this thread is a nice refresher on the fun I'll be having the next few months.
July 22, 201014 yr Baby number two was just born this morning, so this thread is a nice refresher on the fun I'll be having the next few months. Congratulations! Even a baby couldn't keep you from UO. So where are the pics of your latest tax deduction?
July 22, 201014 yr Thanks. This one surprised us about two weeks early and caught us on a camping trip to Mohican State park. So we are stuck in Ashland for the rest of the weekend...best laid plans. At least we made it to the hospital. Barely. Oh well, mom and baby are healthy and beautiful!
July 22, 201014 yr Thanks. This one surprised us about two weeks early and caught us on a camping trip to Mohican State park. So we are stuck in Ashland for the rest of the weekend...best laid plans. At least we made it to the hospital. Barely. Oh well, mom and baby are healthy and beautiful! Aww, what a great story!
July 22, 201014 yr You were brave going camping 2 weeks before the due date :) My Mom was born in Ashland, so baby is in great company :)
July 23, 201014 yr Why are parents so damn hardheaded?! I'm an adult and it really pisses me off when my parents don't do what they are suppose to do! They are worse than 8 year olds. My mom , just had a minor surgery on calf, and she's not suppose to wear any pumps. Why is she at Beachwood trying on pumps? The reason she had the surgery is because she only wears pumps! Ugh! I swear I'm sending them to Shady Pines Retirement home!
July 24, 201014 yr I need some advice about teenagers I tried to think about my life at 17/18. Since my nephew has been here, he's been "experiencing" summer love. Earlier, the doorbell rings and I looked at the camera and didn't see anyone. I thought this person had the wrong house. 10 minutes, the bell rings again, but I dont see anyone. I go back out to the yard for 20 min, on the way back in, I hear someone banging on the window. I look out and there is a young lady banging on the window. I ask, "Is there a problem?" and close put the curtain back. I go out and this child says to me, "I've been ringing the bell for 20 minutes it's about time you answered" At that exact moment I wanted to "snatch" her ass up! I held it together and asked, "Oh, you go the wrong one!" and go back inside. Two minutes later, this heifer rings the bell upstairs. Now I have to walk upstairs and unlock the doors. I open the door and she rolls her eyes and sucks her teeth. So I ask, "What is it? What do you want?" She says (in her stank ass PR attitude), "Don't be getting no attitude, I'm grown and nobody talks to me like that. Look is (my nephew) here??". Set me right off. Me: "First, you need to check your attitude while on my property" Her: "This your whole house? I thought it was an apartments." Me: "Little girl get the hell off of my steps and property" Her: "I told you I'm grown, I'm 20" I just slam the door in her face. I go upstairs to my nephews room to wake him up because not answering the intercom. I look at his phone there are 57 messages from this chic. Now the phone rings with her calling. I tell him to go talk to her right now. I know it's every teenage boys fantasy to date an older woman, but I told him to stay away from Locas. So I ask him why is a 20 year old woman with an attitude is outside, unannounced? I just met her when she was coming from the park the other day and we just started talking. I say, "You're 17 and she is 20" What's that all about? Are you having sex?" He says no. Although when he was on the steps I heard her say she thought he was 19. I don't know what to do or say. Do I tell him to slow his roll as this is the sixth girl he's "hung out" with since he's been here? In addition, a 17 year old boy and 20 year old woman are in two different places in life. My nephew needs to have "the talk" about sex, but I don't want to overstep my brothers boundaries. My nephew and I have had discussions in the past but I know they haven't had the talk and that needs to happen IMMEDIATELY. I'm torn because the kids and I have always had our secrets away from their parents. Whenever he doesn't want to tell his father something he'll tell me and I don't want to sacrifice that trust and at the same time I don't want to do something I feel should be between father and son. If he wants to have a more in-depth convo with me after, which will most likely happen, I'm all ears. But I need to get both of them to talk about this without it being obvious. My nephew has really come out of his shell over the last 18 months and I dont want him to revert. The reason I have concerns is he wants to go off to college in NYC or LA (this is new one ::) ). As I said to him, "How do you expect your father and I to trust you to handle your business or take care of the house in LA if you have woman coming to the crib looking for you. You're almost 18, it's time to man up. Welcome to the real world." I think I hit a nerve, because he just started his chores and hasn't come up to my room for our normal morning talk. :|
July 26, 201014 yr Yikes. good luck with that. Thankfully I'm about a decade away from dealing with these issues. I've told my wife that our daughters will be the world's first Jewish nuns. 'Yes sweety, you're marrying Jesus, but just remember to tell him that if he lays a hand on you I'm going to bust his kneecaps just like any of the other little boys that come calling.' My only thought as a parent, is that I'd give your brother the right of first refusal. Just tell him that you're seeing the kid getting all wild eyed, and you want to lay down a preemptive strike. You don't need to go into specifics. But it is his son, and so he should at least be in the loop. I'm presuming that your talk is more centered on the responsibilities of sex, vs the mechanics (which I'm guessing he's figured out quite some time ago...)
July 26, 201014 yr I have to play devil's advocate here, sorry. First of all, I don't understand why you didn't answer the door if someone was ringing the bell repeatedly. How is that this chick's fault? And then by the time you opened it, you had major attitude? Maybe she didn't see there was a camera, or wasn't standing right in front of it so you could see. But pulling the curtain aside and seeing someone there and then just ignoring it, that seems rude to me. Sorry, but you know I call it like I see it. It sounds like you were the one with the attitude from the get-go. It's also really not your business to be looking at his phone and seeing how many times she called him. This sounds like it's his business to deal with and if you want him to act like an adult, you need to set an example and act like one as well. If you want him to trust you and talk to you about what's going on, you don't treat his visitors this way and go around looking at his phone behind his back. 17 and 20 is not some huge deal, it's not like she's 40 or something, I think you are completely overreacting. Honestly, I would back off if you want him to come to you. You're free to lay down ground rules about visitors and what's appropriate when he is staying in your home, and that he should instruct his guests on proper visiting etiquette as well, but he is almost 18 and likely wants to be treated like an adult, not someone for you to boss around, or whose visitors you can boss around either. If I were you, I'd leave a box of condoms in a plain bag in his room with a note saying something like, "I know you're old enough and smart enough to make safe choices if you are becoming sexually active, but here's a little reminder just in case. Let me know if there's anything you want to talk about. All I care about is you being safe and protected while enjoying your summer."
July 26, 201014 yr LOL, sounds like there was attitude in abundance on both sides of the aisle. I need a webcam set up around MTS' neck so I can see all the crazyness for myself. Puta's banging on doors, lovers fighting on the street. Booty calls from random exes, and office intrigue galore! Your life is like a bad 80's serial drama. Call your brother up, tell him some cougar is prowling around your door at all hours of the morning and you fear for your nephew's immortal soul (NYC being the den of iniquity that we all know that it is). Then make your priest/pastor/rabbi/sensei sit down with your nepehew and ask really probing, detailed questions, so that he's so mortified, he won't even look at a female again until he's 25.
July 26, 201014 yr Yeah, mellow out a bit. I'm not sure what you expected her reaction to be you greet her that way. And assuming it wasn't an innapropriate time of day, I don't see what the issue is with ringing someone's doorbell. That's pretty much how I interacted with any of my friends growing up...go to their house and ring the doorbell. The quickest way for him to revert back into his shell is to maintain the "my way or the highway" style of parenting. Anyway, I was 16 dating an 18 year old (and 18 when she was 20 when we broke up) and that age difference isn't bad at all. It's actually the greatest thing ever if she a little more, um, advanced than the girls in your grade ;)
July 26, 201014 yr Yikes. good luck with that. Thankfully I'm about a decade away from dealing with these issues. I've told my wife that our daughters will be the world's first Jewish nuns. 'Yes sweety, you're marrying Jesus, but just remember to tell him that if he lays a hand on you I'm going to bust his kneecaps just like any of the other little boys that come calling.' My only thought as a parent, is that I'd give your brother the right of first refusal. Just tell him that you're seeing the kid getting all wild eyed, and you want to lay down a preemptive strike. You don't need to go into specifics. But it is his son, and so he should at least be in the loop. I'm presuming that your talk is more centered on the responsibilities of sex, vs the mechanics (which I'm guessing he's figured out quite some time ago...) I'm surprised your kids don't run away! LOL Jewish nuns. OMG ROTFLOL My issues, is I can't figure out a way (even in my twisted mind) to get my brother to talk to my nephew without my nephew knowing I set it up. I dont want my brother to have the same "talk" my father had with us about sex, which was a plain and simple, "You'd better not get any girl pregnant, because I'm not taking care of any damn kids, understand!" I have to play devil's advocate here, sorry. First of all, I don't understand why you didn't answer the door if someone was ringing the bell repeatedly. How is that this chick's fault? And then by the time you opened it, you had major attitude? Maybe she didn't see there was a camera, or wasn't standing right in front of it so you could see. But pulling the curtain aside and seeing someone there and then just ignoring it, that seems rude to me. Sorry, but you know I call it like I see it. It sounds like you were the one with the attitude from the get-go. It's also really not your business to be looking at his phone and seeing how many times she called him. This sounds like it's his business to deal with and if you want him to act like an adult, you need to set an example and act like one as well. If you want him to trust you and talk to you about what's going on, you don't treat his visitors this way and go around looking at his phone behind his back. 17 and 20 is not some huge deal, it's not like she's 40 or something, I think you are completely overreacting. Honestly, I would back off if you want him to come to you. You're free to lay down ground rules about visitors and what's appropriate when he is staying in your home, and that he should instruct his guests on proper visiting etiquette as well, but he is almost 18 and likely wants to be treated like an adult, not someone for you to boss around, or whose visitors you can boss around either. If I were you, I'd leave a box of condoms in a plain bag in his room with a note saying something like, "I know you're old enough and smart enough to make safe choices if you are becoming sexually active, but here's a little reminder just in case. Let me know if there's anything you want to talk about. All I care about is you being safe and protected while enjoying your summer." I didn't answer the door, because I didn't see anyone in the Camera. The camera view the stop and both doors. Many times I've had people come to the house and realize they are at the wrong house. Examples: People are at an address on the wrong side of the street. They are on the West 125 Street instead of East 125 Street or its a delivery guy ring the bell to give you menus or circulars. You wouldn't see the camera they are not built into the exterior of the house. I didn't ignore her, I didn't see her at all. I was in the backyard and the only reason I knew she was there is when she started banging on the window. The only thing I could think is inbetween my walk from the backyard to the console, she moved completely out of camera range. I trust my nephews and Niece. I have no reason to snoop, but since I pay for those phones, I can look at any time I wish and the kids know that upfront. However, when I went into his room the phone and laptop are charging right there and I saw the message pop up, so it wasn't as if I unlocked his phone and started reading messages. It was right on the screen. My nephew and I have a super great relationship since he came into this world, he tells me all his secrets and feelings. He doesnt break rules or stay out and when he is out he's either next door or at Mr. & Mrs. Thing No. 2 house. I know more than either of his parents. Later on that afternoon, he said he wanted to take me to Coney Island and he started with "You know your my favorite tio loco...." I like the idea of the condoms but he told me that he's still a virgin and has no desire to have a child accidently at this point in life and ruin his future. He said high school and college are stressful enough and adding a child is not something he is interested in at all! PERIOD! Yeah, mellow out a bit. I'm not sure what you expected her reaction to be you greet her that way. And assuming it wasn't an innapropriate time of day, I don't see what the issue is with ringing someone's doorbell. That's pretty much how I interacted with any of my friends growing up...go to their house and ring the doorbell. The quickest way for him to revert back into his shell is to maintain the "my way or the highway" style of parenting. Anyway, I was 16 dating an 18 year old (and 18 when she was 20 when we broke up) and that age difference isn't bad at all. It's actually the greatest thing ever if she a little more, um, advanced than the girls in your grade ;) It was 9:40 AM on a Saturday. To early, but I will give her the benefit of the doubt, as I think she was trying to contact my nephew first. They only met, coming from Columbia, (my nephew likes the resturants and stoers on bway) a few days earlier, and walked across the park together, which is why she knew were he lived. She lives further East than we do. I'm totally not the "my way or the highway" person, when it comes to the kids, with the exception of their grades. I know he has a thing for PR girls but if you guys dont think age is that big then I'm cool with that.
July 26, 201014 yr The bell rang twice. Once, with no one there, may be an accident or a circular. Twice means someone you can't see, and I'd go answer the freaking door. I don't blame her for knocking on the window or whatever when you didn't answer the door after 2 rings of the bell, and I just don't believe you were justified in pulling attitude. Sorry, JMO. And you can justify the invasion of privacy any way you want, but that's still what it was. Unless he's given you carte blanche and express verbal permission to look at his phone and/or laptop whenever you choose, you were snooping. It doesn't matter who bought them. JMO but the line about not wanting to "ruin his future" sounds like something you'd say to an adult to get them off your back. I'd get him the condoms anyway. If he doesn't use them now, he will use them soon enough.
July 26, 201014 yr I imagine if he's pulling cute girls just by being in a store, then the kid's got some game. I don't buy the virgin thing, but I don't know him. I'm with RnR. Give him the condoms. I kind of side with MTS on the 'lady caller'. Repeatedly ringing and/or calling like that is the sign of someone that doesn't have a lot of patience, and doesn't have a lot of respect for another person's space. And if you have to tell me that you're 'grown', you're not.
July 26, 201014 yr The bell rang twice. Once, with no one there, may be an accident or a circular. Twice means someone you can't see, and I'd go answer the freaking door. I don't blame her for knocking on the window or whatever when you didn't answer the door after 2 rings of the bell, and I just don't believe you were justified in pulling attitude. Sorry, JMO. And you can justify the invasion of privacy any way you want, but that's still what it was. Unless he's given you carte blanche and express verbal permission to look at his phone and/or laptop whenever you choose, you were snooping. It doesn't matter who bought them. JMO but the line about not wanting to "ruin his future" sounds like something you'd say to an adult to get them off your back. I'd get him the condoms anyway. If he doesn't use them now, he will use them soon enough. I wasn't expecting company. I didn't see anyone. The bell rang once, not several times in rapid succession. If it would have rang, several times in a row, I might have opened it. How is it invasion of privacy when open the bedroom door, walk in and look down at the table, as I approach the bed (because I hear the tone) and see the message on the screen? The little computer table is right next to the bed. I didnt touch the phone, it was just that close and the message was right there on the screen. My oldest nephew is like me, minus the fangs & venom. My nephew is a dork/geek and I believe him as he's never lied to me before, except about borrowing my clothes or acessories. Now if my middle nephew had said that, it would give me reason to pause, as he is just like my brother. I imagine if he's pulling cute girls just by being in a store, then the kid's got some game. I don't buy the virgin thing, but I don't know him. I'm with RnR. Give him the condoms. I kind of side with MTS on the 'lady caller'. Repeatedly ringing and/or calling like that is the sign of someone that doesn't have a lot of patience, and doesn't have a lot of respect for another person's space. And if you have to tell me that you're 'grown', you're not. He's a virgin. over the last two years he's grown 4/5 inches and he works that shy/quiet angle.
July 28, 201014 yr XUMelanie had her baby on July 25th. For those who like details, he is 21.5" long and 8lbs 11ozs. Mother and baby are doing fine. "Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago." - Warren Buffett
July 28, 201014 yr WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! That is wonderful. Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so glad everyone is doing ok.
July 28, 201014 yr XUMelanie had her baby on July 25th. For those who like details, he is 21.5" long and 8lbs 11ozs. Mother and baby are doing fine. Congrats! That is a BIG boy.
July 29, 201014 yr My youngest broke his ankle today. I feel so bad. Our oldest needed a haircut, so she took all the kids to a friends house who cuts hair. The other three were playing, and my wife was with our daughter right by the other ones, while she was getting her haircut. I guess a table somehow fell over (we will never know) right on my sons ankle. Poor guy is only 18 mos old. I feel so bad for him. He is the first one running to the door at night when I get home, and he won't be able to do that today...or for a while. I guess these things happen, but to an 18 month old that doesn't understand, it is just sad.
July 29, 201014 yr My youngest broke his ankle today. I feel so bad. Our oldest needed a haircut, so she took all the kids to a friends house who cuts hair. The other three were playing, and my wife was with our daughter right by the other ones, while she was getting her haircut. I guess a table somehow fell over (we will never know) right on my sons ankle. Poor guy is only 18 mos old. I feel so bad for him. He is the first one running to the door at night when I get home, and he won't be able to do that today...or for a while. I guess these things happen, but to an 18 month old that doesn't understand, it is just sad. I'm sorry to hear that. :'( Hopefully it will heal quickly. Was it a bad break?
July 29, 201014 yr ^I don't know. My wife called me from the hospital to tell me. She knows how mad I get when something happens like that, and I don't find out until I get home. So she was brief and just gave me the heads up. Total bummer for the little guy though.
July 29, 201014 yr OMG that is so, so sad. Poor little guy getting his first break so early, and he won't understand what's holding him up. They do heal quickly and very well so young, so you've got that going for you, but I can imagine it just feels awful. He'll have to go back to crawling to the door :)
July 29, 201014 yr OMG that is so, so sad. Poor little guy getting his first break so early, and he won't understand what's holding him up. They do heal quickly and very well so young, so you've got that going for you, but I can imagine it just feels awful. He'll have to go back to crawling to the door :) Exactly. I am going to feel so bad when he tries to walk, and he can't.
July 29, 201014 yr Yeah, it's going to kill me when we put our kitty down, which will likely happen this year, and he goes to look for her and calls her but she's not there. I hear you, I hear you. The pain and joy that parenthood brings is on such a big scale, isn't it? Maybe this will make you laugh - my 14 mo old son filled up the toilet last night with whole rolls of TP. Four of them.
July 29, 201014 yr Yeah, it's going to kill me when we put our kitty down, which will likely happen this year, and he goes to look for her and calls her but she's not there. I hear you, I hear you. The pain and joy that parenthood brings is on such a big scale, isn't it? Maybe this will make you laugh - my 14 mo old son filled up the toilet last night with whole rolls of TP. Four of them. LMAO!! How did that happen? Do tell!
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